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could also be set to do nothing
Free umbrellas or plastic ponchos.Some paint on the walls and a new tarpaulin over the holes in the roof
The current stadium bears no relationship to the one I used to go to aside from the location, IMO it's been redeveloped as much as it realistically can be, a new stadium can incorprate some of the old features, you name the slopes and the dugouts, both are relatively new additions and the slopes ae downright dangerousWouldnt want to build a new stadium. The history and soul of Old Trafford is what makes us and the stadium special. The slopes, the dugout, everything.
Build over the railline and renovate the roof and the inside of it somehow. Build on history, dont replace it. And it houses a big capacity already. Replacing it with a brand new one about the same size would be soulless and generic for me.
Duct Tape FC? Unfortunately, there will come a day when even the name Manchester United means nothing to up and coming players.Some paint on the walls and a new tarpaulin over the holes in the roof
+ 1There's hardly anything left of the stadium that I knew as a lad.
The real Stretford End has gone, the real Scoreboard End has gone, the South Stand is on its 3rd or 4th roof.
Seating is cramped and uncomfortable and the overall impression isn't something you can take pride in anymore.
A brand new stadium could be designed to incorporate traditional OT themes...whatever they are.
I'm all in favour of a clean sheet of paper, than some botch upgrade job.
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The current stadium bears no relationship to the one I used to go to aside from the location, IMO it's been redeveloped as much as it realistically can be, a new stadium can incorprate some of the old features, you name the slopes and the dugouts, both are relatively new additions and the slopes ae downright dangerous
The current stadium bears no relationship to the one I used to go to aside from the location, IMO it's been redeveloped as much as it realistically can be, a new stadium can incorprate some of the old features, you name the slopes and the dugouts, both are relatively new additions and the slopes ae downright dangerous
When you see what Real has just did to the Berneabeu, it highlights that just about anything is possible.
When you see what Real has just did to the Berneabeu, it highlights that just about anything is possible.
What's the story with that? Have they increased the capacity or just put a new roof on?
Nou camp capacity being increased as well?
Not a snowballs chance in hell are the current owners, going to spent money on a new/refurbished stadium, if anything it was a simple tart up and thats it !
There's hardly anything left of the stadium that I knew as a lad.
The real Stretford End has gone, the real Scoreboard End has gone, the South Stand is on its 3rd or 4th roof.
Seating is cramped and uncomfortable and the overall impression isn't something you can take pride in anymore.
A brand new stadium could be designed to incorporate traditional OT themes...whatever they are.
I'm all in favour of a clean sheet of paper, than some botch upgrade job.
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Almost anything. You cant build soul or memories, at least instantly. They attach to the place you experienced them over many years. You connect your memories to a certain thing, a place, etc. Memories in a new Old Trafford will surely take many years to build/grow if you build a new from scratch.
Yeah, I don't get the argument of ''It's almost a completely different stadium than when I was a boy''.
Yes it is but that didn't happen overnight or even in one go. The stadium has been constantly growing and evolving with the club and the fans for over a century at this stage. It is the same stadium because it's never been completely demolished and rebuilt. All that history for me would be lost with a new stadium, Real have shown that there's absolutely no reason stadiums can't be renovated and upgraded into a modern stadium.
Wouldnt want to build a new stadium. The history and soul of Old Trafford is what makes us and the stadium special. The slopes, the dugout, everything.
Build over the railline and renovate the roof and the inside of it somehow. Build on history, dont replace it. And it houses a big capacity already. Replacing it with a brand new one about the same size would be soulless and generic for me.
I wonder how many people will get thisOld Trafford is like Triggers brush out of Fools and Horses.
So you don't consider the period of the 70's and 80's to be worthy of memories, presumably because you weren't around in those days, there are a lot on this forum who were though, the soul of United is used a lot, what is it that, to some people it will be the class of 92, to some it'll be the 1999 team of the SAF years, to me it's the Busby Babes, none of those are wrong, different people have different answers, usually based on how old they areWhat do you mean? Old Trafford’s looked the same for about all the time we’ve had good memories/success. Do you mean that it doesnt look like it did in the 70s/80s or? The slopes arent new, the dugouts arent that new either?
More than the people who can tell you who Colin Ball isI wonder how many people will get this
Ineos are borrowing to pay the glazers for their shares.
They won't borrow another 2 billion to improve the stadium as well, especially when owning just 25% of the club.
And the glazers will never fund it themsleves.
Whoever utdplug is, they are talking balls.
I wonder how many people will get this
A stadium renovation is not going to cost £2bn. That's at the top end of estimates for a 90k new build, which we are definitely not going to get. It'll be a quarter of that for an increase in capacity via a redeveloped south stand and upgrades to the stadium's skin and concourses (Real Madrid's Bernabéu redevelopment cost £494m).
A stadium renovation is not going to cost £2bn. That's at the top end of estimates for a 90k new build, which we are definitely not going to get. It'll be a quarter of that for an increase in capacity via a redeveloped south stand and upgrades to the stadium's skin and concourses (Real Madrid's Bernabéu redevelopment cost £494m).
All the stands need sorting really and seats spaced out more. Which would mean a reduction in capacity without some major redesign.
Also, the Bernabau re-devolment is running at nearly twice that cost. The final cost won't be far off what Spurs paid for their new stadium.
Real's cost near a billion despite Perez's connections. Camp Nou is costing Barcelona 1.2b.
You are quite right - costs have spiralled on Real Madrid's project (delays and raw material prices) since the figures I looked up were published in the summer. That being said, there's no way that the Glazers/Ineos are ever going to spend £2bn on Old Trafford.