I'm not bitter. I'm right about the pass interference.
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Yeah, I agree that's pretty silly. Tbh, I just copied the links to the first couple of articles that popped up when I googled "romo's biggest mistakes".
May well have been. I actually thought there was a rule about face guarding but apparently not. Pettigrew did get away with a facemask there. If anything, that should have been off-setting. Maybe Caldwell should have gone for it on 4-and-1 in Dallas territory against a woeful Dallas defense after the reversed call. Maybe the Detroit defense shouldn't have allowed Dallas to score more points thereafter. Maybe the punter shouldn't have shanked his punt. Lots of maybes.
Caldwell definitely should have gone for it. He's a pussy. I've been against Caldwell's hiring since...before he was hired.
Well he's no Wayne Fontes, so....
One of those good guys, let's reward him types. I still don't like Garrett as a HC, and it's in spite of him this side has done well. I wanted Lovie (I'm giving him a pass for 2014 Tampa Bay debacle) and I think he'd be a fantastic coach in Dallas.
One of those good guys, let's reward him types. I still don't like Garrett as a HC, and it's in spite of him this side has done well. I wanted Lovie (I'm giving him a pass for 2014 Tampa Bay debacle) and I think he'd be a fantastic coach in Dallas.
How am I a "bitter" or a "hater"? As I've already stated, Romo seems like a good guy and got nothing against him personally. There is no other position in any professional sport (except possibly a starting pitcher in baseball), where success is more dependent on a single position than an NFL QB. It stands to reason that QBs will get most of the praise when their teams win, as well as the bulk of the criticism when they lose. Since you're making the argument that Romo isn't a choker, I can only assume that you don't believe in the concept of choking or conversely being "clutch". Because you'd be hard-pressed to come up with a NFL QB in the past 10-15 years who's been a bigger choker than Romo. The fact he's uber-talented, only highlights this more. The guy caves under the pressure in the biggest moments, and makes bone-headed decisions. He's the exact opposite of a Joe Montana or a Derek Jeter.
I'm not convinced Romo is a choker. I just don't he's very good.
Oh there's plenty of QBs that have "choked" more so than Romo. Numerous QBs haven't managed to lead his side to the playoffs. Numerous QBs haven't managed to win 60% of their career starts. Then we have top class QBs and all-time greats that haven't fared so well in the playoffs.
Dalton: 0-4 in the playoffs with some atrocious performances, the kind most imagine Romo having had.
Stafford: 0-17 against .500 opposition on the road (3-32 home and away), and now 0-2 in the playoffs.
Marino: 8-10 in the playoffs (I rate Marino very high - he would have four or more in San Fran vacuum (same for Elway))
Fouts: 3-4 in the playoffs with no SB appearance (I rate Fouts high too albeit his career was ending by the time I was getting into the sport)
Then we have scrubs like Dilfer who went 5-1 in the postseason and won the SB. Dilfer must be clutch! Or Eli Manning having more SB wins than his brother and a few other all-time greats despite being nowhere near as good as them. This shows how it's a team game. A clutch play but a RB or a defensive player can overshadow an abysmal or subpar performance by a QB. Yet the QB gets the credit or blame. And some QBs make a play late in a game when having been shit the entire game (see Tim Tebow).
Then there's the greatest regular season (statistically) QB ever, Payton Manning. Yet he's 11-12 in the postseason with the following interesting stats (as Bill Simmons pointed out; Patriots homer that he is)... Would you say Manning chokes? Or does the slate get wiped when winning one Super Bowl despite putting up some woeful statistics (3 tds, 7 ints) during that run?
Q: Did you know Peyton Manning has to win the Super Bowl this year to push his career playoff record above .500?
