I don’t have the Brady hate and think it’d be a nice story for him. On the other hand I hate that owners collect the trophy in the Super Bowl rather than the team or coach, and it’s particularly bad that it’d be a Glazer. So I’m a bit torn. Overall I’m not too fussed who wins, just hoping for a good game.
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No the hell it wasn't. I'm still angry all these years on. If you are going to pass it, maybe don't do it to our tiny WR3 against Brandon bloody Browner.
Pete is a messy coach.
Ok.
The concept of hating him at this point is a bit OBE at this point. He's already won everything and has left all his detractors in the dust.
Or 49ers
Maybe, think we missed the window with Rodgers and a second ring. Will take some mad season next season but everything was in Rodgers favour except the defence and the draft which I think cost us this season
If buccs win part of me hopes that will make glazers do the same for United
Won't happen
So fck glazers
I don't mind brady except last week for obvious reasons. Do want mahomes to win a second though cos he's awesome
After all that Miami promotes their TE coach (who worked for the last two OCs) and RB coach (who worked for the last three) to co-OC...with the QB coach in charge of QB development.
Sounds like a total mess imo. Maybe there's a reason we had 5 OCs in 5 years
Sounds like a total mess imo. Maybe there's a reason we had 5 OCs in 5 years
I didn’t say the play was necessarily the right one. But the decision to pass was right.
I’m surprised they didn’t at least pull some hotshot from the college ranks. To be fair I don’t know who that’d be as most of those guys already have good jobs. Continuity with Tua was probably a big factor.
Hiring an OC is Flo's weak spot. 3 in 3 years now, the Gailey hire was particularly underwhelming.
I understand the logic, but no. I’d love to see the stats for how many times, from the 1 yard line, Lynch failed to get it in. Maybe for other teams, in different situations, sure. But not for the Hawks, with that team.
I think Lynch actually had pretty bad stats in precisely those situations all season.
Here ya go.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...call-patriots-2014/14laf54x4evid101r0csjzxafs
https://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/102175/inside-seattles-decision-to-pass-from-the-1
It's not having say Emmitt Smith or Marcus Allen back there. I seem to recall Allen got a ton of 1-yard scores as he kept padding his stats as a below-average has been great in the 90s.
And everybody expected them to run. They gave the ball into the hands of their best player when it mattered most. That's the right thing to do. It resulted in a very unlikely interception. That sucks. But I still think passing here was the right call.
I'm generally of the opinion that the Seahawks were right to pass the ball; the problem was that they ran the same goal-line play they always did and Malcolm Butler had picked up on their tendencies.
If you look at it in further detail, they had 2nd and Goal from the 1 with one time-out remaining and then snapped the ball with 0:26 left on the clock. If you run the ball there and get stuffed, you likely have to use your time-out immediately; on the other hand, you still have the time-out if it's an incomplete pass. Personally, I think their plan should have been to pass on 2nd down, run on 3rd down and then use the time-out, and then either run or pass on 4th down. If you run there on 2nd down and use the time-out after, everyone knows you're passing on 3rd and Goal, whereas if the 2nd down play results in an incomplete pass, you can plausibly either run or pass the ball.
And then you also have to consider that the Patriots had sold out versus the run. The one thing the Patriots wanted the Seahawks to do was to run the ball up the gut. Given the look the Patriots defense gave, the Seahawks were right to pass the ball. It's just that they should have known better than to run the same pick play they always ran at the goal-line.
If you look at it in further detail, they had 2nd and Goal from the 1 with one time-out remaining and then snapped the ball with 0:26 left on the clock. If you run the ball there and get stuffed, you likely have to use your time-out immediately; on the other hand, you still have the time-out if it's an incomplete pass. Personally, I think their plan should have been to pass on 2nd down, run on 3rd down and then use the time-out, and then either run or pass on 4th down. If you run there on 2nd down and use the time-out after, everyone knows you're passing on 3rd and Goal, whereas if the 2nd down play results in an incomplete pass, you can plausibly either run or pass the ball.
And then you also have to consider that the Patriots had sold out versus the run. The one thing the Patriots wanted the Seahawks to do was to run the ball up the gut. Given the look the Patriots defense gave, the Seahawks were right to pass the ball. It's just that they should have known better than to run the same pick play they always ran at the goal-line.
Interesting thread. Follows please.
Tom Brady lives rent free in both your heads.
Can’t we save some of that until after we see what happens with Brady in the Super Bowl?
