Maybe they looked but didn't see?
Ole: “maybe something has to give”
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Maybe they looked but didn't see?
His positioning is shit and that constantly destabilises the team at the back.
We haven’t controlled a game since Pogba was reverted back into central midfield. He is too much of a luxury player. Bruno and Pogba should be fighting for the same position.
Oh, you!Steve Bruce could be available soon.
Yeah if I was Ole and wholly analytical I would drop Ronny and play Cavani but no way that’s going to happen. As much as I don’t like McFred I would play them b/c any other combo vs. Liverpool would be suicide. Maybe play 352 against Liverpool b/c my main goad is not too lose that game and then try to get some momentum after that. Otherwise if he loses against Liverpool it’s hard to see how he hangs on.
Needs a change in formation and a couple of big names need to drop to the bench.
I am fine with that too. But if we do insist on playing both, we need to add a midfielder and drop one of the two wingers, or the striker, but I don’t see Ole playing with a false 9.
Surprise surprise
I think Ronny and play together with Bruno. Pogba looks the odd one out b/c he simply doesn’t have the work rate Bruno does.
Drop Ronaldo and return to the free flowing quality we saw last season
We should play Bruno deeper to be able to play the through ball and get Greenwood, Rashy and Ronaldo/Cavani/Sancho running in behind constantly. Bruno plays far to high up the pitch.
Folks are living in cuckoo land if they think he's hinting at handing in his resignation. Nobody is going to let go off a big fat payout, no matter how much they profess to love the club
Given, he has spoken about wanting more legs. He is going to drop Ronaldo for Cavani, or Pogba for Fred, or possibly both.
Given, he has spoken about wanting more legs. He is going to drop Ronaldo for Cavani, or Pogba for Fred, or possibly both.
Please don’t use silly nicknames
this is the funniest part
I don’t think they have a clue
playing magdire was the first sign of cluelessness
Everyone said last season if we use Pogba and Bruno we needed to sign a DM. That was ignored and is the key reason why we are failing so far this season. Frankly I can’t wait for Pogba to leave at the end of this season. Been a terrible signing for £90m.
Worst manager I’ve seen at a top club in my lifetime alongside Solari at Madrid. The latter one stayed for 5 games, which speaks volumes about how United is ran.
Agree with you. I don’t mind antagonising Pogba cuz he will go anyway and he has not worked out here in 4 years.
I think it's more that Ed buys players for resale value and marketing value than for how much they are needed in the squad. So we end up with a joke of a squad that can't play as a team and is very weak in the unglamourous areas like defensive midfield but with too many attacking players we don't actually need - like Ronaldo.
And yet you didn't mention Luke Shaw, who's positioning has been all over the shop. As I said, AWB has been our most consistent player at the back. Stop being silly.
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What? Heard Steve Bruce might become available very soon….
None of those have showed us through the years they are good enough to win titles. It takes time for Varane and Sancho coming to a new league. Maguire was brought by midtable and AWB from team fighting for relegation, hardly players we want trying to win PL.
McFratic incoming.
The biggest change would be having McFred back playing in the centre of midfield. Typical Ole mastermind changes.
none of what we are seeing today is due to transfers
if anything, Woodward stepping up this season exposed Ole
I am confused. So, after the break this game was like 'let's try that shit for one last time'?
They won't.
We need a RB,CB and 2 CMs and maybe a Pogba replacement.
We never ever finish the job in one transfer window like a big club should.
He doesn't know how to change tactics. All he does is change the personnel within his tactic.
It all started by selling Ronaldo and getting Valencia and Owen instead. We haven't played good football since Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo played together.
It's laughable to think that we can make a slight personnel or formation tweak to get the team performing! The words wishful thinking come to mind.
This team is in desperate need of coaching, tactical awareness drills, set pattern of attacking and defending, set piece drills....the list is endless. After 3 years of non-coaching I'm not willing to entertain any ideas that the current coaching/managing structure is up to it. Thanks for the memories, time to move on.
This team is in desperate need of coaching, tactical awareness drills, set pattern of attacking and defending, set piece drills....the list is endless. After 3 years of non-coaching I'm not willing to entertain any ideas that the current coaching/managing structure is up to it. Thanks for the memories, time to move on.
