Acrobat7
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https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bundesliga/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/L1/saison_id/2022/plus/1Those figures were based on the 21/22 season and I don't follow German football so I couldn't tell you.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bundesliga/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/L1/saison_id/2022/plus/1Those figures were based on the 21/22 season and I don't follow German football so I couldn't tell you.
Anything that isn't the usual copy-paste bowl would be a great start. There's some more interesting designs of newer grounds in American football, such as this one I mentioned early on in thread:
I love the industrial look of it, and that massive window makes it seem like a sporting cathedral on the inside. Would be open to anything that's a touch outside the box and fits the character of the city a bit more than variant #183 of "shiny and round".
Weird thing is though.
OT was the original bowl that everything else was copy/pasted from.
It was a bowl to begin with
It was a bowl in the heyday of Busby
And then when fully redeveloped you can follow the line from OT in 1994 to every identikit bowl that followed afterwards
If the new ground was any other shape it wouldn't feel very OT like.
There's probably a bit more thought put into the design of £1-2B stadiums these days then there was back in the day though. Plus OT hasn't looked like a flat bowl for almost 3 decades, it might not be the most aesthetically pleasing stadium in Europe but it's pretty unique and recognisable at this stage.
There's probably a bit more thought put into the design of £1-2B stadiums these days then there was back in the day though. Plus OT hasn't looked like a flat bowl for almost 3 decades, it might not be the most aesthetically pleasing stadium in Europe but it's pretty unique and recognisable at this stage.
Of course there is more thought put into designing stadiums these days, but I'm saying if for example, we just copy/pasted the Colts design, whilst very architecturally pleasing in itself, it wouldn't feel like a new Old Trafford. Certainly aspects of the outside of it could be something we look at because it's similar to the warehouse/mills/etc of Manchester and the surrounding area but inside we'd have to be quite specific.
For me, at least the bottom tier has to be a bowl shape in any new ground. Hopefully they'd have a massive one tier stand behind the goal that we call the Stretty still because that's what football grounds are going for these days and it can be done whilst the rest of the ground takes any shape that it does but generally, Old Trafford has to be a bowl of some variety, enclosed wrap around corners and all the rest, to keep a tie to the way the current ground looks. I think that would help to allay some of the fears of those that want to keep the current ground.
It's just what sparks in my head when someone mentions 'a soulless bowl' because Old Trafford pioneered that very design.
I love how it looked in the 80s.
Of course there is more thought put into designing stadiums these days, but I'm saying if for example, we just copy/pasted the Colts design, whilst very architecturally pleasing in itself, it wouldn't feel like a new Old Trafford. Certainly aspects of the outside of it could be something we look at because it's similar to the warehouse/mills/etc of Manchester and the surrounding area but inside we'd have to be quite specific.
For me, at least the bottom tier has to be a bowl shape in any new ground. Hopefully they'd have a massive one tier stand behind the goal that we call the Stretty still because that's what football grounds are going for these days and it can be done whilst the rest of the ground takes any shape that it does but generally, Old Trafford has to be a bowl of some variety, enclosed wrap around corners and all the rest, to keep a tie to the way the current ground looks. I think that would help to allay some of the fears of those that want to keep the current ground.
It's just what sparks in my head when someone mentions 'a soulless bowl' because Old Trafford pioneered that very design.
Knock it down.
Start again.
Old Trafford is in really poor shape in a lot of areas. I don't think many people realise just how bad it is.
I'm in the new Stadium camp as long as the name is kept in some capacity.
How would you feel if they called it New Trafford?
Because some folks don't understand why it's called Old Trafford currently!Why would they call it New Trafford?
Knock it down.
Start again.
Knock it down.
Start again.
Don't you knock your house down and start again every time there's a blocked drain?Why, because of a blocked drain?
What about the wheat? Where does that come into it?!Separates the weak from the chaff imo.
How would you feel if they called it New Trafford?
Knock it down.
Start again.
Old Trafford is in really poor shape in a lot of areas. I don't think many people realise just how bad it is.
I'm in the new Stadium camp as long as the name is kept in some capacity.
If you build a new stadium you can't really call it Old Trafford can you?
Even spurs changes the name of their stadium.
I knock next door down and ask them to sort the drains out.Don't you knock your house down and start again every time there's a blocked drain?
A piss soaked curtain, no less.When you look behind the curtain at OT it really is getting rough.
Totally irrelevant. Old Trafford is the area it's situated in.
Hell of a false equivalence.Don't you knock your house down and start again every time there's a blocked drain?
Agreed. Find it odd that people think that's all it needs. It makes way more sense to build a new stadium next to OT and start anew. I love Spurs new stadium. Not a generic bowl. Has character while looking and being ultra modern. Not saying that's what we should be looking for. But the bar should be set that high and fans deserve the best. Not a piss filled jacks and leaky roofs.So many of you seem oddly into this.
Don't know how many self proclaimed biggest club in the world are routinely embarrassed like this regarding it's facilities. Some of you seem very content with a lick of paint.
I won't kink shame you though.
I'm not soft enough that a blocked pipe at OT makes me embarrassed to support the club. Who is saying they'd be content with a lick of paint? The debate is quite obviously about vast renovation vs. complete rebuild.So many of you seem oddly into this.
Don't know how many self proclaimed biggest club in the world are routinely embarrassed like this regarding it's facilities. Some of you seem very content with a lick of paint.
I won't kink shame you though.
Nobody thinks that's all it needs (unless I've missed it).Agreed. Find it odd that people think that's all it needs. It makes way more sense to build a new stadium next to OT and start anew. I love Spurs new stadium. Not a generic bowl. Has character while looking and being ultra modern. Not saying that's what we should be looking for. But the bar should be set that high and fans deserve the best. Not a piss filled jacks and leaky roofs.
I wouldn’t lick it mate, it’s covered in pissI'm not soft enough that a blocked pipe at OT makes me embarrassed to support the club. Who is saying they'd be content with a lick of paint? The debate is quite obviously about vast renovation vs. complete rebuild.
Old Trafford - The theatre of LatrinesA piss soaked curtain, no less.
Old Trafford - The theatre of Latrines
What's really soft is not letting go.I'm not soft enough that a blocked pipe at OT makes me embarrassed to support the club. Who is saying they'd be content with a lick of paint? The debate is quite obviously about vast renovation vs. complete rebuild.
There's a Game of Thrones joke in here.