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I pretty much agree with all of this. The play they‘ve run might not been the right one, but the decision to pass it makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, I think fans can be a bit quick to judge whether a team should have passed or ran without really considering what front and coverage the defense are playing. You'll find a lot of people for instance who were critical of the Seahawks for running a good bit versus the Rams this season without fully considering that Staley (The then Rams' DC and the now Chargers' HC) was playing light fronts in order to tempt the Seahawks into running the ball.
There is footage of the Pats scout team running the exact same Seahawks play a couple to days before the Super Bowl on the “America’s Game” documentary. Butler got beat on that one.
Belichicks decision not to call a time out as the Seahawks were on the goal line was world class coaching as well. Carroll was expecting it, which would have allowed the Seahawks 3 runs. By not calling time out, it forced the Seahawks into at least one of the plays being a pass
Wasn't sure if I'd be able to watch it this year, then I quit my crap job and got a way better one. A week off starting Friday before I start the new one. Stocked up today with snacks and beers
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Wasn't sure if I'd be able to watch it this year, then I quit my crap job and got a way better one. A week off starting Friday before I start the new one. Stocked up today with snacks and beers
Yes, that and the fact that it was a known play made it a terrible decision.
At the same time you had one of the best RBs (who brought them to the 1-yard-line) in the league, and almost everyone from his team was expecting him to get and run with the ball.
Anyone find some good bets yet to make the SB a bit more interesting than it already is?
I like Mahomes over 19.5 rushing yards and Evans over 4.5 catches at the moment. Kelce over 94.5 yards too.
I like Mahomes over 19.5 rushing yards and Evans over 4.5 catches at the moment. Kelce over 94.5 yards too.
Mahomes said his toe is near 100% and he’ll need Kelce as an outlet as Tampa’s D-Line is running over KC’s OL, so I like the first and last ones there.
Denver Broncos on Deshaun Watson’s list of teams to listen to.
https://predominantlyorange.com/2021/02/02/denver-broncos-deshaun-watson-list/
Ooooooh
Report: Broncos Connected to Free-Agent QBs Jameis Winston, Tyrod Taylor
https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/broncos-jameis-winston-tyrod-taylor-free-agency-interest-rumor
Aaaaarrrrrrrrrgh
https://predominantlyorange.com/2021/02/02/denver-broncos-deshaun-watson-list/
Ooooooh
Report: Broncos Connected to Free-Agent QBs Jameis Winston, Tyrod Taylor
https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/broncos-jameis-winston-tyrod-taylor-free-agency-interest-rumor
Aaaaarrrrrrrrrgh
I'd say Kelce is an almost certain to top that figure, barring he blows up his knee in the first half ala Shannon Sharpe in 1999.
https://www.sportsline.com/nfl/news...clyde-edwards-helaire-up-for-patrick-mahomes/
CEH at 29.5 yards rushing & Williams at 27.5 yards rushing - thoughts?
I like Evans prop bets: 4.5 catches and 62.5 yards.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ytime-touchdown-hits-in-buccaneers-vs-chiefs/
https://www.sportsline.com/nfl/news...clyde-edwards-helaire-up-for-patrick-mahomes/
CEH at 29.5 yards rushing & Williams at 27.5 yards rushing - thoughts?
I like Evans prop bets: 4.5 catches and 62.5 yards.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ytime-touchdown-hits-in-buccaneers-vs-chiefs/
Bucs have the best rushing defense in the NFL though. Think they only allowed 3 or 4 players to top 50 rushing yards this season if I'm not mistaken. Given the timeshare in the Chiefs' backfield, it's anyone's guess if anyone, and if so, who, tops 25 rushing yards imo.
Hmmm...29.5 seems too easy, which gives me pause. 2 weeks off to rest that hip and ankle should see CEH in good shape. Some of his yardage may also come from shovel passes on draws that won’t register as rushing though.
I’d still take the over on 29.5 in the end.
I’d still take the over on 29.5 in the end.
Waiting for evidence to drop the barber is Brady’s mate.
How bad was that barber’s day? Miss out on cash from 20+ haircuts of well-paid people and also find you have Covid...
It’s the dude from the state farm commercial. He is a Brady fan.
Mid cut? I’m loving the image of someone rocking up to the Super Bowl with a half finished hair cut.
So crazy that they would even take the risk of getting a haircut.
Sportsmen have been doing it throughout the entire pandemic. The rules don't seem to apply.
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