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I reckon we'll get him after we secure Maguire. It's impossible to work on 2 deals at a time.
There is a difference between allowing him to leave and the "we are trying to start a bidding war" approaching that Lille has done the last few months imo. But then again, i have not followed Ligue 1 closely, nor am i as knowledgable about the league as you. So will not say i know what agreement Pepe had with the club last season regarding a future transfer.
Back on the most important topic:
1. Would you sign him to United?
2. If so, what can we expect?
3. What would you say is a fair price for him?
4. How would you compare him to Chukwueze?
Whether we get Pepe is entirely dependent on whether we sell Lukaku imo.I reckon we'll get him after we secure Maguire. It's impossible to work on 2 deals at a time.
Should go for Chukwueze instead. Or Ziyech.
It is a reason as for why Lille has tried to offload him this summer. They know that he is very unlikely to play at a similar level in the future in regards to quantifiable output. Better sell him now when you can get decent £££ for him. That Liverpool and Bayern has showed zero interest and denied any interest should be an indication that his goals and assist does not reflect his actual ability.
They will do it because it was a massive surprise that he signed for them in the fist place, he picked them for Bielsa instead of Monaco and Lyon. So if Lille want to sign someone like him in the near future, they better make sure to not be seen as a club that would prevent players from leaving.
As for your questions, I already said that I don't know what to think other than he is a very good Ligue 1 player, I would like to see him play in continental competitions in order to have a better idea about his level and for that reason I think that an intermediary club would be ideal. In terms of price, probably around 40m and I don't know Chukwueze.
Makes sense.
40m is more realistic compared to some of the prices mentioned in the media.
I find it difficult in general to evaluate players in Ligue 1, and Pepe could be extremely good, and he could be really bad.
Why does no one want Ziyech then.
I hope this is all bollocks personally about spending £70m on him.
I just don't see a £70m player in him. Doesn't possess top level pace or dribbling ability to be a top winger.
We should try and sign Federico Chiesa if we're ready to spend big on a wide player this season. If not, then I'd rather wait another season and try and sign Sancho.
I'm even on board with Bale and Robben on loan like @Rozay suggested than sign Pepe.
Bad players don't score or assist in France, there is a reason why it's the league that provides the most players to the others.
Like who? Who could we get at the level of Sancho? Also, what players are available on loan that would improve us? Even with Bale, Madrid would want a permanent transfer.We do need a right winger/forward, but if it's not Sancho, then at least that level of quality. Or even just a loan until we get that type of quality.
I think so.
Maybe then, I can’t exactly remember the requirements anymore. I can’t imagine him going for anywhere close to Pepe’s price, personally. They’re very different players though, I don’t think we’d be interested in both. Would be one or the other.
True, but it could be argued that there is a greater risk attached to signing attacking players compared to defensive players, especially players that have an individualistic playing style.
I'm not saying he is a bad player, but I'm not sure how he would perform against balanced defences. E.g. my perception of Ligue 1 is that compared to the EPL on average, the teams play with a higher risk and the number of opportunities for counters etc. are higher in France. And teams in the EPL are more focused on team balance on average.
Like who? Who could we get at the level of Sancho? Also, what players are available on loan that would improve us? Even with Bale, Madrid would want a permanent transfer.
Realistically speaking there isn't anyone at the level of Sancho (Sancho included) available this summer. So, the question is whether we don't sign a right wing/forward this summer (even if we sell Lukaku) whilst hoping Sancho joins next summer or we go for a player like Pepe this summer.
Yes, think it was ambitious. Doesn't feel like it at present so will be an interesting few weeks to see how much more happens. If we add Maguire, Pepe, Longstaff, Bruno and loan Bale then that will be ambitious.Was it not ambitious plans? I remember reading that somewhere but I can’t recall from where it came and been holding on to it all summer but if it’s come from a Lille exec then it doesn’t really have that much weight.
I don’t think there is any truth that we are in for Pepe. If we have any designs on getting Sancho at all next summer then why would we buy Pepe now.
Like who? Who could we get at the level of Sancho? Also, what players are available on loan that would improve us? Even with Bale, Madrid would want a permanent transfer.
