Im not writing off Haaland. I never did. The guy is a monster.
But still it’s a monster sitting in the middle of the best possession team in the world. It’s a hard game gotten even harder for everyone else.
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Im not writing off Haaland. I never did. The guy is a monster.
But still it’s a monster sitting in the middle of the best possession team in the world. It’s a hard game gotten even harder for everyone else.
Seriously though. You should read the entire post and maybe even think a little about what it says before throwing back the exact same hypothesis as the post it was a replying to. LazyOnly your dumb ass links football to IQLiterally brings this up every time like you bloody can’t stop thinking about me
But there’s people saying I’m writing off Haaland. I never did.
All I’m saying is that this is arguably the best finisher in the world in the middle of the best possession team in the world.
I’ve never seen a possesion team built like this City - when you consider how Barcelona was built with David Villa out wide and Messi in the middle - this is different and it’s scarily brilliant.
Van Nisterlooij has been an incredible striker but when he turned 22 he had:
17 goals in 69 games in Dutch second division
13 in 31 in Dutch Eredivisie
6 in 7 in Dutch national cup
0 in 4 in Intertoto Cup
no games in Holland NT
The fact with Haaland is that on the date of his 22th birthday he already had:
14 in 39 in Norwegian Eliteserien
17 in 16 in Austrian Bundesliga
62 in 67 in German Bundesliga
14 in 17 in those countries national cups
23 in 20 in CL
4 in 5 in EL
20 in 22 in Norway NT
I've followed football for three decades and I don't really remember anyone else apart Mbappé being so precocious.
He's got 19 goals ffs, and we're only in the first week of October. Most strikers would be perfectly happy to score 19 in a season and this freak does it in 2 months of football.
It is almost unbelievable. Many strikers currently playing in the league haven't ever hit 14 league goals in their entire career and this guy does it in 8 matches.
Good thing he dreams of playing for Real Madrid to be surrounded by a bunch of ungrateful white handkerchief waving cnuts and he also may have once dreamt of playing for Barca and not getting his wages paid. So he'll be out the door in a couple of seasons. Nothing to worry about.
He’s alright
Agreed, that’s what I’m saying.
I mean to be fair, it literally says it under your username.Only your dumb ass links football to IQ
How could our output be down because of Ruud when we scored 26 goals more than before Ruud got there when we had 104 goals in all comps? As I said Ruud joined a not super high scoring team where as Haaland joined a team that scored damn near 150 goals before he got there so its not a fair comparison in terms of the opportunities the sides could make. City also scored 20 more in less games without a recognized striker to capitalise on those chances.
So if they had Ruud then he would have everyone setting the ball up for him as they are for Haaland he would score more no? Last year City had 7 players in double figures including Mahrez with 24. We'll have to see how things go in terms of whether they will maintain this level of scoring and how it affects the other players with Haaland gobbling up the goals but it might not even matter tbh
If anything, all other strikers in the league must be thinking their records and credentials have just been thrown in the bin. A penny for Kane and Salah’s thoughts.
Dixie Dean is restless in his grave, a new king has arrived and he will shake foundations to the core.
I doubt either of them are concerned yet - it's only been 8 games and they have many years of consistently being at the top. I'm sure they are bloody impressed with him though.
Enjoy a player at city?
Eh, football fans these days.
So that means Lukaku is better than RVN because the scored more goals buy age 22?
I recalll RVN started off as a sweeper so had learnt the CF game later by studying guys like Bergkamp and was never a wonderkid in the first instance
I think Suarez was better. How many CB who you consider all time great or in your top 30-50 would you say are currently playing in this era?
Enjoy a player bringing success to fecking City? Are you for real?
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Its really strange that he's not a person who you instantly have a dislike for, like Samir Nasri or Ashley Cole, or even young Fabregas.
His father also comes across as polite and sensible
hes not as good as macheda yet
Honestly can't think of any beyond the aging Thiago Silva and Bonucci that might even come close.
Van Dijk, Verane? Although Verane has been declining steadily. Maguire is in with a shout
Suarez' had a brilliant career and was a very wellrounded striker at his peak, but he only had 1 season in his career where he crosses the 1+ goals per 90 line. He did so in one of the most stacked teams in the history of the game. Suarez, Messi and Neymar scored 122 goals alone in that season. How good was the CBs outside of Barca, Atletico and Real Madrid in LaLiga back then? He scored 20 in 38 games against Atletico and Real Madrid.
Look at the numbers underneath and say with a straight face that Suarez was a better striker than Haaland.
Suarez top 5 league record is:
69 goals in 110 games for Liverpool (0,65 G/90 and 1,01 G+A/90) in the Premier League
176 goals in 258 games for Barca and Atleti (0,78 G/90 and 1,15 G+A/90) in LaLiga.
Suarez in the CL:
27 goals in 73 games for Ajax, Liverpool, Barca and Atleti (0,40 G/90 and 0,77 G+A/90) in the CL
Suarez for Uruguay:
66 goals in 133 games for Norway (0,54 G/90 and 0,86 G+A/90)
Haaland in top 5 leagues:
62 goals in 67 games for Dortmund (1,04 G/90 and 1,32 G+A/90) in the Bundesliga
14 goals in 8 games for City (1,90 G/90 and 2,31 G+A/90) in the PL
Haaland in the CL:
28 goals in 22 games for City, Dortmund and Salzburg (1,51 G/90 and 1,67 G+A/90) in the CL
Haaland for Norway:
20 goals in 22 games for Norway (0,98 G/90 and 1,12 G+A/90)
I would say yes. Liverpool wasn't a great side when Suarez arrived. He joined the 6th best team with Kujt as their leading attacker and dragged them to competition. The season he left their manager got sacked and they came 8th. He was the bus driver. Haaland joined the champs who create enough chances for 150 goal output before he got there. As you pointed out Suarez is a more rounded attacking player. Tell me why you think Luis could not do the same in this City team? At Barcelona they were set up for Messi to score more and you damn well know this. You are being facetious.
