NFL Thread 2019
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What a Superbowl. The half time show wasn't bad either 
So it had nothing to do with the horrendous play calling in the second half?
I get the Favre comparisons with his improvisation, but I think a better tag for Mahomes is the next Elway.
He is 10 times the player elway was
Elway was the greatest QB ever before Brady fluked his way into enough SB wins so that isn’t even scientifically possible.
Holy cow. As a former Broncos season ticket holder during the Elway years, this may be the most ridiculous statement I have seen in a long time. Up until the mid-90's his best receiver was Vance Johnson and his best tight end was Clarence Kay. The late 80's was spent with Dan Reeves calling 2 runs totaling 3 yards then Elway having to create something on 3rd down. Over and over and over again. I could not imagine how much he would have won if he had the 49ers team and coaching staff to play with.
Elway is the 2nd most overrated QB of all-time
Were some areas in the upper tiers closed off or just unsold tickets? Was surprised to see empty seats for s Super Bowl but considering the prices maybe not.
Was quite a good atmosphere though.
Was quite a good atmosphere though.
I guess I'm used to watching hype jobs flop on the big stage I felt Mahomes would be the same as Cam,Goff and Lamar .
He looked nervous at times and the 49rs defence were magnificent and had him under so much pressure .
However he took it and came back at them and won the game for the Chiefs . He deserves all the hype he gets and is the real deal
He looked nervous at times and the 49rs defence were magnificent and had him under so much pressure .
However he took it and came back at them and won the game for the Chiefs . He deserves all the hype he gets and is the real deal
Didn’t see the areas you were referring to, but there’s never empty seats/unsold tickets at a Super Bowl. Many attending are actually corporate sponsors (not actual fans) which usually make for subdued atmospheres.
Mahomes is like a cross between Russell Wilson and an elite Aaron Rodgers. He’s got the ability to make something happen when a play breaks down a la Russ and blessed with the arm of a Rodgers or Marino. Amazing player.
What a Superbowl. The half time show wasn't bad either
Yep. Miles better than last years snore fest!
Early days, but Mahomes comfortably has enough talent to be the best ever. He’s shown he can pretty much do anything that all of the greats in the past have done and I can’t think of anyone in the past who checks every one of the things that tend to make QBs great. Mahomes literally has it all and each attribute at such a high level.
The only thing now missing is rings (multiple) and longevity. If he for example has a career as long as Brady’s, he IMO would comfortably sit atop the all time QB rankings, if he can remotely remain at as high a level as he’s shown. He could even drop a level and still be up there.
I’ve said it before, his potential is astronomical to the extent he could rewrite the script on what is considered a “great” year or career. Think about what pace he was on this year before his injury.
That’s why I was rooting for the chiefs because this guy is generational and seeing someone like that succeed is just a good story.
I don’t want to start a Rodgers vs Mahomes debate but @Rado_N if you recall we discussed earlier this season if Mahomes has more talent then Rodgers. I think that question is firmly answered.
Did we?! Jesus my memory is appalling!
i think this question was already answered within the first season of play we saw from Mahomes.
I might be the biggest Rodgers homer on this forum, but I have to agree. A bit more experience, and he'll be the best to ever play.
As it stands I would still pick '04 Peyton or '11 Rodgers as the apex of quarterback ability.
Marino is better than Elway and Cousins is better than Garappolo.
I’d imagine so. Marino looks like he’s aged well.
Yup. Last years was probably the worst I can remember in my lifetime tbh.
Those "seats" in the upper endzone were press tables so you can't really see the people. Every other row of seats is covered up to create press tables and that's where the press sit so it actually looks like empty seats but there are folks there. Similar to what they did for the super bowl in New Orleans:
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And he's only turned 24. Insane
Chiefs need to build a team to help him. Packers failed and wasted Rodgers prime years without keeping a strong D. And as good as Mahomes is he needs more than one target deep to continue adding rings
The entire 9ers team was awful in that 4th quarter. I think Mostert was the only one that made a couple of first downs.
He's really not.
He might END UP being the better of the two (though even with two excellent seasons behind him, that's no guarantee) but so far, Elways' ability and legacy are miles better.
Maybe not a perfect comparison, but Elway was similar to Bryan Robson for us..... a great player that at times carried 'ok' teams to much greater achievements than would have otherwise been possible.
It's a stats driven game so go on, humour us, and provide the numbers to show the 10x
The hype and buzz around Mahomes is nothing short of over the top, but that's what the NFL PR machine (i.e. ESPN) wants everyone to buy into. Fact is, Mahomes had a poor game by his standards. MVP should have been his teammate, Damien Williams...hands down.
The ten times is clearly a tongue-in-cheek exaggeration. He's way above and beyond Elway in quarterback ability however.
Elway was never the best QB in the league. He had talent, yes, but he was nowhere near as good as his legacy suggests.
Still better than Brady but it's marginal.
Elway was never the best QB in the league. He had talent, yes, but he was nowhere near as good as his legacy suggests.
Still better than Brady but it's marginal.
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The guy is overrated. He had talent, he had a nice career, but he's not close to the ability of mahomes.
It's like saying Kevin McHale is better than Anthony Davis.
The guy is overrated. He had talent, he had a nice career, but he's not close to the ability of mahomes.
It's like saying Kevin McHale is better than Anthony Davis.
No way. Mahomes was the right choice.
That’s a good one. Always had a soft spot for Andy Reid.
Have you been reading this?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/778095-john-elway-why-hes-the-most-overrated-athlete-of-all-time
That article is garbage.
I didn't write it!
Out of interest, what is it about Elway that you think is overrated? One particular aspect of a few?