Realistically speaking there isn't anyone at the level of Sancho (Sancho included) available this summer. So, the question is whether we don't sign a right wing/forward this summer (even if we sell Lukaku) whilst hoping Sancho joins next summer or we go for a player like Pepe this summer.
Bernardo has clearly been bought to be the successor to David Silva. To boot we aren’t Man City and can’t afford to spend let’s say 200+ mil on 2 players for one position. Just makes no sense.
Lingard has amazing highlights like so I’m not one for going off *clips*I'm sick and tired of reading about Zaha in every other thread. That guy was fecking trash for us and hasn't done anything since then to warrant a bunch of muppets on here to scream for his signing and compare him to every winger out there. For what it's worth some of these passes in that clip Zaha could only dream of.
We literally have one right winger who’s 19 and has about 3 senior appearances. It’s really not hard to be good enough for our RW spot right now.Pepe is good enough for United
Some of you are delusional!
Last seasonLingard has amazing highlights like so I’m not one for going off *clips*
he looks like your standard above average winger might be better than Lingard but for 70 mil I want more
Agreed, I think not properly replacing Lukaku (if we are to sell) is a huge risk. We currently have more than enough options, but we're lacking in quality. Pepe would add another dynamic to our right side that we don't currently have. I much prefer Sancho and I do have reservations on Pepe's technical ability but I think he would be a very good option to have for next season.I think not going for Pepe this summer will leave us light in the forward department especially if Lukaku leaves. Ole seems to be looking for inverted wingers with the full backs providing the width. Pepe and AWB could forge that partnership. Jadon Sancho is a tricky one because if he has a phenomenal season, his stock will rise to around 120m and if Real and PSG continue to have crappy seasons, they will throw crazy money at him and even United make the CL, that's not going to be enough to get him here. I think going for Pepe this season is a good idea... He has the ability to play RW as well as RF/ ST which gives us options. So that should not deter us from getting Sancho if need be...
Malcom is a shout on a loan. The other problem is that there are no guarantees that we will sign Sancho next summer. I'm sure we will be in for him, but if he continues to impress, you can bet that there will be plenty of other teams involved. If the scouts/Ole believes that Pepe would help out for the coming season, I'm all for it. Even if Sancho comes in next season, he can easily play anywhere behind the striker, so he'd still have a place in the team.I’d rather sign a cheaper one unless he’s a sure bet. Trying to get Malcom on a fee-paying loan might be plausible. Or getting a more experienced player who could give us a couple of years and then go for a top class one next summer, i.e. Sancho.
I currently don’t but then I live in the real world.Then dont expect more than 4th place.
Sancho.Last season
Pepe - 33 goals and assists - average rating 7.62
Lingard - 6 goals and assists - average rating 6.59
What more do you want?
You fools, don't you know that Pepe bad and Sancho is the ONLY player who can improve us and he is guaranteed to sign next season.
Agreed, I think not properly replacing Lukaku (if we are to sell) is a huge risk. We currently have more than enough options, but we're lacking in quality. Pepe would add another dynamic to our right side that we don't currently have. I much prefer Sancho and I do have reservations on Pepe's technical ability but I think he would be a very good option to have for next season.
Malcom is a shout on a loan. The other problem is that there are no guarantees that we will sign Sancho next summer. I'm sure we will be in for him, but if he continues to impress, you can bet that there will be plenty of other teams involved. If the scouts/Ole believes that Pepe would help out for the coming season, I'm all for it. Even if Sancho comes in next season, he can easily play anywhere behind the striker, so he'd still have a place in the team.
That's my problem with it. I'm hopeful Gomes and Chong continue to progress, and maybe James will be a great purchase as well. Pepe is hardly a #10, I've only seen him play out on the right wing. I don't see how Sancho and Pepe fit in the same team whilst also giving games to our promising youngsters. Hence my preference to either get a potentially elite player there or a short-term fix until we get an absolute top drawer player for the much maligned right side of attack.
Because it’s that simple? You can’t compare the French and English leagueLast season
Pepe - 33 goals and assists - average rating 7.62
Lingard - 6 goals and assists - average rating 6.59
What more do you want?
Because it’s that simple? You can’t compare the French and English league
Lingard would double his stats in that Mickey Mouse league
Zlatan at psg season before his move to us
38 goals in 31 games and 13 assists
The next season for Utd
17 goals and 5 assists