—Augie, Irvine
BS: Did you know Peyton Manning has lost more playoff games (12) than any quarterback ever? Did you know he’s 1-2 in the Super Bowl, and that he lost those two games by a combined 49 points? Did you know Manning’s regular-season passer rating (97.5) is 8.3 points higher than his playoff rating (89.2), even though he played 30 percent of those playoff games on the road? Did you know that Manning’s team was favored in 10 of his 12 playoff losses? Did you know he has more one-and-done postseasons (eight) than any other QB ever? Did you know he has only one game-winning drive in the playoffs? Did you know he’s lost playoff games to Jay Fiedler, Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington? Did you know he threw three touchdowns and seven picks during his one Super Bowl–winning playoff run? Did you know that he’s 2-5 in outdoor playoff games on the road, with those two wins coming against Trent Green and a washed-up Steve McNair? Did you know that he destroyed the 2013 Pats to the tune of 400 yards, 2 TDs, 0 picks and a 118.4 passer rating and I should immediately shut up?
Dalton: 0-4 in the playoffs with some atrocious performances, the kind most imagine Romo having had.
Stafford: 0-17 against .500 opposition on the road (3-32 home and away), and now 0-2 in the playoffs.
Marino: 8-10 in the playoffs (I rate Marino very high - he would have four or more in San Fran vacuum (same for Elway))
Fouts: 3-4 in the playoffs with no SB appearance (I rate Fouts high too albeit his career was ending by the time I was getting into the sport)
Then we have scrubs like Dilfer who went 5-1 in the postseason and won the SB. Dilfer must be clutch! Or Eli Manning having more SB wins than his brother and a few other all-time greats despite being nowhere near as good as them. This shows how it's a team game. A clutch play but a RB or a defensive player can overshadow an abysmal or subpar performance by a QB. Yet the QB gets the credit or blame. And some QBs make a play late in a game when having been shit the entire game (see Tim Tebow).
Then there's the greatest regular season (statistically) QB ever, Payton Manning. Yet he's 11-12 in the postseason with the following interesting stats (as Bill Simmons pointed out; Patriots homer that he is)... Would you say Manning chokes? Or does the slate get wiped when winning one Super Bowl despite putting up some woeful statistics (3 tds, 7 ints) during that run?
Q: Did you know Peyton Manning has to win the Super Bowl this year to push his career playoff record above .500?
—Augie, Irvine
BS: Did you know Peyton Manning has lost more playoff games (12) than any quarterback ever? Did you know he’s 1-2 in the Super Bowl, and that he lost those two games by a combined 49 points? Did you know Manning’s regular-season passer rating (97.5) is 8.3 points higher than his playoff rating (89.2), even though he played 30 percent of those playoff games on the road? Did you know that Manning’s team was favored in 10 of his 12 playoff losses? Did you know he has more one-and-done postseasons (eight) than any other QB ever? Did you know he has only one game-winning drive in the playoffs? Did you know he’s lost playoff games to Jay Fiedler, Mark Sanchez and Chad Pennington? Did you know he threw three touchdowns and seven picks during his one Super Bowl–winning playoff run? Did you know that he’s 2-5 in outdoor playoff games on the road, with those two wins coming against Trent Green and a washed-up Steve McNair? Did you know that he destroyed the 2013 Pats to the tune of 400 yards, 2 TDs, 0 picks and a 118.4 passer rating and I should immediately shut up?
He's clearly quite good. It's the elite part that he's not quite entered and may never. Very few do enter that realm.
Andy Dalton is simply a horrible QB. Equally shit in big games as well as small. Marino, as much as it pains me to say it, could also be classified as a choker. Jury is still out on Stafford. He plays for Detroit after all, under some horrendous coaches. Dilfer was a serviceable game-manager who happened to play on a team with one of the greatest defenses ever. Nobody would ever confuse Dilfer for being clutch. And yes, I do think that Eli Manning is more clutch than Peyton. Being clutch has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with performing under pressure. Prior to Peyton winning the Super Bowl, he had a reputation similar to Dan Marino's, as someone who couldn't win the big games. As you've pointed out, Peyton's postseason record is a mixed bag. But, he does have a Super Bowl ring. As for Tim Tebow, while he might not be able throw a pretty pass, the guy's a winner. Can't speak to Dan Fouts the QB as he was before my time. Can confirm though he's a forgettable color analyst.
