watching some videos on social media. This won't be settling down any time soon.
Northern Ireland Thread
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They’re being egged on by their parents and local figures, words have caused this in the first place. It’s time they did something to stop it.
Where does this end?
They have caused it yes absolutely but now it's started I don't think anything they say will stop it because nobody is listening now.
Not when marching season starts up again it will only get worse then, I just fear some head ball pulls out a gun and fires into a crowd.
Probably when the covid restrictions are reduced and they all can go to pubs and nightclubs instead.
Another country where two or more sets of ideas and beliefs cause conflict amongst it's own people. Ah the human race what a messed up process of evolution.
Arlene Foster has to be one of the worst politicians on this island and that is saying a lot. She has absolutely no fecking backbone at all.
With the cops locking these drug pushing thugs up
This is exactly whats going on, whilst Arlene and the DUP rattle on about Bobby Storey and the NI Protocol
I'm not suggesting it.
Both sides are now out fighting each other.
I'm not sure where you are going with these questions.
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Yeah its all about the SE Antrim UDA and the impact the customs checks are having on their drugs trade. Everything else is just a distraction - this is why they are orchestrating the people onto the streets.
Anyone see the video on the news of the boy setting his head on fire?
I doubt he wasn’t such a big man this morning.
fecking eejit.
Can I ask why you think this?
I think the SE Antrim UDA (not the UDA at all, basically its the Carrick mob ) are using peoples built up frustration with everything that's going on and using it for their own agenda yes, but a lot of that frustration with in the Unionist community is very real, without this frustration none of this would be happening. I was in the local shop the other day and heard 2 middle aged woman talking basically saying they in kind agreed with what was going on.
Do you think the reason you’d be rioting for 5 days, injuring 50 police and causing 100’s of thousands of pounds worth of damage is because of a funeral?
Loyalists see the writing is on the wall for an United Ireland and are lashing out because their own leadership has let them down. This has got nothing to do with anyone else, solely at the blame of the DUP.
I agree with this post its a combination of a lot of things, you think a mass parade for a convicted IRA man, during a lock down for a global pandemic, with the leadership of a governing party in attendance while basically privately hiring a public crematorium and graveyard was a good idea and acceptable? All while said governing party was telling every one else to stay home or face fines, its fecking laughable and could only happen here
, an incredibly inflammatory thing to do. All this along with the centenary of Northern Ireland has just heated the situation. Also I hope your not implying I was rioting, my Rangers scarf was in the was guv, honest.
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It definitely didn’t help matters and I myself think Michelle O’Neill should have given a proper apology as she was Deputy first minister but for the carnage caused the last 5 nights there’s a lot of other elements of involved Irish Sea Border, the Protocol, an United Ireland and just plain bigotry.I agree with this post its a combination of a lot of things, you think a mass parade for a convicted IRA man, during a lock down for a global pandemic, with the leadership of a governing party in attendance while basically privately hiring a public crematorium and graveyard was a good idea and acceptable? All while said governing party was telling every one else to stay home or face fines, its fecking laughable and could only happen here
Also I hope your not implying I was rioting, my Rangers scarf was in the was guv, honest.
You never know with you’s Protestants hi, I’ll be looking out for a Harry Kane Tottenham top on the news tonight
It definitely didn’t help matters and I myself think Michelle O’Neill should have given a proper apology as she was Deputy first minister but for the carnage caused the last 5 nights there’s a lot of other elements of involved Irish Sea Border, the Protocol, an United Ireland and just plain bigotry.
You never know with you’s Protestants hi, I’ll be looking out for a Harry Kane Tottenham top on the news tonight
I actually do have a Rangers scarf somewhere from my teenage years, no idea where it is.I think Michelle and other SF members choose their words very well, not quite apologising for attending and certainly not saying they wouldn't do it again, it was more a "sorry we hurt your feelings" which didn't go un noticed. There should have been fines handed out art the very least, I don't think anyone was expecting a case to be brought.
Maybe should have been fines given but it would have only opened a can of worms with the Hugh Hill funeral and the Rangers celebrations, it was the PPS that decided not the police so I don’t know why all the violence has been aimed towards them.
I think Michelle and other SF members choose their words very well, not quite apologising for attending and certainly not saying they wouldn't do it again, it was more a "sorry we hurt your feelings" which didn't go un noticed. There should have been fines handed out art the very least, I don't think anyone was expecting a case to be brought.
I can’t believe we have people saying they understand why someone would be frustrated enough about a funeral to start throwing petrol bombs over it. Government officials attending events they shouldn’t during the pandemic has happened basically everywhere. It was a mini “scandal” each time too. It hasn’t been used as justification for severe violence anywhere else.
