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sun_tzu said:
Both were civil cases and therefore both would have been based on balance of probability... If either had made it to court... Which of course they didnt
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As a Scholar of law I'm fully aware.

High profile defendants tend to settle not as a sign of guilt but at the liklihood of being found guilty on the balance. Public opinion has already found many of them guilty and the chance of them successfully defending in a civil case is slim.

Truth is, there are only a few people in both cases that know what really happened. I always felt that 'taking the money' isn't an option I'd chose.
 
How much you reckon she got off him? I mean Ronaldo’s accuser wanted 30 + million or something like that - would this case involve similar figures?

I mean hopefully she got a lot - as much as she could get - I have no doubt that she’s been taken advantage of.

Also, this is all coming out of taxpayers pocket isn’t it? We’re paying for noncery…
 
Honestly I’m really disappointed in this.

she should have taken him the whole way. If women really want to make a hard statement about all this shit then they have to pursue it in it’s entirety.

Unfortuntely she will now be viewed by many as simply being after the money. Like it or not.
 
Least surprising thing to happen since the invasion of Afghanistan.
 
Rooney24 said:
Honestly I’m really disappointed in this.

she should have taken him the whole way. If women really want to make a hard statement about all this shit then they have to pursue it in it’s entirety.

Unfortuntely she will now be viewed by many as simply being after the money. Like it or not.
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I imagine this is less about her and more about the damage to the reputation of the royal family if the Queen’s son is found guilty of these crimes in a Court, civil or not. At least with a settlement they can stick Andy in the closet and crack on.
 
Paxi said:
How much you reckon she got off him? I mean Ronaldo’s accuser wanted 30 + million or something like that - would this case involve similar figures?

I mean hopefully she got a lot - as much as she could get - I have no doubt that she’s been taken advantage of.

Also, this is all coming out of taxpayers pocket isn’t it? We’re paying for noncery…
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Around £7.5m according to the Mail.
 
Rooney24 said:
Honestly I’m really disappointed in this.

she should have taken him the whole way. If women really want to make a hard statement about all this shit then they have to pursue it in it’s entirety.

Unfortuntely she will now be viewed by many as simply being after the money. Like it or not.
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Other than what was alleged, you know nothing about her or her life.

She got a massive payday which should set her up for the rest of her life. She's taking that as a win and good for her.
 
Rooney24 said:
Honestly I’m really disappointed in this.

she should have taken him the whole way. If women really want to make a hard statement about all this shit then they have to pursue it in it’s entirety.

Unfortuntely she will now be viewed by many as simply being after the money. Like it or not.
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The money has gone to her charity for abused victims. Wouldn’t blame her if she creamed some off for herself though.
 
So another English high folluting Kunt gets away without being held accountable.

Where does he get this money that he's paying her off with?

It's a fecking disgrace

The Teflon elite
 
SalfordRed18 said:
Other than what was alleged, you know nothing about her or her life.

She got a massive payday which should set her up for the rest of her life. She's taking that as a win and good for her.
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I know that she was going on about holding him to account. Not letting him pay his way out of it.

Just still sends out the message if you are rich enough you can do what you want.
 
Whether or not she should have taken the settlement aside...how is that even a thing anyway? I know it is, and has been for a long time, but surely it should have to be seen through for the sake of justice
 
VeevaVee said:
Whether or not she should have taken the settlement aside...how is that even a thing anyway? I know it is, and has been for a long time, but surely it should have to be seen through for the sake of justice
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Andrew was never going to jail but he is finished now as a Royal. He was demanding a jury a few weeks ago to prove his innocence but has basically crapped himself with a trial getting closer.

He is guilty as sin to the public now.
 
Didn't he claim to have never met her? Doesn't look great settling for big money for a crime you didn't commit on someone you've never met.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
Didn't he claim to have never met her? Doesn't look great settling for big money for a crime you didn't commit on someone you've never met.
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I suspect they see it as more damage could be done by going through with it, and as much damage as will be done has already been done if they pay her off, so it’s worth doing. Everyone thinks he’s guilty anyway. The only real L is the money and I doubt they’re short of that.
 
Have I got this right that the mighty American legal system is quite similar to that of some of the muslim countries they despise, in that if someone commits a crime they can buy their way out of justice by paying off the victim, and that's the end of it? It's up to them of course but it doesn't seem right to my old English eyes.
 
711 said:
Have I got this right that the mighty American legal system is quite similar to that of some of the muslim countries they despise, in that if someone commits a crime they can buy their way out of justice by paying off the victim, and that's the end of it? It's up to them of course but it doesn't seem right to my old English eyes.
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Civil cases exist in every country, I'm not sure what equivalence you're somehow trying to make with muslims?!

Regardless, Andrew was never facing 'justice' in the sense of being prosecuted or going to prison - like I said, this was a civil case, the state wasn't involved.
 
Must be weird living in a country where your royal family get to rape people and when they get caught, you pay the bill for it.
 
Droid_Repairs said:
Civil cases exist in every country, I'm not sure what equivalence you're somehow trying to make with muslims?!

Regardless, Andrew was never facing 'justice' in the sense of being prosecuted or going to prison - like I said, this was a civil case, the state wasn't involved.
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I thought in the UK a victim of a criminal act used the civil courts where the CPP had deemed there to be insufficient evidence to prosecute? I'm very much out of my depth on this though, I'm happy to be put right.
 
Ah, interesting regarding the timing of this.

Just read that the next step in the case was that her lawyers were due to visit the UK in the next couple of weeks to take his deposition.
 
utdalltheway said:
British taxpayers must be fuming that they’re paying for this settlement.
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I don't think they are or at least not directly. He recently settled a property dispute in Switzerland and it was speculated at the time this was to realise funds.

Edit: other reports say the Queen is having to add extra $ as he doesn't have enough. That said all the Royal's money is stolen from us so the point is probably moot.
 
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Words can’t describe how much I hate this royal family. Bring the guillotine.
 
When I woke up this morning I did not expect to end the day paying into some kind of nonce fund.
 
Eyepopper said:
Yep, when it came down to him being interviewed they folded immediately. Not really surprising after the "I don't sweat" performance.
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Not used to people not just agreeing with whatever he says by default. I'll bet he thought he had been masterful in that interview until everyone later called bullshit.
 
I'd love to see the end of these cnuts in my lifetime

sadly it seems impossible
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
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This has been one rather bizarre and tasteless aspect of the whole Andrew case, the equivalence the tabloids have made with Andrew's sexual assault allegations and Harry marrying a black woman and doing that interview.
 
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