Official: Karim Benzema leaves Real Madrid

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What a signing he was for Real,gutted we couldn’t get him from Lyon that time.

If we weren't hampered by that massive £70m or so debt interest repayment per year for the PIKs the Glazers had to make around 2009.. theoretially we could have been the 3 Peat challenging team. We had the base.. add the likes of Benzema, Modric, Hazard.. what could have been. What City do now by adding a Grealish or a Halland each summer is what we should've been doing back then.

Instead we let the team decay and every year we need about 5 players.
 
Maybe. Their CL dominance is likely over and they've won 2 titles in 10 years.
Real Madrid have won 3 league titles in the last 10 years (2017, 2020, 2022) as well as two domestic cups (2014, 2023). So that would be a domestic title every two years.
 
Wanted him from Lyon that year. 14 years at Real Madrid. I wonder where he ranks in their all time list
 
Any interest for 2 seasons with a young striker being bought as well?
 
Wanted him from Lyon that year. 14 years at Real Madrid. I wonder where he ranks in their all time list
That's a great question. Really only people from the last 10 years and the 1950s team can realistically be ahead of him and a handful at that. There are guys who played for Madrid during other periods who are better players (Zidane, R9 etc) but they're not greater Real Madrid players.
 
Wanted him from Lyon that year. 14 years at Real Madrid. I wonder where he ranks in their all time list

Benzema is 5th in appearance, 1st in assists and second in goals. I would say that he is easily top 10, personally I would have him higher than Zidane.
 
Interesting move for him and one made with head and heart methinks. He can obviously still do it at the highest level but the cash probably very attractive and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen pictures of him in Mecca for the various Islamic festivals and religious dates. So this could be something of a spiritual homecoming for him too possibly.
 
Saudi league incoming? Maybe back to France. Or Is it the mls?
 
Real Madrid have won 3 league titles in the last 10 years (2017, 2020, 2022) as well as two domestic cups (2014, 2023). So that would be a domestic title every two years.

Something is lost in translation here, by title a lot of people generally mean the league title. Kane wouldn't be justified in moving for a domestic cup - but yes the correction is 3 titles in 10 years, which doesnt guarantee that kane would win one in his spell there.
 
Thats more to do with the quality of football being absolutely dogshit, no one wants to waste their time on an unwatchable game of football, it doesn't mean the middle east doesn't love football.

That's a poor excuse.

The quality of games in Argentina is dogshit, and argentinians are still packing their stadiums.

Just because the quality of the game is poor doesn't mean you give up supporting your local club and don't attend games anymore.
 
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Benzema is 5th in appearance, 1st in assists and second in goals. I would say that he is easily top 10, personally I would have him higher than Zidane.

When it comes to Real Madrid career he definitely ahead of all the 2000s guys.

He is only behind Cristiano, Ramos, and the 50s legends.
 
Absolutely wild that they signed him and Ronaldo the same summer.

It was Ronaldo, Kaka, Xabi Alonso and Benzema that summer wasn't it?

As far as single transfer windows go that is the stuff of legend. We all now how Ronaldo and Benzema went. Alonso was quite good for them in his time there and he was really good when they won the 10th CL. Kaka was hampered by injuries but a player of his quality you would never say no to in the hopes that they can get over those issues.
 
That's a poor excuse.

The quality of games in Argentina is dogshit, and argentinians are still packing their stadiums.
The Argentenian league is much better than any league in the Middle East, obviously you don't get how things work over there, maybe you should try watching a Syrian league game to fully get it, unless you like to say shit in total ignorance.
 
Another huge star selling his soul to become a sportswashing tool for the Saudi regime. Feck right off!
 
Another huge star selling his soul to become a sportswashing tool for the Saudi regime. Feck right off!

Talking about sportwashing for the Saudi regime makes no sense. They are allies and close partners to nearly every leading nations and in particular the US. They have nothing to wash.
 
Talking about sportwashing for the Saudi regime makes no sense. They are allies and close partners to nearly every leading nations and in particular the US. They have nothing to wash.
Being a strategic partner has no bearing on the average Joe perception of them. They do have a huge image problem, especially after Khashoggi
 
Being a strategic partner has no bearing on the average Joe perception of them. They do have a huge image problem, especially after Khashoggi

And the average joe perception of them is not as important as the average joe thinks. What we are seeing isn't sportwashing, it's a continuation of the "competition" between gulf nations, an ego-trip.
 
And the average joe perception of them is not as important as the average joe thinks. What we are seeing isn't sportwashing, it's a continuation of the "competition" between gulf nations, an ego-trip.
Partly what you say is true, they do compete with the other nations. But a significant piece of that competion is their popularity among the western people, being attractive to visit etc, where UAE is clearly winning. And that of course is also fundamental for a long term strategy for going past fossil fuels.
 
Talking about sportwashing for the Saudi regime makes no sense. They are allies and close partners to nearly every leading nations and in particular the US. They have nothing to wash.
Really? The fact that they are important business-partners and allies with USA and other countries in the west (is also problematic, allthough strategically and economically important) has nothing to do with this. It is still very problematic. They are by far the worst dictatorship of the rich arabic absolute monarchies. Much worse than the Emirates and Qatar. If you don't think signing Ronaldo's or Benzema's to the Saudi Pro league with individual wages the exceeds the actual clubs total revenues by multiple x serves purposes outside of football, well, then...They still chop people's heads off by sword for speaking up against the regime, for blasphemi, for being non-hetero and for minor crimes. They are in the bottom 15% on the individual freedom index. It's very problematic and these stars knowingly saying yes to become posterboys for this regime for cash is a disgrace.
 