Tebow's such a winner he's still in the league. 8-6 starting record with some atrocious play, couldn't compete half his passes and set offenses back fifty years. The guy was a fluke for six or seven games and was soon found out. Could only keep a side in a game if the defense was playing lights out.
Fair points on all the rest.
Fair points on all the rest.
Yes he's quite good but not as good as he's made out to be.
Yes, Tebow is a winner. Didn't say he was a great QB. His 8-6 starting record combined with his obviously limited ability is evidence of that. Forget all the off-the-field garbage, the man won games. In college, as well as the NFL (that victory over the Steelers in the wild-card game still stands out).
You had one fecking job Detroit.
tebow pls
I think your pushing the boat saying great chance! They can't rush the QB and their secondary is no where good enough to contain Greenbays offence. Sure they can run the ball but they won't come close to matching the score Green bay will put up.
GB's run defence has improved recently. Bryant vs Nelson is evenly tied. Murray is the key here. Take him out and Rodgers will make it no contest.
Ah the wild-card game... how about that divisional playoff vs New England? 9-26 and his side lost by 35. No contest. Brady showed him how it's done by a legit QB. College matters nothing in the pros. Danny Weurffel was great in college. Chris Weinke, Andre Ware, Kelly Stouffer, etc.
He wasn't very good against the Steelers either. Well unless 10-21 and one very good deep throw is enough to warrant great.
Their pass rush has been much better in the last few weeks but it is overall bad. Yet they managed to win 12 games and a playoff game to date. You're sounding like a typical ABD.
Rams are the football equivalent of gypsies. Looks like they are pulling up the tents and moving to LA again.
What would the League want:
A one sided GB/Carolina game as well as the number 1 and 2 Defensive teams in the league. Marvellous for such an offense minded organisation. Or a marquee match-up featuring two of the most storied franchises in the League. All it takes is for the commish to have a quiet word with the head official before the game, if it is close try and favour the Cowboys.
A one sided GB/Carolina game as well as the number 1 and 2 Defensive teams in the league. Marvellous for such an offense minded organisation. Or a marquee match-up featuring two of the most storied franchises in the League. All it takes is for the commish to have a quiet word with the head official before the game, if it is close try and favour the Cowboys.
They're pulling a reverse Oakland!
NFL should never have allowed them to leave LA to begin with, but owners gladly take those relocation fees and look the other way. In fact, it's been said that had the two St Louis groups bidding for an expansion club in the early 90s had their shit together, St Louis would have got the franchise that was later awarded to Jacksonville (backed by Weaver's millions), and the Rams may have had nowhere else to go (or Toronto). But going a few years before that, the Cardinals should not have been allowed to move to Phoenix, which means Phoenix may have received the expansion club. This is the one thing I truly despise about the NFL - the willingness of owners to allow relocations (unless truly warranted, like per say if the Jags relocate).
NFL should never have allowed them to leave LA to begin with, but owners gladly take those relocation fees and look the other way. In fact, it's been said that had the two St Louis groups bidding for an expansion club in the early 90s had their shit together, St Louis would have got the franchise that was later awarded to Jacksonville (backed by Weaver's millions), and the Rams may have had nowhere else to go (or Toronto). But going a few years before that, the Cardinals should not have been allowed to move to Phoenix, which means Phoenix may have received the expansion club. This is the one thing I truly despise about the NFL - the willingness of owners to allow relocations (unless truly warranted, like per say if the Jags relocate).
Very RAWKish. You're aware English fans have been claiming such favoritism towards United for decades? We all know it's ludicrous.
