NFL Thread 2014-2015

Rado_N said:
Classy move indeed, but the quote made me chuckle:

"I would love to give him the truck," Brady said. "I would love to do that. I'm going to figure out how to make that work."

Errrrm, hand him the keys and the pink slip?
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Probably more talking about the tax effects of giving a gift worth more than 10 grand to someone before he does it. Not that he can not afford a bit of gift tax, but best to make sure you do it the right way so you don't run up against the Tax Man. Imagine the outcry if Brady was found to have messed up on his taxes, :D
 
JustAFan said:
Probably more talking about the tax effects of giving a gift worth more than 10 grand to someone before he does it. Not that he can not afford a bit of gift tax, but best to make sure you do it the right way so you don't run up against the Tax Man. Imagine the outcry if Brady was found to have messed up on his taxes, :D
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Shamefully I have no clue whatsoever about US tax, but that may well be a factor!
 
Obviously people saying it is the worst play call in the history of sports or the NFL, as I've heard a number of times already, is ridiculous. Its true, the victory does take everyone's eye off the Patriots' coaching staff, and even the Patriots' safety/CB (can't remember which) who jumped over Kearse with the ball still in the air and very much alive. It would have been a tough play, but he would have had to relive that moment every time he saw that catch play just as often as Tyree's.

I don't mind the throwing call. I honestly believe that they had to throw at least once in the series, whether it was on second or third down, so I'll give them that. I think my problem lies with the play calling. Throughout the game, the Seahawks' receivers were consistently put off by players like Browner who were very physical right at the line of scrimmage. They could get very little separation all game and yet you call a shotgun formation with a quick slant with your best offensive weapon being used as a mere diversion. The run would have been telegraphed, but it seems that they did the exact same thing with the pass. Butler has stated numerous times he saw the exact same play in game film and they knew they would pass in the three receiver set. So why not run a play action and play into the obvious?

I'd be the first person saying how gutsy Carroll and his OC were if Seattle would have won, and I don't disagree with the idea of passing, I just think the people who are going against the flood of hate for Carroll are also missing obvious criticism by all but exonerating him. Its not the worst call ever, its not even a bad idea, it just seems that the actual play call was aloof and the execution was, needless to say, poor
 
Eboue said:
thats, uh, ridiculous. belichick should have called timeout
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Belichick played it right. Think about it. He expected a run and a score by Seattle. Let's say he calls timeout before like some people thought he should have and Seattle scores on next play:
Brady gets it with say 45-50 seconds left with one timeout. Brady then can only throw it into any part of the field once. After that he has to sideline it to recievers against the best corners in football.
Second scenerio:
Brady gets ball with 20-25 seconds with 2 timeouts. He can now throw it twice into any part of the field. Big difference.
Belichick knows clock mgt better than any coach around. He learned that from Parcells
 
njred said:
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Belichick played it right. Think about it. He expected a run and a score by Seattle. Let's say he calls timeout before like some people thought he should have and Seattle scores on next play:
Brady gets it with say 45-50 seconds left with one timeout. Brady then can only throw it into any part of the field once. After that he has to sideline it to recievers against the best corners in football.
Second scenerio:
Brady gets ball with 20-25 seconds with 2 timeouts. He can now throw it twice into any part of the field. Big difference.
Belichick knows clock mgt better than any coach around. He learned that from Parcells
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No, that's wrong. Timeouts are worth the entire play clock. If you are trying to allow a game winning drive, you need to maximize the return on them. In your scenario you still basically have to call timeout again, as the team would take time off the clock trying to run up the field and spike the ball.
 
okLaptop1 said:
Still don't feel any pity for Seahawks or their fans, they were pretty damn lucky to get down the field in the first place after the Kearse catch.
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Don't think Seattle were "lucky" to be in the position to win a close game tbh. How about the non call on the Lockette trip in the open? That wasn't very lucky.
 
I don't get why you make your Suberbowl parade about Seahawks players but whatever. I see Edelman had a Sherman sign also.
 
JackXX said:
I don't get why you make your Suberbowl parade about Seahawks players but whatever. I see Edelman had a Sherman sign also.
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As if Sherman would not have been talking smack at the Patriots had the Seahawks won, of course not really making the parade about Seahawks players....just having a bit of banter.
 
JackXX said:
Don't think Seattle were "lucky" to be in the position to win a close game tbh. How about the non call on the Lockette trip in the open? That wasn't very lucky.
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the running into the kicker penalty that should have been a 15 yarder went there way and might have changed the game also. So a call went there way, another did not. End of the day, New England won and deserved to.
 
JustAFan said:
As if Sherman would not have been talking smack at the Patriots had the Seahawks won, of course not really making the parade about Seahawks players....just having a bit of banter.
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I'm glad they are doing it hopefully it will fire up our players more to bounce back next season. Blount needs to run more than 30 yards or w.e it was before being that disrespectful.
 
