Occasions where the clueless fans were spectacularly right
- Thread starter Oscar Bonavena
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The whole 'vibes' thing is just rubbish that's trotted out on here. You enjoyed it because we played good counter attacking football under him and scored goals.
Ultimately, his limitations really showed when we really struggled against teams that would defend deep and hit us on the counter (beat us at our own game), he never found a solution. We never really got better at that at any point after he left neither.
Ten Hag, I knew he was going to struggle pretty early on.
Managers that don't adapt adequately in game (whether that's to what the other team is doing, what their own players are doing, the momentum within the game) generally don't and shouldn't last long.
It's all well and good having a style and an idea of the type of players you want to play. Even your pre-match plan can be great, but When it's not working on the pitch, you need to react, and the sooner the better.
Managers that don't adapt adequately in game (whether that's to what the other team is doing, what their own players are doing, the momentum within the game) generally don't and shouldn't last long.
It's all well and good having a style and an idea of the type of players you want to play. Even your pre-match plan can be great, but When it's not working on the pitch, you need to react, and the sooner the better.
He came in and cleared out the toxic stink of Mourinho's reign. And that helped create a positive atmosphere that led to winning plenty of football matches. He had momentum for quite a while. Unfortunately once he became permanent manager the momentum had stopped and he never really got it started again. Its different than coming into a losing team promising something different. It was his team, and his players he'd brought in that he couldnt get to rise to the occasion and he couldnt get them going again.
Might end with egg on my face but Huuuuben trying out Rashford as the number 9 - it’s not going to work out, you bearded hunk of a man.
I believe without all the injuries, Mount would have been a key player. Let’s hope he can move on from the injuries now. One thing is certain imo, I think Mount will thrive under Amorim and his style of play.
SO MANY things...
* Pereira was never good enough for United but Ole still played him regularly
* Ole should never have been hired
* Ole should have been fired at least one month earlier
* Ole never playing Gomes and letting him go on a free
* Ole and United wanted Lingard in the squad instead of selling him for a big fee after the West Ham loan
* Ten Hag should have been sacked one year earlier
* Ten Hag played Forson before Amad. Enough said
* Ten Hag not using Fernandez and selling him (worst talent id manager in United history)
* Ten Hag benching Amad in general
* Buying Antony and Telles (the rest of the signings at least did make sense in some way)
Of course, there is a lot more there...
* Pereira was never good enough for United but Ole still played him regularly
* Ole should never have been hired
* Ole should have been fired at least one month earlier
* Ole never playing Gomes and letting him go on a free
* Ole and United wanted Lingard in the squad instead of selling him for a big fee after the West Ham loan
* Ten Hag should have been sacked one year earlier
* Ten Hag played Forson before Amad. Enough said
* Ten Hag not using Fernandez and selling him (worst talent id manager in United history)
* Ten Hag benching Amad in general
* Buying Antony and Telles (the rest of the signings at least did make sense in some way)
Of course, there is a lot more there...
I agree with most points here. Gomes was not remotely good enough at that point, though. Everything else is spot on.
Yeah, maybe so, but IMO, he played less talented players instead, which resulted in Gomes leaving. I think United and Ole should have done more there, but I get your point.
Ten Hag and his midfield insanity.
When the entire fanbase can point out why a set up can't and won't work and yet the manager tries it for 50 games producing possibly the most structurally and irrationally inept football that I can recall seeing from a professional outfit.
Bruno/Mount and Cas in a cavern of space, with a slow defensive unit behind them. An experienced manager with a working brain was convinced this was the way forward. Still hard to believe he thought this way and the club denied reality for so long.
When the entire fanbase can point out why a set up can't and won't work and yet the manager tries it for 50 games producing possibly the most structurally and irrationally inept football that I can recall seeing from a professional outfit.
Bruno/Mount and Cas in a cavern of space, with a slow defensive unit behind them. An experienced manager with a working brain was convinced this was the way forward. Still hard to believe he thought this way and the club denied reality for so long.
Like Mount a lot as a player, but I see much more obvious/natural/promising routes into our regular starting eleven for him under Amorim's set-up than ETH's, despite him having been notionally signed for that ETH set-up.
Which suggests to me that the club/manager's vision of what the team most needed (or how the team would function) at the point we signed Mount was fundamentally askew.