Surely you'd have to start Zouma? He's been immense every time I've seen him and in my opinion one of the world's best young CB along with the likes of Bailly, Laporte and Gimenez.
Niklas Süle \ signs for Dortmund
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They wont get Süle in January though, as Hoffenheim have already excluded selling him in winter.
http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/alexander-rosen/wir-wollen-mit-rudy-verlaengern-48937960.bild.html
Hoffenheim are having a great season and Süle has been an integral part of it. He already had fantastic offers on the table last season, but he is a very down to earth lad, who loves his club and knows that its a great place to develop, especially under coach Nagelsmann.
Everything is running perfectly for him right now, so I cannot see Süle leaving Hoffenheim midway through the aseason. In summer its going to be a totally different story, but winter looks very unlikely.
He would prefer United over Chelsea anyway.
We'll see. All I know is that most of the transfer rumors I've read about us say Conte still wants another top CB within the next couple of windows.
The latest rumors I've read are that ourselves and Bayern are after him.
Also, why would you just assume he'd rather join United over Chelsea? He tell you that?
Looking at that list of players the only one he truly made a mistake with was De Bruyne, he is Jose's equivelant to what happened with Fergie and Pogba, but the rest weren't anything special and I include Lukaku in that, he wanted to be the main man at Chelsea and so Jose let him go so he could be the main man somewhere else as he needed better to win titles and got Costa. It's similar to Welbeck here, both players that wanted to be the main #9 at clubs that they weren't good enough to be the main #9 at, and they moved rather than accept squad roles.
I think if you look at Jose's embargoed portion of the press conference he gets United, he's playing a style of football that has given him grace with fans despite the results, he recognizes that United fans, especially inside OT, value more than just results, and that includes the youth players, hence why he keeps playing Rashford even though he's not warranted it recently.
These are kids, they aren't even 21 and if they are already thinking of moving on because they aren't being catered to then so be it IMO. I look at Lingard, Cleverley and recently Pereira, they dug in for the long haul and 2 have gotten their rewards and we'll see if Andreas does as well. Right now I just don't see who TFM or Tuanzebe merit getting ahead of.
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Actually he did say United was his dream move, it was in an interview posted in this thread. For the record I don't think Nostradamus is a United fan, he seems to be a German fan that dislikes the notion of German players leaving Germany for the PL.
Ok, I guess my point was not clear but thankfully you corrected it. For the names you mentioned, 2/3 were big money acquisitions and Morata was out of sheer necessity if anything.
I'm not disagreeing with you and it will be crazy on my part to think that an 18 year old should be getting games but what I was driving at is whether the environment they're in suggest that the manager will consider them in the long run, by that I mean being involved in their development as opposed to just leaving to chance. I don't know if I what I'm saying makes any sense but it's more the environment than anything else. If they don't feel like the manager has any interest in them or takes notice then it will be a shame.
For example, bringing in Sule who is a 2/3 older than these guys when Bailly and Jones are relatively young doesn't show that they are up for consideration anytime soon , as opposed to bringing in a Box in for example.
That YouTube video on the first page reminded me slightly of Kompany while at Anderlecht, similar stature too.
Okay, I see. Still, I find it hard to believe he'd turn us down if Conte called him and said he wants him here.
I get where you are coming ftom mate, obviously we don't know how Jose is interacting with these yopung players behind the scenes, he seems to have a plan for Pereira and sat him down to explain it, hopefully he is doing the same with the others.
I think Jose feels he needs another CB ready to play senior football and I'm sure if he could get Godin or Bonucci he'd opt for the older head, but the market means he'll likely have to go younger.
If United don't call him I agree, I'm sure he'd make the Chelsea move.
If you ask me, we should have been able to built an opinion on Jones, Smalling and Rojo (especially Jones) years ago. Either way, I believe that the only way we'll add 2 CBs (one of whom will be a converted RB) will be
a- The CBs we need are available
b- we find someone ready to buy Darmian
I can't think of a great side who didn't had a decent defence to protect it and I can't think of any decent defence who was so injury prone that couldn't come out with the same back 4 for 3 games in a row. The defence is a big concern for us and we wont be able to sort the problem with average defenders like Smalling, Jones and Rojo.
While I acknowledge Valencia's contribution in the attack, he's still unconvincing in the defensive side of the game. Don't take me wrong, he's good enough against more wingers. However I am not that confident in pitting him against a top quality winger. Unfortunately for us, we're out of the CL so we won't meet many of them anytime soon.
A converted RB would certainly give us more cover. Don't forget that fullbacks are usually the cinderella of football and most of them (including our own Valencia, Gaz and Evra) are failed wingers or CBs. As Carragher would cruelly says it, no one wants to be a Gary Neville. The fact that most are failed wingers tend to make them better in attacking. However that's not always the case. Maldini was a converted LB (he was equally great as CB and played LB due to the wealth of CBs AC Milan and Italy had at the time) and was better then Valencia in any part of his game. I see nothing wrong in having a converted full back especially in our defense were CBs can barely string 5 consecutive games without getting injured as long as we also have an attacking fullback available. We do have that with Valencia
My hometown club lost 0:4 in Hoffenheim saturday, had the possibility to watch Süle a full game for the first time. I'm not fully convinced he is united material but he is young and has time to develop under Nagelsmann. Well and it looks like he is a United fan, could be worse. Buy him and let him develop in Hoffenheim or somewhere in the PL
Smalling is faster, Baily is stronger
Think it's fair to assume it! Just like I would assume everybody would rather date Jennifer Laurence over Daniela Westbrook but I suppose there is always that one..