I'm a football fan above anything, I fecking love the game.
Yeah it pains that he's doing it for them, but he's sublime and I'm thankful that I get to see player like Ronaldo, Messi and Haaland as they are truly elite players.
Ultimately players like Haaland should motivate every young striker playing football to emulate him, which can only be a good thing as it eventually raises the bar and gives us another elite players who will break the records.
If he was playing for Liverpool however, now that's a different story altogether
CL Top Goal Scorers of All Time:
He needs 4 goals to become 24th on this list. Look at his goal ratio! It's wild.
He needs 4 goals to become 24th on this list. Look at his goal ratio! It's wild.
| Rank | Player | Goals | Apps | Ratio |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Cristiano Ronaldo | 140 | 183 | 0.77 |
| 2 | Lionel Messi | 127 | 159 | 0.8 |
| 3 | Robert Lewandowski | 89 | 109 | 0.82 |
| 4 | Karim Benzema | 86 | 144 | 0.6 |
| 5 | Raúl | 71 | 142 | 0.5 |
| 6 | Ruud van Nistelrooy | 56 | 73 | 0.77 |
| 7 | Thomas Müller | 52 | 136 | 0.38 |
| 8 | Thierry Henry | 50 | 112 | 0.45 |
| 9 | Alfredo Di Stéfano | 49 | 58 | 0.84 |
| 10 | Andriy Shevchenko | 48 | 100 | 0.48 |
| Zlatan Ibrahimović | 48 | 124 | 0.39 | |
| 12 | Eusébio | 46 | 65 | 0.71 |
| Filippo Inzaghi | 46 | 81 | 0.57 | |
| 14 | Didier Drogba | 44 | 92 | 0.48 |
| 15 | Neymar | 42 | 78[4] | 0.54 |
| Alessandro Del Piero | 42 | 89 | 0.47 | |
| 17 | Sergio Agüero | 41 | 79 | 0.52 |
| 18 | Mohamed Salah | 38 | 74[5] | 0.51 |
| 19 | Ferenc Puskás | 36 | 41[6] | 0.88 |
| Kylian Mbappé | 36 | 56 | 0.64 | |
| 21 | Edinson Cavani | 35 | 70[7] | 0.51 |
| 22 | Gerd Müller | 34 | 35[6] | 0.97 |
| 23 | Fernando Morientes | 33 | 93 | 0.35 |
| 24 | Arjen Robben | 31 | 110 | 0.28 |
| 25 | Samuel Eto'o | 30 | 78 | 0.38 |
| Antoine Griezmann | 30 | 82[8] | 0.37 | |
| Wayne Rooney | 30 | 85 | 0.35 | |
| Kaká | 30 | 86 | 0.35 | |
| Francisco Gento | 30 | 89 | 0.34 | |
| 30 | David Trezeguet | 29 | 58 | 0.5 |
| Roy Makaay | 29 | 61 | 0.48 | |
| Patrick Kluivert | 29 | 71 | 0.41 | |
| 33 | Erling Haaland | 28 | 22[9] | 1.27 |
Because he was smaller, weaker, slower, doesn't have as good movement off the ball, positional awareness, anticipation and wasn't as good a finisher, much like Aguero. Both world class strikers, just a tier below.
Top 50 of all time? VVD maybe, Varane & Maguire no chance.
Entering top 20 should be his target for this season, entering top 10 seems to be possible next season. That's just insane.
Are you seriously suggesting Maguire is anywhere close to being top30-50 CBs in the history of the game?
Messi 0.8 is insane already, but 1.27 is on another level. But Messi and CR7 has been doing this for decade.
erl haaland, which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
thy kingdom come. thy will be done,
in pl, as it was in bundes.
give us this day our daily goal. and forgive us our offsides, as we forgive those that offside against us.
and lead us not into europa, but deliver us the cl.
for thine is the golden boot, the power, and pl glory, for ever and ever. a man.
thy kingdom come. thy will be done,
in pl, as it was in bundes.
give us this day our daily goal. and forgive us our offsides, as we forgive those that offside against us.
and lead us not into europa, but deliver us the cl.
for thine is the golden boot, the power, and pl glory, for ever and ever. a man.
Oh come on, Ramos, Varane, Boateng, Chiellini, Bonnuci, T.Silva, VVD, Godin are very good defenders in any era.
Both Messi and Cristiano started out as wingers though. Still Haaland's ratio is incredible especially considering he only just arrived from Dortmund.
Don’t think Suarez could have done the same, not a chance. Simply because being obsessed with goalscoring wasn’t his game, whatever way you try to spin it he wouldn’t get the same chances as Haaland gets. As a striker (whos job it is to score goals, unless this isn’t football anymore?) Haaland’s dicipline and movement in the box makes it easy to find him. RvN i concede could have come closest, but not quite to the same level. As has been pointed out, xg stats are available…
Everytime I see this list it just puts into perspective how unlucky Van Nistelrooy was. Far better ratio than most of the people on this list yet no CL to show for his efforts.
His yet another "Karate kick goal" yesterday really just shows that he's got skill. He can't dribble and playmake like Messi and all of that, but he's looks like best penalty box striker since Gerd Müller. He's in the perfect setup and can develop further. Very salty indeed that he plays for the wrong side in Manchester.
Messi too so Messi could not score these goals
Disrespectful
Haaland only been in the major scene since 2020 when most of these dudes are finished or damn near 40. Many are from a bygone Era. Did you really say Boateng and T.Silva? M