Unfortunately the stars aligned at the right time for City. Had they got Kane before they wouldn't have got him and had Benzema left last season, Madrid would have been in for him.

Of course Madrid were in for Haaland, Benzema was 34. Fact is, no club can compete with the money (on and off the table) that City can offer.

It had nothing to do with stars aligning, it’s all simple really, and it’s the same reason Agüero, KdB, Silva etc never left the club even in their primes, City pay more than anyone in the history of the game.
Haaland was always going there from the very second Raiola sorted that cheeky as feck Dortmund release fee so that they could all make absolutely insane money from City after two years.
 
Really? The fact that they are important business-partners and allies with USA and other countries in the west (is also problematic, allthough strategically and economically important) has nothing to do with this. It is still very problematic. They are by far the worst dictatorship of the rich arabic absolute monarchies. Much worse than the Emirates and Qatar. If you don't think signing Ronaldo's or Benzema's to the Saudi Pro league with individual wages the exceeds the actual clubs total revenues by multiple x serves purposes outside of football, well, then...They still chop people's heads off by sword for speaking up against the regime, for blasphemi, for being non-hetero and for minor crimes. They are in the bottom 15% on the individual freedom index. It's very problematic and these stars knowingly saying yes to become posterboys for this regime for cash is a disgrace.

Sportwashing means that their action has for goal to deflect from something. I don't think that SA are attempting to deflect from anything or that they care about our opinion on anything. It's not becasue you have legitimate reasons to dislike someone that their actions are meant to change your view.
 
Interesting move for him and one made with head and heart methinks. He can obviously still do it at the highest level but the cash probably very attractive and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen pictures of him in Mecca for the various Islamic festivals and religious dates. So this could be something of a spiritual homecoming for him too possibly.

Yeah, if I was being offered 600m quid over 3 years, I'd be feeling very spiritual too.
 
Can't it be both things? Absolutely there is an ego thing behind signing the biggest names in football, at the same time it's hard to believe that such an extensive and broad campaign of investing in sports and media is done with absolutely zero geopolitical motives. It's become a thing on here recently that people refuse to believe that sportswashing takes place - I find that rather odd. It's literally just about improving a state's global reputation. Fairly obvious and basic stuff.
 
Can't it be both things? Absolutely there is an ego thing behind signing the biggest names in football, at the same time it's hard to believe that such an extensive and broad campaign of investing in sports and media is done with absolutely zero geopolitical motives. It's become a thing on here recently that people refuse to believe that sportswashing takes place - I find that rather odd. It's literally just about improving a state's global reputation. Fairly obvious and basic stuff.

It does take place but the term is overused, as an example Energy and mining companies do it all the time though many people refuse to call it that way. But it's a bit strange to use it when the core point of sportwashing doesn't apply which is the deflection from an other action part.

People can definitely use the term sportwashing but it's a bit strange to jump to that term when it's very obvious that if there is any sportwashing it would be far from the main reason and more of a possible side effect.
 
So that would be 4 millions per week, or 16 millions per month. Just a bit more than average Joe made.

Can we tempt him with our "history" and "instagram followers" ??

Crucially, its tax free. Its a hell of an income.
 
Being a strategic partner has no bearing on the average Joe perception of them. They do have a huge image problem, especially after Khashoggi

The saudi royal family don't give a crap about what the average joe with average salary think about them.
All they care is what CEOs of big companies, presidents and prime ministers of countries think about them, so they keep doing business.

And an average salary man can't go to Dubai or Riyahd for vacations, that's mostly reserved for celebrities, models, and wealthy instagram influencers, and none of that kind of people give an actual crap about decapitations, women can't drive, executions, etc
 
The saudi royal family don't give a crap about what the average joe with average salary think about them.
All they care is what CEOs of big companies, presidents and prime ministers of countries think about them, so they keep doing business.

And an average salary man can't go to Dubai or Riyahd for vacations, that's mostly reserved for celebrities, models, and wealthy instagram influencers, and none of that kind of people give an actual crap about decapitations, women can't drive, executions, etc
That's not true. Middle class people can and go to Dubai, you don't need to stay at Bruj Khalifa. Also, the rest of what you say is also not correct. Any person that needs to maintain a public image (models, influences, etc) absolutely cares what the average people who are their followers, think.
 
If your are french it depends on your fiscal residency when the US apparently tax based on citizenship.

So Benz doesn't pay any tax then? That's insane.

The US expats pay their resident tax. Then if it's less than the US tax liability (Federal only), they then pay to US the difference. Max is 37% for the rich, but then they usually play with their accountings.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/writ...-income-tax-rate-on-the-wealthiest-americans/
We estimate the average Federal individual income tax rate paid by America’s 400 wealthiest families, ...
In our primary analysis, we estimate an average Federal individual income tax rate of 8.2 percent for the period 2010-2018.
 
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