In 35 plus years of watching football, I can honestly say I've never seen a play like the 2 point conversion the Bears just pulled off.
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Thing is, he might well be the greatest 'arm talent' since Elway/Marino and he already has one title to his name. As @MrMarcello points out, this is why people don't appreciate how great Elway was: the teams he was going against were vastly superior.
It's like leaving Messi on the Spurs or Arsenal squad and complaining about him not winning the Champions League. Doesn't make him any less talented.
Yeah I agree Elway is criminally underrated in the pantheon of all time greats. I feel that the three Super Bowl loses to the Skins and 9ers - the blowout nature of them - definitely hurt his cred to the point that even when he won the two in the late 90s, you just knew it wouldn't be enough in the goat discussion at that point. Still 5 SB appearances was the best ever til Brady recently broke it.
Not exactly the same, a QB has much more impact on a game that any single player in normal football.
Looks like both Beckham and Marshall will miss the remainder of the season. Silver lining in this is a potential top five pick - get a great OT.
You know they'll probably end up picking a running back or another DB.
Or a QB.
Which they should. Just like Pittsburgh.
Yep.
Quite a lot of teams, you'd imagine next year. Giants, Jets, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cleveland, San Francisco, Jacksonville, Arizona, potentially Buffalo and Miami.
Nah. They're fine.
Not really.
Big Ben is done. He's mentally finished.
The retirement talk in the off season and his "maybe I don't have it anymore" comments the other night, this is his last season.
Well..Big Ben is a drama queen. He does the same routine every year. Also, I meant the giants being just fine.
Racist gonna racist. This isn't the first time Ditka has said outlandish things.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-ditka-20171010-story.html
Mike Ditka: 'No oppression in last 100 years'
“All of a sudden, it’s become a big deal now, about oppression,” Ditka told Jim Gray on Westwood One’s pregame show ahead of the Bears’ “Monday Night Football” loss to the Vikings. “There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of. Now maybe I’m not watching it as carefully as other people.”
“If you don’t respect our country, then you shouldn’t be in this country playing football,” he said. “Go to another country and play football. If you had to go somewhere else to try to play the sport, you wouldn’t have a job. So that would be my take. If you can’t respect the flag and the country, then you don’t respect what this is all about. So I would say, adios.”
“I don’t know what social injustices have been,” Ditka said. “Muhammad Ali rose to the top. Jesse Owens is one of the classiest individuals that ever lived. I mean, you can say, ‘Are you (saying) everything is based on color?’ I don’t see it that way. I think that you have to be color blind in this country. You’ve got to look at a person for what he is and what he stands for and how he produces, not by the color of his skin. That has never had anything to do with anything.”
“No, I’m not because I’m getting old, Jim, and I’m to the point right now, I’m fed up with a lot of it,” Ditka said. “I mean, I don’t see all this, the social injustice that some of these people see. I don’t. I know my dad worked in a steel mill and he brought home a paycheck and we ate dinner every night together. We didn’t have anything, but we didn’t need anything because we had a family. That was a good time in America. I would like to see us get back to that.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-ditka-20171010-story.html
Mike Ditka: 'No oppression in last 100 years'
“All of a sudden, it’s become a big deal now, about oppression,” Ditka told Jim Gray on Westwood One’s pregame show ahead of the Bears’ “Monday Night Football” loss to the Vikings. “There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of. Now maybe I’m not watching it as carefully as other people.”
“If you don’t respect our country, then you shouldn’t be in this country playing football,” he said. “Go to another country and play football. If you had to go somewhere else to try to play the sport, you wouldn’t have a job. So that would be my take. If you can’t respect the flag and the country, then you don’t respect what this is all about. So I would say, adios.”
“I don’t know what social injustices have been,” Ditka said. “Muhammad Ali rose to the top. Jesse Owens is one of the classiest individuals that ever lived. I mean, you can say, ‘Are you (saying) everything is based on color?’ I don’t see it that way. I think that you have to be color blind in this country. You’ve got to look at a person for what he is and what he stands for and how he produces, not by the color of his skin. That has never had anything to do with anything.”
“No, I’m not because I’m getting old, Jim, and I’m to the point right now, I’m fed up with a lot of it,” Ditka said. “I mean, I don’t see all this, the social injustice that some of these people see. I don’t. I know my dad worked in a steel mill and he brought home a paycheck and we ate dinner every night together. We didn’t have anything, but we didn’t need anything because we had a family. That was a good time in America. I would like to see us get back to that.”
AP to the Cardinals. His fantasy value just went up.
Not surprised with the trade. Was strange he went to a team that is so reliant on the passing game to begin with.
I don't get how teams keep trying their luck with Peterson. The guy is done. There is absolutely nothing left in his tank.
fecking hell if this was 2009 that would be the greatest rushing attack of all time. CJ2K and Peterson.
Speaking of, Goodell is gonna make it mandatory that players stand during anthems.
Wanna see how this works and how he implements that...
As we were talking about the Browns' O-line the other day, PFF just published their current rankings.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...ocial&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl
The Browns are seventh, which is quite good actually. Especially considering they have a terrible QB. There is talent on that team, a lot of it, actually. They are simply missing some spark.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...ocial&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl
The Browns are seventh, which is quite good actually. Especially considering they have a terrible QB. There is talent on that team, a lot of it, actually. They are simply missing some spark.
The Giants are a mess this year.
I'm trying not to get too excited for Sunday in case it backfires... 
From what I have seen, your defense is going to demolish them. There is no other alternative.
Must admit I'm expecting Von to enjoy himself.
Wolfe is my guy, I see him being too disruptive for a malfunctioning offense.
I may take back my previous comments about them..
I can't say I'm particularly excited to see the Giants offence vs the Seahawks offence at this point... Hopefully Wilson turns it on.
I can't say I'm particularly excited to see the Giants offence vs the Seahawks offence at this point... Hopefully Wilson turns it on.
He's an animal that guy.
McAdoo will be there as long as Eli wants him there. But if Eli goes which again based on the cap hit I can't see happening, the McAdoo is gone.
Is it defined somewhere that kneeling during anthem is 'disrespectful'?
Nowhere in the US Code. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/chapter-1
Specifically https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8
The anthem has a different code and does mention standing, however, "should" not "must." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301
Specifically https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8
The anthem has a different code and does mention standing, however, "should" not "must." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301
He's losing the team, and understandably so. I mean, just look at him on the sidelines.
Not by much
Dude we will be fine. Its the No-Fly Zone man. They would have struggled to score even 1 TD with Odell.I'm trying not to get too excited for Sunday in case it backfires...
So Zeke’s suspension is reinstated but apparently his people could appeal & he’d be able to play. Seems a big mess
Did you type that before or after you picked up Alfred Morris 
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