Polar
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Holly macaroni.. How many times have you repeated that you don’t think Ole is the one to get us backMy points against him
1. The pressing, we press like a Sunday league football team, a player jog here another walking there, Bruno running his ass out while Rashford and Martial doing only visual pressing. These pressing patterns is 100% a coaching style, of course the players must do it on the ground, but if a player not obeying the managers instructions then he should be out and the manager is responsible for that.
2. Our defensive form, despite him spending 150m on defenders we are shit, and by shit I mean in regards to how much we invested in the back 4. Why are we poor at the back? he bought 3 players all of the considered to be between the best in their position. It is totally on him and his coaching style.
3. Set pieces and crosses, does he and his staff ever train the players on defending set pieces and crosses? Every fecking corner feels like a penalty. I am more afraid from corners than free kicks on the edge of the box.
4. Mentality , we often go into big games as underdogs, why the feck is this? and even against lesser teams sometimes, This has cost us the CL next stage.
5. Changing the formation too much, style of play, why do we need to change the formation every 2-3 games, today diamond, tomorrow 5 at the back, back to 4231 shifting to 433? I bet it confuses the players too much, it is of course very good to have a team that can adapt to different tactics, but ffs we need to have a style first. We play nothing like a possession football team (Pep), and nothing like high press team (Munich, Liverpool, etc). What is our style?
6.In-Game management, just look at his decision making in PSG home game! It was pure stupidity! I have to give him credit for the times he get it right during the game, but he needs to make more right calls than making stupid ones.
My points with him
1,The squad is much better, he has done a good job in cleaning the squad, all the players he bought I think are good players, even Dan James we could argue is not a total loss cause he did not cost that much.
2.The club's environment, he has done a very good job in removing the toxicity that Jose implanted in the club, it took few months but he did it well.
3. He is a club Legend, There is nothing better than winning titles with a club legend in charge. He is loved by all united fans and hated by our rivals. He is maybe the cause hundreds of millions of supporters started supporting the club after his 99 final goal.
4.The players do believe in him, I think it is not a coincidence every time things gets tough, he come out of it because I feel he gets some fight from the players and that is because he trusted them and made a good working environment.
5,despite the negativity around him he is still in the fight, I like that he has continued his work despite everything going around him, can be tough to hear other managers names being mentioned all the time when it gets tough.
With all the love I have for him as a united legend, I dont think he is the one to get us back to the titles, there are many flaws in him that means we can keep pushing for top 4 but never have the edge to win big things. I did not want him to be permanat manager from the begging, the job is too big for him, it broke Jose and LVG who are bigger managers than him. He earned a chance to stay another year after finishing 3rd (despite the fact it was historically low point for a 3rd). But this year should be the title race as I said in the beginning of the season, he should show a title challenge performance, otherwise if is top 4 fight again that runs to the last game of the season, then no he should go.
Have to admit I agree with many of your points for and against him, but based on many of the same premises we conclude very differently.
What I don’t agree with:
1. “This year should be a title race”. No experts or people with common sense expected us to win the title this season. It’s a bonus as long as we stay in the race. Though everything can happen this season.
2. “Changing the formation too much and style of play”. We definitely see the contours of a style: we play directly and go fast forward when we have the opportunity. I also see some nice pattern regarding combinations and movements in the the attack. We are on right track and show progress in many ways. The defence is unfortunately not one them.
Ole is more pragmatic and adaptable than other managers. That’s also a “style”. Perhaps it’s reinforced by a demanding season (corona). Managers have to rotate and take better care of the players. The level of International football increase constantly and the load on players has increased. Maybe rotations and adaptability is the future of football?
3. “In-game management”. Ole has done some mistakes, but many brilliant things to. In general his in-game management is good and can’t be used against him.
Summarised I think Ole all in all is doing a good job. He should at least stay this season. If I want him to stay also next season depends on the summary or evaluation in May.
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