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That logic just won’t work - Grealish played for a mid table team and so did the likes of Van Dyk, Mane, Robertson, etc. Players need to be coached into playing a system and at United we have neither coaches nor a playing system…
Hmmm, they allowed LvG to sell half the squad, including numerous title winners still in their mid 20s, and purchase a ton of players of his own. Most of whom were shit. He bought 10-11 first team players in two summers. Mourinho equally had plenty to spend, Sanchez, Lukaku, Pogba, Matic, Lindelof, Bailly, Mhkitaryan, Fred, Zlatan if you include wages. That's 3 big signings a season, which is more than reasonable. Jose threw a tantrum when the board declined to spend 80m on Maguire, but then he had spent 30m or so on two CBs in each of his previous summer windows, and Maguire is Maguire anyway.
You could perhaps argue Jose got shafted in his 3rd summer, but then he was pushing hard for players post 30 like Perisic, and Sanchez was signed in January before by dipping into the next season's budget...and he spent like 55m on Fred...Ole on the other hand got backed hugely this summer, which was his third, with Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho...its on the manager to be honest...
If Ole had been given an extra, say, 100m to spend over the past 3 seasons, would things be all that much brighter? We'd have another couple players in an already disjointed and bloated squad...
Dropping Ronaldo might be the right thing to do but then…
…You’ve got to ask why you signed him
…You’ve got to manage the squad with Ronaldo and possibly Pogba on the sidelines. I think that’s close to impossible for even the best managers
.…. You’ve got to hope that things haven’t already gone too far bad. How do you bring them back with Ronaldo etc in the background? I don’t think he’ll be able to. You could look at how it spiralled at Cardiff…
I think Ole’s done and the Ronaldo signing has seen to that. Too much of him hoping he can throw Bruno, Pogba and Ronaldo on and it will cover up his lack of management ability. You can only have a couple of players like that, as Ole’s found out. It’s sad watching him mismanage this massive, expensive, and bloated squad. Early on he always said he wanted to cut the squad but then he started collecting and hoarding players.
…You’ve got to ask why you signed him
…You’ve got to manage the squad with Ronaldo and possibly Pogba on the sidelines. I think that’s close to impossible for even the best managers
.…. You’ve got to hope that things haven’t already gone too far bad. How do you bring them back with Ronaldo etc in the background? I don’t think he’ll be able to. You could look at how it spiralled at Cardiff…
I think Ole’s done and the Ronaldo signing has seen to that. Too much of him hoping he can throw Bruno, Pogba and Ronaldo on and it will cover up his lack of management ability. You can only have a couple of players like that, as Ole’s found out. It’s sad watching him mismanage this massive, expensive, and bloated squad. Early on he always said he wanted to cut the squad but then he started collecting and hoarding players.
I think people are misdiagnosing Ronaldo’s lack of involvement for the first 75 minutes as the cause of our problems, when really it is just a symptom., You would write off all of our forwards virtually every match right now. Cavani was the same against Everton, barely getting a sniff besides a first half header. Everyone recognises him as a high workrate workhorse.
We saw in the last 15 minutes once Rashford and Lingard came on, and the team had a better balance, that it was Ronaldo who was the biggest threat in the final third. He was the man who looked like scoring late on.
Ole, or whoever the manager is, has got to get the balance and cohesion of the team right. Currently we have a big disconnect between our front three who are entirely attack minded, Bruno just going berserk in midfield, and a back six who are given no support from the forwards, naturally getting overrun. There’s no team there right now and every single player looks half the player that they should be, aside from those individual moments.
Love watching people just shit on Ronaldo like it's his fault. Midfield constantly gets overrun but hey let's blame the CF. Can't wait till cavani is up there and then the blame is the lack of service. Bruno continually just roams about to his pleasure but hey let's ignore the fact that he needs to help link things up better
Oh that's good. In that case we just need to play Rice and Niguez on Wednesday. Problem solved.
He's winging it. Nobody who has this long in the job should have the gall to say he now needs to rethink things. FFS Ole.
You can't be serious. You think our manager has no say in our transfers?
Hopefully but I doubt it.
Embarrassing he can say something like this after the international break. Like you'd think if they actually did their jobs they'd already make those changes.
He's just saying this to buy more time to learn wheat he was hired to do. Hope no one falls for it
He's just saying this to buy more time to learn wheat he was hired to do. Hope no one falls for it
Maguire has been poor this season let's drop him too. Besides you realize than AWBs replacement is DALOT?
Exactly spot on. No idea why people seem to think Ronaldo is above needing service.