Nordic Ghost Yeti (Scandi Carroll) | Haaland at City

BlueMoonOutcast said:
I'm so excited! This guy has 85 goals in 88 games for Dortmund and we have Kevin De Bruyne.
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It must be so exciting to buy success rather than earn it.

Utd, Liverpool even Nottingham Forest in their time (Trevor Frances) all bought the best players because of their successes on the pitch.

The likes of Blackburn, Chelsea, City just bought success when their teams were crap………They didn’t win league after league and build on it like Liverpool and UTD, they didn’t get promotion to top flight win the league and Europe twice like Forest, they didn’t come from old fourth division all the way to top flight in 4 years like Watford…….no they all did absolutely sweet fa and were converted from crap with money that had nothing to with football. It’s sad and shameful.

I have played football manager on cheat mode and it gets boring very quickly and any success doesn’t feel like success just what is expected.
 
TheReligion said:
Didn’t think you had a point. Glad we got there in the end.
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My point was that you find it more sickening that we have spent 150 million on Grealish and Haaland than you spending 165 million on Pogba and Lukaku over five years previously (not to even mention Maguire). I didn't think that one was too difficult to work out.
 
matt10000 said:
It must be so exciting to buy success rather than earn it.

Utd, Liverpool even Nottingham Forest in their time (Trevor Frances) all bought the best players because of their successes on the pitch.

The likes of Blackburn, Chelsea, City just bought success when their teams were crap………They didn’t win league after league and build on it like Liverpool and UTD, they didn’t get promotion to top flight win the league and Europe twice like Forest, they didn’t come from old fourth division all the way to top flight in 4 years like Watford…….no they all did absolutely sweet fa and were converted from crap with money that had nothing to with football. It’s sad and shameful.

I have played football manager on cheat mode and it gets boring very quickly and any success doesn’t feel like success just what is expected.
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Good thing this isn't football manager.
 
::sonny:: said:
Sancho costed twice
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The price is depending on contract situation and negotiation with the club. Then comes the salary. Haven’t heard any reliable figures but don’t think he’ll go lower than Sancho.
 
Just saw Pep's press conference. He looked like a giddy teenage girl who just got her shiny new barbie.
 
Brownie85 said:
Thats true, but we've seen high profile signings fail in the past. Shevchenko, Di Maria, Veron etc... I remember Shevchenko being hyped up to the max and thinking he was going to cause Chelsea to dominate for years, but he was pretty useless in my opinion
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We will have to see. But I think Haaland is physical beast and probably strongest "bully" I've ever seen, he is like a speedy tank, and a goal machine. So its really hard to see him fail in PL, especially with City. The only time I could see him struggling to score goals, is when he is out injured.
 
MongeySpangle said:
My point was that you find it more sickening that we have spent 150 million on Grealish and Haaland than you spending 165 million on Pogba and Lukaku over five years previously (not to even mention Maguire). I didn't think that one was too difficult to work out.
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The money doesn’t matter to you so why you so concerned?
Second bite of the thread. Lovely.
 
This is sickening and a hard pill to swallow. He will take them to another level completely. City's only problem has been that they have needed a world class striker for probably a few years (including while Kun was there as he was on the decline and became injury prone).

Haaland along with that midfield... geez!! It hurts me to say, they will dominate for the next few years.

We've been making mistakes for 10 years now!!
 
Honestly if he wasn't going to City I'd debate on whether I think he'll be a surefire hit. But I think his almost predatory instincts combined with the way they play football means that he'll eventually become their new Aguero:(
 
Silly Norwegian, probably don't realize he's signed for the wrong Manchester.

Kinda annoyed that I can no longer root for him doing well at club level...
 
RedRonaldo said:
We will have to see. But I think Haaland is physical beast and probably strongest "bully" I've ever seen, he is like a speedy tank, and a goal machine. So its really hard to see him fail in PL, especially with City. The only time I could see him struggling to score goals, is when he is out injured.
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Thats why i say, personally i don't think he'll struggle at all in the Premier League.
As with any of us here, i'd have loved him to come to us, no questions asked. I'm glad he didn't go to Liverpool though, that would have been absolutely unbearable
 
::sonny:: said:
Sancho costed twice
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This is where you are wrong.

They only had to pay Dortmund that much, but the agent fee + father fee required was a LOT more that isn't being published.
 
I'm a bit meh about this transfer. Liverpool signing Tchouameni would be annoying as feck and tough pill to swallow because I think he's exactly the sort of player we need and could realistically get him. Haaland always felt like a pipe dream so whatever.
 
Goal scoring in Bundesliga means nothing, every game seems to finish 4-3.

A long shot but hopefully he ends up being another Haller or Joelinton.
 
matt10000 said:
It must be so exciting to buy success rather than earn it.

Utd, Liverpool even Nottingham Forest in their time (Trevor Frances) all bought the best players because of their successes on the pitch.

