Nice One Boys

Unfortunately I don't get to many games every season but I think its maybe time for those who do to show respect and loyaltly to Giggs to the same amount that he has shown us down through the years! How about a few chorus's of "Ryan Giggs Runnin' Down the Wing", "Giggs will tear you apart" and "Vieira Woah Oh..." for the next match and particularly the next home game! C'mon lads lets get behind one of the greatest players in our history!!!!
 
Originally posted by Nate:
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Give what up?

I have no agenda, dont get so fecking touchy mate.</strong><hr></blockquote>

agenda? you aren't making any sense whatsoever.

stop this davo style stuff, it doesn't suit you.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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So we can boo him instead. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

I thought that.
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
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agenda? you aren't making any sense whatsoever.

stop this davo style stuff, it doesn't suit you.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

My point is at some point someone has to take some blame.

Booing the player is wrong, but someone has to pick up the slack.
 
Originally posted by Diego Forlans Headband:
<strong>Unfortunately I don't get to many games every season but I think its maybe time for those who do to show respect and loyaltly to Giggs to the same amount that he has shown us down through the years! How about a few chorus's of "Ryan Giggs Runnin' Down the Wing", "Giggs will tear you apart" and "Vieira Woah Oh..." for the next match and particularly the next home game! C'mon lads lets get behind one of the greatest players in our history!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly, that's what they should be doing!
 
Originally posted by Nate:
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Even though without the fans he wouldn't be there?

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Can't agree with that one Nate.

Whilst the fans are ultimately responsible for footing the bill for the players wages, it's not down to the fans that Giggs plays - that's been down to his ability.
 
Originally posted by Nate:
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My point is at some point someone has to take some blame.

Booing the player is wrong, but someone has to pick up the slack.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Simple, if he's off form, he should be benched. Who to replace him with is a different topic of conversation.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Can't agree with that one Nate.

Whilst the fans are ultimately responsible for footing the bill for the players wages, it's not down to the fans that Giggs plays - that's been down to his ability.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree with that. But without paying fans going every week there wouldn't be a club.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Simple, if he's off form, he should be benched. Who to replace him with is a different topic of conversation.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hasn't he been benched though?
 
Originally posted by Nate:
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My point is at some point someone has to take some blame.

Booing the player is wrong, but someone has to pick up the slack.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Why?

would you say its understandable to boo murphy(after a bad game), for example, if your team didn't win?

someone has to take the blame afterall.
 
Originally posted by Nate:
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Hasn't he been benched though?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not the way Beckham was last season.
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
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Why?

would you say its understandable to boo murphy(after a bad game), for example, if your team didn't win?

someone has to take the blame afterall.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Its happened before I think, as has it with Heskey.

Its wrong like I said, the manager picks the team etc, its up to him surely?

Too many people have plenty to say about the problems, but not many offer answers.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Not the way Beckham was last season.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't understand why though?

Whats different about them?
 
Originally posted by Nate:
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I don't understand why though?

Whats different about them?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Giggs is SAFs personal adopted son.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Giggs is SAFs personal adopted son.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That'll be it then.
 
I think this booing stuff is a bit overstated, I was there last night and although any so called fan booing his own player is disgraceful it certainly wasn't general around the ground, there was some derogatory noise as Giggs left and applause as Ole came on. We've got too many idiots at OT who don't know they're supposed to be there to support the team. Giggs had another poor game by his standards but fans getting on his back won't do his confidence any good. I guess it's up to the rest of us to make more supportive noise than the muppets.
 
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/2638325.stm" target="_blank">Interesting piece!</a>
 
Booing is part of football, it happens all over the world - or had some of you not noticed? Now why bother debating whether a booer is a "proper fan" or not? It seems like debates on here are more often than not some sort of contest to prove oneself to be a better than others and then to polish your halos once you have done so. It happens, get over it. Giggs should be man enough not to let it bother him and keep on putting in the effort every week.
 
Report from BBC:
Who would have thought it - the substitution of Ryan Giggs being greeted with relief at Old Trafford?

Giggs' Man Utd honours
Premiership: 1993, '94, '96, '97, '99, 2000, 2001

FA Cup: 1994, '96, '99

League Cup: 1992

Champions League: 1999

Tuesday night's Worthington Cup tie with Blackburn Rovers saw a large section of the Manchester United crowd cheering Giggs' 74th minute withdrawal.

Giggs has not been enjoying the best of seasons on the pitch, and has admitted that his away form has been better than his form at Old Trafford.

But jeers? This is a player who, over the past decade, has arguably made a bigger contribution to United's dominance of the domestic game than any other.

The trajectory of Giggs' United career follows that of the club almost exactly.


He made his debut almost 12 years ago, at a time when United had won a solitary FA Cup under Alex Ferguson.

Since then he has been integral to the winning of seven league titles, three FA Cups, one League Cup, one Intercontinental Cup and the holy grail of the Champions League.

Are we truly to believe that, at the age of 29, certain United supporters would like to see him go?

In the early 1990s, Giggs was David Beckham before Beckham was even holding down a place in the United first team.

If you put his face on the cover of a football magazine, it guaranteed you the biggest sales of the year.

Why? Men would buy it to read about "the new Best" and girls bought it because they wanted his face all over their bedroom walls.

Giggs had the million-pound boot deal (Reebok), the lucrative sponsorship deals in the Far East (Fuji) and the celebrity girlfriends (Dani Behr, Davina Murphy) at a time when Becks was being sent on loan to Preston.


Look again at those early comparisons with George Best and the current criticism seems even less justified.

By 26, Best was finished, having won five fewer league championships than Giggs has with years of his career to go.