. You must be a die hard Dallas fan. Aaron Rodgers is probably the best QB in the NFL, he will slice and dice your D when he's given all the time he wants and it's in Lambo. You guys have no chance!Anyway, we'll beat either in the championship game. 
He is the best QB in the game, I've said that all along. I love how it's only Rodgers that can torch a defense when given time. He was the top rated QB in 2014... oh wait... no that was Romo with an O-line that can dominate most opponents. Ah but let the excuses flow...
I guess Dallas shouldn't show up. Just like at Seattle, at Philly, vs Indy, vs Detroit...
Only armchair fanatics claim another side do not have a chance in a game. Baltimore had no chance in Pittsburgh some said. Yet the coaching staff and players know they better study film and execute on game day to win.
It's alright you hate Dallas more than you support your own club. It's understandable. It's very Liverpudlian to hate the bigger club.
Dallas barely scraped by Detroit. Murray coming back breathed some life and Detroit imploded in second half. As you say, brushing teams off's is nonsense at this stage, but I think GB has a definitive edge. The cold and home advantage will tilt it in favour of GB.
Hmm... the oddsmakers feel Dallas has the best chance of all the road teams this coming weekend. No chance some will say...
Baltimore +7
Carolina +11
Dallas +6
Indianapolis +7
I'd put my lock money on the Colts losing by double digits in Denver, though I'd love to be proven wrong.
Right now I'd go NE 23-19 BAL, SEA 27-13 CAR, GB 30-24 DAL, DEN 34-17 IND but that's without seeing who will be injured and all that stuff.
Baltimore +7
Carolina +11
Dallas +6
Indianapolis +7
I'd put my lock money on the Colts losing by double digits in Denver, though I'd love to be proven wrong.
Right now I'd go NE 23-19 BAL, SEA 27-13 CAR, GB 30-24 DAL, DEN 34-17 IND but that's without seeing who will be injured and all that stuff.
Green Bay lost at Detroit and held on at home to beat them. Seattle smashed GB and Dallas won at Seattle. New Orleans put 44 on GB but lost to Dallas by 21. Dallas plays better on the road for some bizarre reason. It's all relative. Every week can spring a new surprise.
GB's defense isn't much better than Dallas according to DVOA. GB's pass defense is better but Dallas plays the run better. Murray and the Dallas O-line will be the big factor most likely (GB's running game could make a big impact too). Dallas did manage to overcome Detroit's dominate front seven and still put up 24 points and 315 yards with a slight advantage in possession (about 1%). Hopefully, this weekend's game will be even better no matter which club wins out.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
Just caught some of the highlights show on C4, looked like Flacco had a good day.
Andrew Luck worries me a little ahead of Sunday.
Lacey is going to be key for Green Bay. The running game will open up avenues for Rodgers.
I agree, its going to be too close to call and anything can happen in the playoffs.
Is Rodgers 100% fit? How are Murray and Lacey going to be? Is that one week rest going to help Packers or will the momentum of these wins help Cowboys?
Dallas are as good away as Packers are as good at home. Its our secondary im worried about in defence as I could see Bryant and of course Witten making some key 3rd down plays. However our Claymaker will be key for defence
I agree, its going to be too close to call and anything can happen in the playoffs.
Is Rodgers 100% fit? How are Murray and Lacey going to be? Is that one week rest going to help Packers or will the momentum of these wins help Cowboys?
Dallas are as good away as Packers are as good at home. Its our secondary im worried about in defence as I could see Bryant and of course Witten making some key 3rd down plays. However our Claymaker will be key for defence
Gloryhole days is classic! Jerry is a sexaholic!
Add: Performed a Google search and that Jerry clip was from 2012.
Add: Performed a Google search and that Jerry clip was from 2012.
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Dallas' road record this season has been nothing short of amazing, and, as we all know, anything can happen in sports. Having said all that, I fully expect Green Bay to win. Frozen tundra of Lambeau Field in January and all that. Plus, Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL. Seattle will smash Carolina at home.
Jaysus Jerry!!