JustAFan said:
the running into the kicker penalty that should have been a 15 yarder went there way and might have changed the game also. So a call went there way, another did not. End of the day, New England won and deserved to.
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Never once said New England didn't deserve the win. I wasn't really looking to go tit for tat on the play calls I just don't feel Seattle were "lucky" we made a lot of good plays throughout the game sometimes you get things go your way other times you don't. I'm not looking for any excuses. Both teams played really well and it came down to the last minute to decide the winner.
 
JackXX said:
I'm glad they are doing it hopefully it will fire up our players more to bounce back next season. Blount needs to run more than 30 yards or w.e it was before being that disrespectful.
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Oh get over yourself. If the Hawks and their fans can't take a bit of trash talk, they should tell players like Sherman to shut the feck up.
 
JustAFan said:
Oh get over yourself. If the Hawks and their fans can't take a bit of trash talk, they should tell players like Sherman to shut the feck up.
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Ha ha get over myself? I'm not sure where that came from or how that relates to me. Anyway enjoy the win seems commenting on other teams players makes fans emotional. :lol:
 
JackXX said:
Don't think Seattle were "lucky" to be in the position to win a close game tbh. How about the non call on the Lockette trip in the open? That wasn't very lucky.
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well, they were luck to get past GB to start with. They are a good team, but the final 2 games were not their best. Wilson was crap and performing in patches when it counts. Suicide by GB and a lucky Kearse catch made them look better than they actually were in post season.
 
JustAFan said:
Joe never lost a Super Bowl.
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This is true, neither did Aikman, Bradshaw, Dilfer, Plunkett, Rodgers, ... but Joe Cool was clutch and a great player to watch. That second time against the Bengals showed his calmness, coolness, and leadership, and established his legacy. He also never faced a top class defense in his four SB trips, unless one considers the 89 Broncos a "top class defense" having had the fortune of playing in a very shitty AFC. That's not really his fault either.
 
rpitroda said:
Apparently one of the Seahawks players (unnamed) told a media journalist it could be a conspiracy - Wilson and Pete wanted their glory and for it not to be Lynch. I don't believe it but I can't fathom the call in anyway. It's bizarre.
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Only one man would ever risk his side's win for his own personal glory...

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MrMarcello said:
In my Top 5, with Denver-Green Bay still the best I've watched.
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Yep, one of the all-time greats for sure. Giants v. Patriots is up there, as is the Rams v. Titans game. The first game I can remember is the Bills v. Giants game, and my brother swears that it is the greatest Super Bowl he has ever watched. Cardinals and Steelers was great too; Warner knows how to make Super Bowls exciting. All three games have to be top 10 of all time
 
Anderson's Cat said:
He made the right decision, it appears.
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Timeout was probably the right thing to do figuring the opposition will score from a yard out and wanting to give your QB a legitimate chance. They only would have needed FG range to force OT, and as seen late in SB 38, a bad kick can shorten the field (or a great return). But Bill rolled the dice and came up Little Joe.

Fortune favours the brave.
 
Anderson's Cat said:
I'm a Pats fan since that Superbowl against the Bears. Still hurts!! :mad:
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Mike Greenberg was talking about how Seattle's defense can't be considered for greatest ever because they gave up all those yards to Brady, especially in the fourth quarter, and lost. He said that the 85 Bears wouldn't have allowed a comeback like that. That's conjecture.

First off, the 13 Seahawks and 85 Bears both won the SB in dominating fashion.

Secondly, the 85 Bears played an average Patriots side while the 13 Seahawks played a record-setting Broncos side (still for my money the biggest beat down in SB history considering all factors; everyone knew Chicago would win in a rout, and they were likely fortunate NE knocked off Miami).

Thirdly, the 14 Seahawks repeated as conference champions while the 86 Bears choked (the 86 Bears defense was better than the previous side, statistically and continuity wise).

Finally, I have no doubts Brady could have done the same against the 85 Bears, all factors considered. He did so against the 14 Seahawks, and Marino did so against the 85 Bears in Week 13, putting up 31 first half points, and 270 yds and 3 tds (high passing totals in those days) in a 38-24 win, Chicago's only loss that season.

Btw, San Francisco was closer to going unbeaten in 1984, losing in week 7 at home to Pittsburgh, 20-17. I'd still rate the 84 and 89 49ers and 07 Pats as better than the 72 Dolphins and 85 Bears. But as previously noted, the 85 Bears became media darlings and fan favorites and have been over-hyped for years, great one season side they were (00 Ravens had the best single season defense ever IMO).
 
rpitroda said:
Will to win and his ability in the clutch. 9/12 successful 4th quarter winning drive attempts in the post season. It's just masterful.
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Does those three unsuccessful attempts count the two time in the SB he got the ball back with very little time remaining? This after previously exiting the field with his side in the lead.
 
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