You mean QBs who are actually good. There's little indication that the likes of Darnold, Allen, Rosen et al will ever be at Goff's level. Mayfield may be over the next year or two, but that's also a bit iffy.
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You mean QBs who are actually good. There's little indication that the likes of Darnold, Allen, Rosen et al will ever be at Goff's level. Mayfield may be over the next year or two, but that's also a bit iffy.
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Which is why you pick QBs until you've found a good one. There's no point having Foles, Bridgewater, Keenum, Dalton, Tannehill, Taylor or Carr on relatively big contracts, if they eat up your cap space and aren't actually worth it. There's a reason the Chiefs let Smith go after a career year. Finding rookie QBs that are as good as those guys shouldn't be that difficult. Darnold, Rosen and Jackson could be those players. They'd be more valuable than someone like Keenum or Carr. Raiders for example should have traded Carr.
There's no hard and fast rule for this. You can just as easily find examples of veteran QBs joining teams and winning super bowls. Look at Brees, Manning, even Foles. This year you have the potential for Cousins. The trick is the get the best players available who can play in a good coach's preferred system. The rest is simply coaching and execution.
Brees isn't the same as the players I've mentioned. Paying QBs like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Wilson, Ryan, Rivers and Luck makes sense, since they are good enough to justify their hefty contracts. Foles was surrounded by the best o-line, best d-line, one of the best defences in general, a great receiving core with Ertz, Jeffery and Agholor, a good RB committee and excellent play calling. He obviously had to play well, too, but I'm fairly sure the Eagles are happy to start with Wentz again. Point is, that it makes no sense for the Giants to trade for an average to decent QB, who will earn quite a bit, if you can get the same from a rookie QB on a better contract for your team, while being able to go after better player in free agency, since you have more cap space.
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Swap Brady with Rodgers from, say, 2008 until now. Does he win more with the Packers? Does Rodgers win less with the Patriots?
Maybe you can, maybe you can't. At least with veteran QBs you know they have already proven themselves to some degree in the league. You don't have that sort of guarantee with young QBs in the draft. See David Carr, Leftwich, Harrington, Leinart, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Mark Sanchez, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, RGIII, and Winston. All have gone in the top 10 since 2000 and are/were mediocre or complete busts. Then look for example at the model the Broncos won the Super Bowl with and what the Vikings are pursuing this year. There is no one size fits all approach that each team pursues because they are all in different situations that may require a different approach to the sort of players they need in the present.
the simple answer is that the market rate for quarterbacks is higher than the first round salary slot while the market rate for running backs is lower than the first round salary slot.
Like Eli Manning, Roethlisberger, Dalton, Bortles, Tannehill and Flacco? If the Ravens would bin Flacco and invest elsewhere, they'd be better off. Once Pittsburgh are finally rid of Roethlisberger, they actually might win the super bowl again. They have arguably the best receiving core in the league with Brown, Smith-Schuster, Washington and their tight ends. On top of that their o-line has been excellent for years, which is why it has never mattered when Bell was out. Nonetheless they have had good RBs. Still the Patriots or the Chiefs are going to win the AFC (could be wrong on that one), since they have better QBs and employ probably smarter decision makers in terms of their roster management. Manning has been bad for years, terrible offensive line or not. I mean he has the generational RB in Barkley (who's following generational talents such as Elliott and Fournette) and an excellent receiving core with Beckham Jr., Shepard and Evan Engram. It means feck all. Their offence is just terrible, which is mostly because of him and probably not the best play calling. Broncos won the super bowl despite Peyton Manning and because of their defence. The less said about Bortles the better. The Bengals and Dolphins aren't going to win anything as long as Dalton and Tannehill are on those contracts.
I don't know about that one. They were fairly mediocre before 2012 and resumed being mediocre immediately after he retired. Having a great D only means something when you have an offense that can put up points.
they were the 25th ranked offense by DVOA the year they won. they were 19th in points scored. they scored 30+ points twice in 19 games. manning threw for 176 yards in the AFC championship and 141 in the super bowl. he was done and the defense dragged him across the line.
Goff didn't exactly look like he'd make the cut during his rookie year.
Manning's 2015 season was one of the worst statistically and advanced metrics QB to start/win a Super Bowl. He was so bad early on that Osweiler took over and statistically performed better. Denver's win was entirely on the defense and running game. Heck, put Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, etc. on that 2015 Broncos team and they may have gone undefeated so good was that defense.
That's true but that was just the 2015 season where he was already on the cusp of retirement and was also injured for the final stretch. If you look at his entire 3.5 years in Denver and compare the couple of years before he arrived and the two after her retired, its fairly obvious that he was the catalyst (along with the D) that pushed them to two super bowl appearances in his 3.5 years there.
he pushed them to one super bowl, not two. as multiple people have shown above
They made two appearances and won one. Compare those results to Denver's results the preceding two years before he arrived and the two years after he left and its pretty clear he was the primary driver of their success during his 3 and a half years worth of games there.
ive never met someone who was always right before.
Worth pointing out that signing Peyton Manning isn't the same as signing Foles or Bridgewater as you suggested earlier.
At least, we'll have the Number 1 draft pick for this season.
The Broncos kicked their way to the Super Bowl in 2015, McManus was the only functioning part of our offense. Manning himself has said the D carried him to the Super Bowl.
Manning led Denver to SB48, as much as I love him he definitely didn't lead them to 50. Although when he came back in to replace Brock in week 17 it did give the whole team and the fans a massive lift in energy.
Ty with the biggest dumbass moment since Bostick. Ugh.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000980254/article/rodgers-doesnt-get-chance-at-hollywood-ending
If this is true, Ty should have been cut by now.
If this is true, Ty should have been cut by now.
Wow, having a hissy fit, then going against coaches orders and then cocking it up? That's surely cut worthy.
Hard to believe that the coaches order was to bring it out . Never know with Packers coaches though
Hue Jackson finally sacked. A 3-36-1 record 
Unsurprising. Let’s hope they can lure Arians out of retirement. Or what’s their cap space? Throw all the money they have to mcVay and let him work his magic.
Fully expect them to hire John Fox or Jeff Fisher though, it’s the Browns after all.
Fully expect them to hire John Fox or Jeff Fisher though, it’s the Browns after all.
Criminal. I think they managed to lose a game in which they forced 6 TOs this season, mind boggling. Put a capable coach in charge from the start of the season and they could/should be 6-2 or something. It's not like they don't have good pieces on offence either, and their defence is very young but already a very good one.
Understand Jackson’s sacking but why now, hardly makes sense.
Took em long enough....
They should hire Lincoln Riley.
Shut up.
Chip Kelly needed
Dont feel bad, then you can hire Jeff Brohm. I've got it all worked out.
It‘s amazing Jackson had a job for this long. This team has been underperforming for so long.
The Browns will be pretty good very soon.
Now they’ll obviously hire another idiot and rebuild again.
The Browns will be pretty good very soon.
Now they’ll obviously hire another idiot and rebuild again.
If Damaruius Thomas is traded to the goddam Patriots I will personally tweet very mean things to John Elway.