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At this point Eli Manning is who he is. Think it's all on the GM and owners for deciding to go with him.

its incredible that he will be in the hall of fame though. he's never been a top 5 quarterback in any year

here are his DVOA ranks starting in his first full year as a starter (2005)

  • 17th
  • 16th
  • 34th
  • 9th
  • 10th
  • 20th
  • 9th
  • 13th
  • 38th
  • 16th
  • 19th
  • 20th
  • 23rd
  • 22nd


truly one of the most overrated players ever
 
its incredible that he will be in the hall of fame though. he's never been a top 5 quarterback in any year

here are his DVOA ranks starting in his first full year as a starter (2005)

  • 17th
  • 16th
  • 34th
  • 9th
  • 10th
  • 20th
  • 9th
  • 13th
  • 38th
  • 16th
  • 19th
  • 20th
  • 23rd
  • 22nd


truly one of the most overrated players ever

If you think he never was that good to begin with that's even more of an indictment on the GM and owners.
 
Coming off 377 yards and a 95 passer rating, if I were Keenum and they did that, I’d ask for a trade and steal the playbook.

You don't think he's a part of the problem? That air shot over DT that should have won the game Vs KC was a shocker and he's doing that a lot.
 
Giants suck but Barkley looks a hell of a player.

They need to move on from Eli, he’s finished.
 
Who is going to the games?

We should do a RedCafe drink :lol:

I'm going to the Seattle v Oackland and Jacksonville v Philly games; I'm going with a bunch of friends though so probably won't be able to meet up for a drink.
 
I'm done with the sarcastic I believe in Eli posts. Guy is done, D-O-N-E. Need to tank and go for Herbert or Lock in the draft next year. Receiving core is incredible and they have a legit top 5 back. Thanks for the memories Eli but your time is up. Feel free to go play out your remaining days in Arizona or Tennessee or whoever will have you.
 
its incredible that he will be in the hall of fame though. he's never been a top 5 quarterback in any year

here are his DVOA ranks starting in his first full year as a starter (2005)

  • 17th
  • 16th
  • 34th
  • 9th
  • 10th
  • 20th
  • 9th
  • 13th
  • 38th
  • 16th
  • 19th
  • 20th
  • 23rd
  • 22nd


truly one of the most overrated players ever
Still beat the Pats twice tho.
 
Nah, I want the Giants to be good, they're certainly cooler than the rest of the NFC East. They could have one of the best offenses in the entire league if they had a capable QB and could be so fun to watch with their receiving weapons and a electric rookie running back (who is on course to break Hunt's 7-game streak of 100+ scrimmage yards as a rookie btw). They could be the Steelers of the last two years if they had a QB like Big Ben rather than Eli.

If there are some college QBs worth taking in the draft next year they should be thinking about tanking this season, they won't make the playoffs anyway at 1-5 even if their division is a bit crap this year. Would be (another) wasted year for OBJ and Barkley but rather do that than stick with Eli for another few years and ruin the best years of your All-Pro WR and soon to be Pro Bowl RB. Although understandable given the money involved, I would've thought Beckham didn't want to sign a new contract and rather join a SB contender when he would've hit FA. He shouldn't act out now - he knew what he was getting into when he signed the extension with Eli still as his QB.
 
You don't think he's a part of the problem? That air shot over DT that should have won the game Vs KC was a shocker and he's doing that a lot.
I think the problem is his strengths aren’t being used, leading to him being less effective than he could be.

I think that about the offense in general as well.

The O and Keenum are built to run the ball and pass off play action. We’re near the bottom of the league at actually doing that though.
 
I think the problem is his strengths aren’t being used, leading to him being less effective than he could be.

I think that about the offense in general as well.

The O and Keenum are built to run the ball and pass off play action. We’re near the bottom of the league at actually doing that though.

Don't get me wrong, I think the coaching staff are the biggest problem we have at the moment, but I have been very disappointed with Keenum after initially getting on board with the idea of bringing him in.

Putting the scheme issues to one side for the moment, he's thrown more picks than TDs and has a habit of throwing the ball way too high. He's also taken a number of sacks where for me he had plenty of time to throw it away and not lose the yards. Boles hasn't helped him out in that regard though.

I dunno, I just don't see things turning around based on what we're seeing so I think the opportunity to give Kelly a test should be considered as there's little risk of it getting worse than it already is.
 
I dunno, I just don't see things turning around based on what we're seeing so I think the opportunity to give Kelly a test should be considered as there's little risk of it getting worse than it already is.
The thing about Kelly though is that he looked pretty good in the preseason against backups running base defenses.
 
The thing about Kelly though is that he looked pretty good in the preseason against backups running base defenses.

Oh for sure, I'm not saying I think he's gonna set things on fire, I'm just saying I'm up for seeing how he does.

Plus it'd be cool to be the first team to give a Mr Irrelevant an NFL start :lol:
 
Hard to judge the Eagles performance because of how bad G men were but Wentz is starting to look very good which is a major positive
 
I'm going to the Seattle v Oackland and Jacksonville v Philly games; I'm going with a bunch of friends though so probably won't be able to meet up for a drink.

Yeah, I realised it’s the same for me but did not think about that when I made the post :lol:

Same two games I’m going to too. Sadly missing the Titans matchup as in Abu Dhabi. First game in London I’ll be missing in like 4y :(
 
I will be going for Eagles Jags and would like to meetup for a drink pre match if anyone is interested
 
Was at the game last night and the mood was toxic all over. Not a good sports week for New York. Also, I have never seen so many fans talk shit to each other where everyone is trying to wind each other up. Great people watching :lol:
 
I'm done with the sarcastic I believe in Eli posts. Guy is done, D-O-N-E. Need to tank and go for Herbert or Lock in the draft next year. Receiving core is incredible and they have a legit top 5 back. Thanks for the memories Eli but your time is up. Feel free to go play out your remaining days in Arizona or Tennessee or whoever will have you.

Not sure you need to tank, the other teams that will have similar records at the end of the season have already taken a new QB this year. Whether Washington, Denver, Miami, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville and Oakland realise that they need a new QB remains to be seen. Wouldn't surprise me, if most of those teams don't move on from their QBs. Pittsburgh and the Chargers will have too good of a record to take one of the better QBs. You should be able to take the best QB.
 
Just got to know that I got mugged off with a fake ticket for the Eagles game, apparently this guy did a lot of guys on twitter . I am so pissed about the money lost as well as the fact that I was really excited to watch the Eagles & my first NFL game
 
A few people on Twitter saying they "worked him out" so didn't get scammed. What as the deal?

It wasn't really a deal , he was an Eagles fan who I was following for a while . After the tickets came out he claimed to have a few and said that he would only sell them to Eagles fans. A lot of people like me were just foolish & desperate so we didn't doubt him at all , he didn't even disappear till like 5 days back .
 
It wasn't really a deal , he was an Eagles fan who I was following for a while . After the tickets came out he claimed to have a few and said that he would only sell them to Eagles fans. A lot of people like me were just foolish & desperate so we didn't doubt him at all , he didn't even disappear till like 5 days back .

How did you pay him?
 
Just got to know that I got mugged off with a fake ticket for the Eagles game, apparently this guy did a lot of guys on twitter . I am so pissed about the money lost as well as the fact that I was really excited to watch the Eagles & my first NFL game
Thats shit mate, sorry to hear.