The likes of Blackburn, Chelsea, City just bought success when their teams were crap………They didn’t win league after league and build on it like Liverpool and UTD, they didn’t get promotion to top flight win the league and Europe twice like Forest, they didn’t come from old fourth division all the way to top flight in 4 years like Watford…….no they all did absolutely sweet fa and were converted from crap with money that had nothing to with football. It’s sad and shameful.

I have played football manager on cheat mode and it gets boring very quickly and any success doesn’t feel like success just what is expected.
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Every club is buying success unless all the players are from academy.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Big clubs don't hand out silly release clauses for that you don't need hindsight.

You said he'd have stayed if we won stuff. Which hindsight tells us we wouldn't have. So it would have been a small time thing for a big club to do and wouldn't have worked anyway as he'd leave us for City anyway
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Anti Prem Clause then worst case sell to Bayern Barca Juve Real or PSG.

He'd have taken that. If the club don't have faith in themselves to succeed that that's admitting failure before it happens. No wonder we are shite
 
Injury prone. He will bomb in this league. No way will he score over 20 goals.
 
laughtersassassin said:
Anti Prem Clause then worst case sell to Bayern Barca Juve Real or PSG.

He'd have taken that. If the club don't have faith in themselves to succeed that that's admitting failure before it happens. No wonder we are shite
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You don't know that. We're not shit because we didn't give a young kid a low release clause.
 
b20times said:
Injury prone. He will bomb in this league. No way will he score over 20 goals.
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He probably will do really well with the possession City has and chances they created. He won't be starved of service that is for sure. With him City's transition from defense to attack in CL will be much quicker. He probably needs to improve his heading and his positioning play in City and EPL.
 
Can't stand the guy but he seems good enough to keep Liverpool at bay for a few years while we try to pull our finger out for the nth time.
 
Hopefully these clauses become more common place as players decide to play at the not-so-big clubs in their earlier years. I'd say great business, and it is, but it's all down to Mino, or at least heavily so. Dortmuch get a profit and a few years in a potential legends story... Haaland gets money and the transfer without any hassle.
 
He's only going there to tear down the regime from the inside. What a trooper.

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laughtersassassin said:
Anti Prem Clause then worst case sell to Bayern Barca Juve Real or PSG.

He'd have taken that. If the club don't have faith in themselves to succeed that that's admitting failure before it happens. No wonder we are shite
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As if that wouldn't be gotten around. :lol:

Girona "pay" release clause. City immediately give them that +10m.
 
Zen said:
Hopefully these clauses become more common place as players decide to play at the not-so-big clubs in their earlier years. I'd say great business, and it is, but it's all down to Mino, or at least heavily so. Dortmuch get a profit and a few years in a potential legends story... Haaland gets money and the transfer without any hassle.
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Raiola's jail free card for his client. If Harry Kane has Raiola as his agent he won't have the problem he has right now.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
You don't know that. We're not shit because we didn't give a young kid a low release clause.
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It's a reasonable assumption. Still lots of great clubs for him to join should we be failures.

Its better to take the risk to improve the team because if it works it'll be relatively easy to convince them to stay at a winning side.
 
laughtersassassin said:
It's a reasonable assumption. Still lots of great clubs for him to join should we be failures.

Its better to take the risk to improve the team because if it works it'll be relatively easy to convince them to stay at a winning side.
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Agree to disagree. Never want United doing that.
 
V.O. said:
As if that wouldn't be gotten around. :lol:

Girona "pay" release clause. City immediately give them that +10m.
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United fans so paranoid and afraid of City. Bit sad.

I'd rather have a good player in the hopes it improves us than worry about what if he wants to leave in a few seasons cause we are shite.
 
laughtersassassin said:
United fans so paranoid and afraid of City. Bit sad.

I'd rather have a good player in the hopes it improves us than worry about what if he wants to leave cause we are shite.
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By that logic every big club in world football is paranoid and afraid by not giving players release clauses (or making them unfeasibly high as the Spanish clubs have to do).

The fact that he wants a release clause in the first place is an indication that he doesn't want to be around long term and that you're a stepping stone.
 
laughtersassassin said:
United fans so paranoid and afraid of City. Bit sad.

I'd rather have a good player in the hopes it improves us than worry about what if he wants to leave in a few seasons cause we are shite.
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Having your best player decide to leave your club for your biggest rival is not good in any situation.

Business wise, PR wise, whatever way you want to label it. Look at the Figo fiasco.

It's just not the done thing for clubs at the top of the food chain.
 
great signing for them if he can stay healthy.

But sort of moves away from the type of player Pep usually plays.
 
RedRonaldo said:
We will have to see. But I think Haaland is physical beast and probably strongest "bully" I've ever seen, he is like a speedy tank, and a goal machine. So its really hard to see him fail in PL, especially with City. The only time I could see him struggling to score goals, is when he is out injured.
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I definitely think he'll struggle to score goals when he's out injured. I'd go as far as to say he won't score a single goal when he isn't playing. And I'd put money on it. Lots.
 
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