Agreed.
Almost anything can and has been be used as justification for a riot in Northern Ireland though.
Look the wrong way at someone in NI and it’s enough
Its scumbags being scumbags they don't need an excuse no matter how many times the politicians here try to give them one
Worst thing is, the funeral was apparently well marshalled. It followed the protocol that the PSNI thought were in place in terms of the actual funeral itself. (feck knows at this stage)
Its justification to militarise the vote before the next election under the fear of a nationalist first minister. Its about time these fake reasons arent given airtime. The likes of Nolan needs to feck off back at this stage
feck the little thugs I feel sorry for the people that have to live close to those interfaces. Imagine your grandparents looking on at that with everything they've had to live through. They'd be scared out of their wits.
Get the rubber bullets out, see how far these little fecks are willing to take this.
Get the rubber bullets out, see how far these little fecks are willing to take this.
I'm guessing this is aimed at me, I don't think anything justifies the violence we are seeing and I am not saying its just because of the funeral, as has been said its been coming since Brexit vote, Boris' public statements, the DUP making a mess as the DUP do and the border issues.
Apologies if already posted
Escalating things will not help. At all.
Borris really is something else, have a listen.
A mob of rioters are petrol bombing police. It has already escalated. Water canons at least.
Honestly blows my mind that Israel/Palestine/Anti-Semitism gets more media light shone on it than Ireland.
Anyone that’s ever tempted to be the dog that chases the car labelled Labour/Anti-Semitism would do well to watch even a 30 minute video on the Good Friday Agreement and the years before/after it.
This shit really matters. I’m not suggesting racism or oppression at any level should be ignored, but proximity matters. It’s a little selfish to frame it this way, but in my lifetime there were bombs that killed people within my wider social circle. Admittedly not close, but close enough for me to see people cry.
I don’t have a dog in the fight. I’m not going to suggest I know what’s best, nor how it should be resolved. But this should be above Covid on front pages and news broadcasts. Instead we have the noise over Kier Starmer having the temerity to suggest our armed forces shouldn’t buy shit from overseas, and Raab talking about Myanmar.
Anyone that’s ever tempted to be the dog that chases the car labelled Labour/Anti-Semitism would do well to watch even a 30 minute video on the Good Friday Agreement and the years before/after it.
This shit really matters. I’m not suggesting racism or oppression at any level should be ignored, but proximity matters. It’s a little selfish to frame it this way, but in my lifetime there were bombs that killed people within my wider social circle. Admittedly not close, but close enough for me to see people cry.
I don’t have a dog in the fight. I’m not going to suggest I know what’s best, nor how it should be resolved. But this should be above Covid on front pages and news broadcasts. Instead we have the noise over Kier Starmer having the temerity to suggest our armed forces shouldn’t buy shit from overseas, and Raab talking about Myanmar.
The BBC definitely need to reign him in, I used to like his show years ago but he's just winding people up at this stage to chase ratings.
I don’t know the answers man. But you suggested bullets. It wouldn’t help.
I can’t speak for the efficacy of water cannons, though it’s interesting that they’re banned UK wide, aside from
NI.
Id say that's exactly what the people organising this want, firing rubber bullets at 13/14 yos will only give this more support.
Going in heavy handed just plays into a narrative they are already exploiting.
Thing is these dickheads don't even know what they are mad about, they are just mad cause someone told them "themmins" are fecking us over. Sinn Fein had zero say in Brexit, they don't even attend Westminster, the buck stops with the DUP who gleefully shot down the backstop that would have prevented a solid 90% of the issues we're having right now, in their 10 minutes of actual fecking relevance in a global UK scale.
The problem with a lot of NI is downplaying and turning a blind eye to your "own side" and over stating the other. Since the GFA there's been this perceived "don't rock the boat" attitude, they need to just start arresting people when crimes are commited regardless of who it is.
Police will not be fighting back or firing rubber bullets at loyalists not in a million years
Once nationaliss get fired up and start rioting in greater force than present which is happening them the police move in to gear .
This is the same thing which happens over and over and no doubt still really escalate as we get into marchng season .
When you are allowed and encouraged to express hatred in this fashion then this is what happens
It's similar to Trump's supporters in US eventually you end up with what happened in Capital Hill because there is no consequences and they are encouraged to do this
Once nationaliss get fired up and start rioting in greater force than present which is happening them the police move in to gear .
This is the same thing which happens over and over and no doubt still really escalate as we get into marchng season .
When you are allowed and encouraged to express hatred in this fashion then this is what happens
It's similar to Trump's supporters in US eventually you end up with what happened in Capital Hill because there is no consequences and they are encouraged to do this