Now as much as I loved Maldini (he was one of my idols) to say he was better at attacking than Valencia is just wrong! Maldini was a great Valencia isn't I agree but Maldini kept it simple going forward Valencia is far better in this regard. Plus Valencia is quicker so Maldini although miles better the truth is he wasn't better in every aspect!
We're currently like Jennifer Lawrence who's let go of herself and turned fat but promises to lose weight again and gives 2 blowjobs a day to compensate though.
True that, there are some players I would like to stay or moving to my club instead, but when I say a player isnt gettable, then you ll recognise, that I m right 99% of the times. In summer he could leave, but not in winter. Tah for example wont be gettable before 2018.
A bit harsh but
I grew up watching the guy so I guess I know one thing or two about him. His technique was immense. He could win the ball to then dribble past defenders on the other end or cross the ball. He also had a good shot from outside the box. With all due respect but you're comparing the best left back in the past 30 years with a makeshift winger whose playing right back because he lack brains to play further in the pitch
I concede the pace thing. I remember Maldini struggling against speedsters like Kanchelskis. But there again who didnt?
Don't think United are any more attractive at all than Chelsea/City/Arsenal at this point in time for star players. Only thing you can offer that those clubs can't (or won't in some cases) is astronomical, absurd wages. That's obviously a big determining factor but not the end all, be all.
Especially now that you likely won't have CL football for the 3rd time in 4 years.
You compared to be fair I just gave an opinion on your comparison
You have to in this forum because the hype is very strong in this forum
Bayern Munich have signed him for €25m (and Rudy as free agent) for next season according to BILD.......the transfers will be official before Christmas.
Poor Hoffenheim.
fecking cnuts, buying up the league again. Hoffenheim will be shit again
€25m seems a little cheap. Is his contract running short or anything?
Our price levels in the league are just less inflated. 25m might be cheap for the PL, but it's not for the BuLi
I've watch more of his highlights recently and I've got to say Inreally don't see it. He's a huge guy and that obviously has its benefits and he's adventurous in his play which is admirable but he just seems so sluggish and his touch is often terrible. It's poorly timed too, if a striker is quick to press him when he takes one of these touches they're going to punish him severely.
He's Stones with more of a physique IMO.
He's Stones with more of a physique IMO.
Shame if Bayern have got him.... from Bundesliga highlights on ITV, he looked a prospect. Big enough to cope with the physical stuff (which he'd get in the PL), but had a sprint over 10 yards and decent technique for a CH (used to play up front when younger).
Early days but could've been a good un..... would've paid 25m and slowly edged him in.
Obviously watching different highlights?
Early days but could've been a good un..... would've paid 25m and slowly edged him in.
Obviously watching different highlights?
Bayern just buying to destroy their rivals, they don't need this lad with Hummels and Boateng, he's gonna be a back up.
Well so far this season we really struggle with injuries at his position. Still i think it would be better for him to play one more season in hoffenheim (especially if they reach international football) and develop while being one of the main guys. But i for Bayern it was maybe the question of now or never with the growing interest from the premier league. Maybe the same issue as sane last season. For me still a good transfer for me, very promising player and with Tah the future cb in germany. Rudy i dont really get, we are already loaded at cm, maybe as rb if lahm retires after this season?
Twice the defender stones is, costs half the sum.
Yeah, almost-relegate of the last season Hoffenheim whose best ever finish was 7th years ago are now our "rivals". We're trying to destroy them, just as you did with your "rivals" when you bought Rio, Rooney, Carrick, Shaw and countless other talent from the lesser teams in your league
There's nothing like a muppet meltdown on the caf
Yeah, almost-relegate of the last season Hoffenheim whose best ever finish was 7th years ago are now our "rivals". We're trying to destroy them, just as you did with your "rivals" when you bought Rio, Rooney, Carrick, Shaw and countless other talent from the lesser teams in your league
There's nothing like a muppet meltdown on the caf
A talent like Sule's career stalling because he has two of the greatest defenders on the planet in front of him is indeed worthy of a meltdown. I rate him very highly. Unless Ancelotti is going to play a back 3 then it's a transfer that has many questions marks over it. But you already know that.
We'll talk again when Ulreich is sold to make space for Leno.
- at least 1 of Boa, Hummels and Martinez is always injured. We had Alaba playing CB for us this season on several occasions already
- the 3 mentioned above will all be 29 already when Süle joins. Having a top flight talent of a younger age bracket is a sign of wise squad planning
- Alonso is getting phased out, and probably won't be with us as a player anymore next season, meaning Javi might move up into midfield
This is a great signing for us, and Süle will get his minutes, no worries.
Badstuber seems to be leaving and if Martinez goes back to midfield, Süle is CB3 behind the sometimes/often injured Boateng/Hummels. As a 21 year old German that is a great situation to be in.
Picked Sule up on a free in FM2017. He ain't all that.
Before this season I wouldnt have understood it either, but he is having a fantastic season as the midfield general in front of the defense. His ball contribution has been amazing and it looks so easy and calmed, but it is mostly very smart and precise. His passing in general has been fantastic combined with a great technique..always with a cool head and plenty of effort and passion and even his tacklings are good. I would classify him pressing resistant.
The less hectic and counter attacking style of Nagelsmann clearly suits him and his style could also very well fit for Bayern. He is in his prime with 27 next season and can play multiple positions. He costs nothing and is German national player. I see a good chance that he could surprise many.
I know he doesnt have a fancy name, but here is a player, who is showing great performances in the Carrick role and you guys are well aware how rare the market is here. Verratti and Weigl are not gettable, so who is there also?
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