Nordic Ghost Yeti (Scandi Carroll) | Haaland at City

Who is that and what, aside from being daddy's special boy, gave him the notion that his opinion needed to be heard by an audience?
Exactly. I just enjoyed the fact he’s been given a platform to spout this nonsense and I’m return that platform has shown him to be absolutely clueless.
 
White Lukaku is going to get humbled real quick and will be be off to Madrid or Bayern in no time.

City plays football that doesn't suit him at all. He'll struggle to score 10 league goals.

Don’t forget our own gem on the caf.
 
Do you think Ruud would be putting up similar numbers in this city team? I know he wasn't as fast and strong as Haaland but his finishing was just as lethal
 
White Lukaku is going to get humbled real quick and will be be off to Madrid or Bayern in no time.

City plays football that doesn't suit him at all. He'll struggle to score 10 league goals.
Yikes
 
Do you think Ruud would be putting up similar numbers in this city team? I know he wasn't as fast and strong as Haaland but his finishing was just as lethal
Yes and Henry too
 
You’re hilarious :lol: For some there’s only black and white… Ladies and gentlemen! The poster who rates national teams by how much their squads are valued in money.

Well, market values aren't perfect but I think they illustrate quite well that Norway is individually much better than the majority of opponents Haaland faced :) But maybe I'm irrational for arguing that goal records against teams mostly consisting of players who are barely good enough for second divisions in England, Spain, Italy, France or Germany don't prove that a player would maintain his goal record under all circumstances.
 
Well, market values aren't perfect but I think they illustrate quite well that Norway is individually much better than the majority of opponents Haaland faced :) But maybe I'm irrational for arguing that goal records against teams mostly consisting of players who are barely good enough for second divisions in England, Spain, Italy, France or Germany don't prove that a player would maintain his goal record under all circumstances.
Have the people you argue with actually made the point Haaland will "maintain his goal record (I assume City rate) under all circumstances "? No matter teammates or opposition? If so, please quote. Feels like a complete strawman. I guess most if not all will agree he'll average more in better teams and against lesser opposition.
 
City are in a great run of form at the moment, and really have clicked even outside of Haaland. That never lasts a whole season. Form ebbs and flows.

But at this moment, I'm not sure I've seen as dominant a side outside of Pep's Barca - and this City team actually attack a lot of the time. We have to at least admit it's impressive.

I think a player like Ruud or Shearer or even Harry Kane would not be far off Haaland's numbers this year. Doesn't help any of the other teams though!
 
I think that Ruud would be hitting 40 league goals in this City team. Much easier to score goals in this era too.
Nope! He wouldn’t and it isn’t.

Golden Boot the last 4 years: 22, 23, 23 and 23 goals.
Aguero played 9 full season in the same team with just as good service and maxed on 26 goals and fought even battles with Kane, Vardy and Salah every season. Haaland looks to almost double the goals of the closest contender. There is absolutely nothing that indicates Ruud would double his goaltally there. He played for dominant teams all his career. Not Henry either btw.
 
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Have the people you argue with actually made the point Haaland will "maintain his goal record (I assume City rate) under all circumstances "? No matter teammates or opposition? If so, please quote. Feels like a complete strawman. I guess most if not all will agree he'll average more in better teams and against lesser opposition.
Noone has said anything like that, just that his goalrecord for Norway is incredible by any standard. He’d score in any team, however, I don’t even think it merits discussion that he’ll score a lot more in the team that creates the most chances across the top leagues. Like you said, a strawman. He’s just doing whatever he can to discredit Haalands achievments.
 
Nope! He wouldn’t and it isn’t.

Golden Boot the last 4 years: 22, 23, 23 and 23 goals.
Aguero played 9 full season in the same team with just as good service and maxed on 26 goals and fought even battles with Kane, Vardy and Salah every season. Haaland looks to almost double the goals of the closest contender. There is absolutely nothing that indicates Ruud would double his goaltally there. He played for dominant teams all his career. Not Henry either btw.

If he continues his current form for the next 8-9 years, he will be better than Henry sure... However that would be a near miracle. I think we need to wait another 2-3 years to see how he deals with injuries. R9 at Ajax and Barca looked like he could go forever but then injuries buried him. The real blessings of Messi and CR7 was their outrageous luck regarding injuries. If players could remain unhurt we might have seen so many all time greats.........
 
Who is that guy in the twitter video? What a thick twat. "If he scores 15, it's a really good season." :lol: Haaland has already scored 20 and 15 coming in the league.
 
Who is that guy in the twitter video? What a thick twat. "If he scores 15, it's a really good season." :lol: Haaland has already scored 20 and 15 coming in the league.

think he's already released another video saying he's a total wrongmo
 
Noone has said anything like that, just that his goalrecord for Norway is incredible by any standard. He’d score in any team, however, I don’t even think it merits discussion that he’ll score a lot more in the team that creates the most chances across the top leagues. Like you said, a strawman. He’s just doing whatever he can to discredit Haalands achievments.
Yeah, agree with this.
 
Has this been posted?