Giggs burst into the nation's consciousness by playing as we remembered Best, weaving his way past defenders with the ball seemingly glued to his toe.

He scored goals - like the one at Spurs in 1993 - by making accomplished defenders look like idiots.

His style may have changed slightly - but for the better.

The Giggs of today is a more rounded footballer than that skinny youngster, no longer relying just on pace and trickery out on the wing to make an impact.

Compare him with another Old Trafford youngster who burned brightly at the start of the 1990s, Lee Sharpe.

Sharpe was never able to develop his game beyond that which first brought him to prominence, never able to reproduce his early success over a long period.

Giggs may not be at his best as this year begins.

But he remains integral to Ferguson's plans, particularly in Europe where his presence on the United left is key to their hopes of another Champions League triumph.

Even the greatest suffer slumps in form. Look at Beckham this time last year. Giggs will be back

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Giggs waves to the United fans after the Champions League triumph of 1999
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/2638325.stm" target="_blank">Interesting piece!</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

sorry WeasteDevil looks like we replied in the same time <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
 
He was rightly substituted last night. He looked totally out of sorts. There is definately a confidence problem. Trouble is Giggs used to be a lot more involved in set pieces. Now Beckham takes everything including pens when RVN isn't there. A couple of decent runs with the ball, some good corners that get scored from, an odd free-kick from the right resulting hopefully in a couple of goals plus some assists is all he needs. He needs to be given more responsibility.
 
Interesting. I often think Beckham should let a couple of the others have a set piece more often than he does, but percentage wise I'll bet Beckham is a better bet to take most of them. Last night Veron took two corners from the left in the 2nd half - both were crap, then Beckham took the following two, of which the first posed real danger to Blackburn and the second found a player deep in the box. Bothe Veron's went nowhere. Giggs had a set piece on the right of the area I seem to remember - it went straight to the first defender and was headed clear. But most baffling for me was the free kick in front of goal that Beckham set up for Scholes to have a bang - things is Scholes doesn't ever score from those set piece situations - he's more the opportunist. It's perhaps that type of situation where Beckham might give way to Giggs and allow him to try and start scoring free kicks like he did that first time we won the league against Blackburn in the last game of the season.

EDIT in bold
 
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Booing is part of football, it happens all over the world - .</strong><hr></blockquote>

Muppet Alert.
 
It's a fecking discrace. If Giggs never plays a good game again for Man United, he doesn't deserve this treatment from the 'fans' - he's a Man United legend, and a Man United legend should never be booed!
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
<strong>It's a fecking discrace. If Giggs never plays a good game again for Man United, he doesn't deserve this treatment from the 'fans' - he's a Man United legend, and a Man United legend should never be booed!</strong><hr></blockquote>

But the point is he was. So what? What's anyone gonna do about it bar spout off about it in a rather self righteous manner on an internet forum? Nothing. Let him get on with it - he's already said as much as he doesn't consider them "real" fans anyway - which is hardly gonna put paid to the booing but still.....my point is that it happens and it inevitably always will won't it?
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
<strong> and a Man United legend should never be booed!</strong><hr></blockquote>

a United player should never be booed IMO
 
I sat in front of an irish geezer who did nothing but throw abuse at giggs everytime he got the ball, i eventually had to turn around and tell him to f*** off.........all players go through the sort of dip in form that Giggs is currently experiencing, and support is what he needs from the fans, not critisism.
 
Originally posted by 26 may 1999:
<strong>Have you ever been to Old Trafford Dans?</strong><hr></blockquote>

What's your point?
 
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Booing is part of football, it happens all over the world - or had some of you not noticed? Now why bother debating whether a booer is a "proper fan" or not? It seems like debates on here are more often than not some sort of contest to prove oneself to be a better than others and then to polish your halos once you have done so. It happens, get over it. Giggs should be man enough not to let it bother him and keep on putting in the effort every week.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
The fecking point is it happens and what purpose is served by people coming on here and spouting off about it making themselves out to be perfect fans? I'd suggest the latter is the point in some cases.
 
Originally posted by 26 may 1999:
<strong>Are you some kind of diplomat?

Answer the question.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by roxyfella:
<strong>I sat in front of an irish geezer who did nothing but throw abuse at giggs everytime he got the ball, i eventually had to turn around and tell him to f*** off.........all players go through the sort of dip in form that Giggs is currently experiencing, and support is what he needs from the fans, not critisism.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Interesting that. I know of another Irishman who can't abide Giggs. Can it be that they've taken their cue from Roy's veiled criticism pruportedly directed at Giggs at the end of last season, or is that taking generalisation too far ?
 
I was first row scoreboard and although I heard the usual criticism of a player having a bad time I never heard anyone boo or jeer when Giggsy went off.The applause was the usual event that happens when were up against it and a change for the better is being made.

The press as usual are blowing it out of all proportion,on soccer night last night they said that uniteds support was passionate yet to my ears we were outsung by Blackburn due probably to a large amount of daytrippers and today on sky you would think Blackburn had won because of the huge advantage they now have?
 
Kinell, you'd think I was there leading the booers by your reactions (which I wasn't 26). Booing happens at football matches. Sydius, why are you wagging your finger?
 
Originally posted by roxyfella:
<strong>I sat in front of an irish geezer who did nothing but throw abuse at giggs everytime he got the ball, i eventually had to turn around and tell him to f*** off.........all players go through the sort of dip in form that Giggs is currently experiencing, and support is what he needs from the fans, not critisism.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good on ya. We need to stand up to these tossers. Either smack some sense into them or out sing them so that they can't be heard.
 
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>It seems like debates on here are more often than not some sort of contest to prove oneself to be a better than others and then to polish your halos once you have done so. </strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd certainly agree with that.