Has any prediction ever been proven wrong this quickly and this severely? It might literally be the worst football take of all time. You could argue 'You can't win anything with kids' was worse, but it did take almost a full season until that was proven wrong. This one has been smashed into oblivion in 10 games.
 
The £51m transfer fee is a bit disingenuous considering his dad pocketed something like £20m and the agent pocketed something like £25m from the deal.


Those calculations are so flawed. Wages and any future payments need to be discounted for inflation to arrive at the present value of cash flows.
 
Nope! He wouldn’t and it isn’t.

Golden Boot the last 4 years: 22, 23, 23 and 23 goals.
Aguero played 9 full season in the same team with just as good service and maxed on 26 goals and fought even battles with Kane, Vardy and Salah every season. Haaland looks to almost double the goals of the closest contender. There is absolutely nothing that indicates Ruud would double his goaltally there. He played for dominant teams all his career. Not Henry either btw.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/beckham-scholes-keane-giggs-the-best-ever.246509/
 
Has any prediction ever been proven wrong this quickly and this severely? It might literally be the worst football take of all time. You could argue 'You can't win anything with kids' was worse, but it did take almost a full season until that was proven wrong. This one has been smashed into oblivion in 10 games.

My theory is that the people who predicted that he'd be "found out" at City hadn't actually watched him play much: they based their take on the assumptions that 1) he was unproven at the highest level and 1) that he's a traditional, goal grabbing striker with limited all-round ability and therefore not a good fit for a Pep team.

(We can probably also factor in a general idea about the BL being shit and anyone doing well there is overrated per default.)

If they had watched him play a bit they couldn't have failed to notice that he possesses certain extreme traits that will make him dangerous in any kind of setup.
 
My theory is that the people who predicted that he'd be "found out" at City hadn't actually watched him play much: they based their take on the assumptions that 1) he was unproven at the highest level and 1) that he's a traditional, goal grabbing striker with limited all-round ability and therefore not a good fit for a Pep team.

(We can probably also factor in a general idea about the BL being shit and anyone doing well there is overrated per default.)

If they had watched him play a bit they couldn't have failed to notice that he possesses certain extreme traits that will make him dangerous in any kind of setup.

I don't disagree (especially on the Bundesliga point), but it would still take an extremely superficial view of Haaland and his stats to arrive at this conclusion. The guy averaged more than a goal pr. game in the Champions League across both his Salzburg and Dortmund days - that's not normal.

I will admit, that I was probably in the camp saying that he will score a ton of goals, but not necessarily be the final piece of the puzzle that takes City to another level, because they were simply already so good. Even that seems like a silly prediction now.
 
Aguero played 9 full season in the same team with just as good service and maxed on 26 goals and fought even battles with Kane, Vardy and Salah every season.

Aguero was injured a lot. He regularly missed 10+ league games for City during his prime.

He averaged almost a goal per 90 in his best seasons. Those others you mention can't match that.

Anyway, the pure numbers really don't tell the full story (especially if we're comparing Haaland to Ruud).
 
Those calculations are so flawed. Wages and any future payments need to be discounted for inflation to arrive at the present value of cash flows.
I mean it’s pretty irrelevant. The crux of the matter is that the £51m down payment for the transfer is actually £96m, and the overall cost is £193m. Putting it in 2022 real terms doesn’t really change the narrative.
 
Do you think Ruud would be putting up similar numbers in this city team? I know he wasn't as fast and strong as Haaland but his finishing was just as lethal
Yes of course. Imagine what Kane is thinking - that should be him. Haaland’s finishing hasn’t been that faultless to be honest but he’s so young it’ll only get better and better.
 
Yes of course. Imagine what Kane is thinking - that should be him. Haaland’s finishing hasn’t been that faultless to be honest but he’s so young it’ll only get better and better.
I think RVN or Kane would score less goals in Haaland's place. He is simply physically stronger and therefore can finish in some situations where all three know what do to but only one has the power to actually get there. But I think it wouldn't be a big difference (maybe 5-10 goals a season)
 
I think RVN or Kane would score less goals in Haaland's place. He is simply physically stronger and therefore can finish in some situations where all three know what do to but only one has the power to actually get there. But I think it wouldn't be a big difference (maybe 5-10 goals a season)
Kane I think would arguably make them even better if that’s possible but the flip side is he’s 29, Haaland should get even better. Kane is a better finisher so I think it evens out with Haaland scoring more where he’s using the raw power/physicality but Kane puts more chances away. The big difference is Kane can drop in and play like a 10 and 9 combined which is probably Pep’s wet dream.

Agree re RVP - amazing finisher but he’s not as physical in and around the box. Although I will say his hold up play was the best I’ve seen at times, he was so leggy and awkward to dispossess.
 
All the doom and gloom is premature. It's only October and Haaland & City are yet to be tested this season. Even weakened Dortmund managed to keep Haaland & KDB silenced for most of the game. Let's see what happens when they face elite teams with elite defenders.

And feel free to tag me if Haaland further elevates his game and starts producing worldies and screamers on a regular basis!
By your standards there is one good football player in the world: Messi.