Osweiller will do well there and with Duke Johnson improving and the addition of Njoku, they will have a good team going forward. They've done really well on defense as well.
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Osweiller will do well there and with Duke Johnson improving and the addition of Njoku, they will have a good team going forward. They've done really well on defense as well.
Spielman managed to put me in a state of deep depression.
7th Round all picks for VikingsChad Kelly , Jim Kelly's nephew , is the last pick of the draft aka Mr. Irrelevant.
Maybe he can finally slide into Mia Khalifa's DMs.
This evaluation of the draft might interest some of you.
http://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/2017-consensus-big-board-the-consensus-grades-your-draft/
http://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/2017-consensus-big-board-the-consensus-grades-your-draft/
Not sure if it's been posted but this is great from Ryan Leaf, if you can remember him. Could apply to some degree to many young sportsmen/women:
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/ryan-leaf-nfl-letter-to-my-younger-self/
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/ryan-leaf-nfl-letter-to-my-younger-self/
They did a good job (uncharacteristically, unless you're Costner) in the draft but Osweiller will never be the QB to lead a young, up and coming team...maybe as backup to RGIII
Bills fire GM and entire scouting Dept right after draft.
Vikings won't exercise Bridgewater's fifth-year option.
Jamaal Charles visiting the Broncos today.
Be a big ask for him to regain his pre injury form but if he's actually fit it's worth a shot.
Be a big ask for him to regain his pre injury form but if he's actually fit it's worth a shot.
The Bills declined the 5th year option for Sammy Watkins. So they spent two high first round picks on a receiver who they don't trust enough to pick up the 5th year option. All this in a draft that was as deep and good as they come at wide receiver.
Some teams are simply too stupid for their own good.
Some teams are simply too stupid for their own good.
Apparently set to sign if he passes a physical, no doubt containing a lot of knee tests. I expect it'll be an incentive laden low risk deal.
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Nice, physical must have gone well.
Potentially a brilliant addition to the roster, just have to hope he's past the knee troubles.
Potentially a brilliant addition to the roster, just have to hope he's past the knee troubles.
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Not entirely true though is it.
Agreed it was stupid to give up those picks to get him, but that doesn't inherently mean they should take up his fifth year option.
The main reason they aren't taking it up is because they aren't sure about his foot. Why extend on someone who you're not sure can get past injuries.
Additionally, and very importantly, he was drafted fourth overall. That means his salary for the fifth year would have been the average of the top 10 paid wide receivers in the league (or something like that). That is a large salary and certainly, if they are proved wrong and Watkins overcomes injuries, they could probably re-sign him for a price not to dissimilar to having taken up the option.
All at a risk though that they may lose him to free agency.
So overall in my view at least it's the correct choice when you balance risk and reward.
@Eboue What do you think about the NFC north draft weekend?
Sadly his career is all but over.
That knee suffered catastrophic damage and the nerve damage was severe with very little progress since the injury.
He went from being the present and future of the franchise to...
Sadly his career is all but over.
That knee suffered catastrophic damage and the nerve damage was severe with very little progress since the injury.
He went from being the present and future of the franchise to...
It's not over yet. A few weeks ago it was rumored that the Vikings will not take the option and it was precised that if Bridgewater starts the pre season on PUP and stays in it for the first six weeks, his contract tolls which means that the Vikings will be able to take the option next year.
hence me saying all but over...but not completely over.
As you say, Vikings bought themselves a year essentially. But, the chances of him returning and becoming a starter in the NFL look very, very slim.
But that's what I mean. I get why they are not picking up the option. My problem is drafting Watkins in the first place. A receiver that high is almost never good value. Picking him that high and giving up two first round picks to do so was horrible value. Now they have a player who is injury prone, cost far too much and they don't know yet wether they are going to extend his contract at all.
They could have used those picks for OBJ, Aaron Donald or Zack Martin in year one and Dupree or Landon Collins in year two. Just for example.
There is a lot of hindsight here, obviously, but that was a truly horrible trade. From the beginning. There was no way Watkins was ever going to be worth it for the Bills.
That was a stupid trade by a stupid team. Those things are the reason why teams like the Bills suck so bad.
I was hoping Packers would pick him up once he passes over Broncos.
All valid points. Agree the trade wasn't a good one in the first place.
In fairness to Watkins he has been very good though with terrible QBs. Never enough to be worth the trade.
All the stuff about injuries and not being sure about 5th year options etc, is all hindsight though.
Bad trade? For sure. But at least they're making a good decision this time.
As a patriots fan though, it's all too funny for me!
If I recall Bridgewater was a non-contact injury right? Amazing how much damage was caused. Anyone know broadly what happened?
I agree, but playing devils advocate, what's your opinion on Falcons trading up for Julio Jones?
To my mind that was an extremely brave, and excellent trade
Bears did horribly. Kevin King is a perfect pick for the Packers. Dalvin Cook was my #1 back so getting him 41st instead of 4th or 8th is great. Elflein could be good for a team that badly needs OL help and Gedeon was a very good college linebacker who might be too slow to succeed in the NFL. Not impressed with the Lions draft at all.
It worked for them, I guess. But I would have never done it. Good and reliable receivers are far too easy to get to justify an investment like this. As exceptional as Julio might be, a receiver simply doesn't influence the game enough and is not rare enough for that kind of an investment. When guys like Antonio Brown or Julian Edelman go in round 6 or 7 and many reliable receivers come out every year and are available at later stages of the draft, this investment doesn't make sense to me.
Had the Falcons kept their picks, they might have gotten Cameron Jordan or Muhammad Wilkerson in year 1 and Harrison Smith or Dont'a Hightower in year 2. And those are just the first rounders. Not to mention the rest. And to think they could have gotten JJ. Watt or Tyron Smith with the pick they traded for doesn't help in giving this trade a positive spin.
This is not meant as a dig on Julio or Sammy Watkins. I just don't see the sense in drafting receivers this high. There are far more important positions far more difficult to get quality for. If I have a pick that high, I'm looking for a LT, pass rusher, CB or maybe a defensive lineman. Players who actually influence every aspect of the game. The influence of a receiver is to limited for me. It's not a premium position, in my mind at least.
If I sell the farm for a high pick, I'd get a QB and that's it. Otherwise I would never trade this much draft capital. And if I do, it would never be for a receiver.
Considering the depth issues and the problems on defense, the fact that Matt Ryan can work with many different receivers, they still hat Tony Gonzales and Roddy White at the time, I do believe they would have been better off without this deal.
By the way, I like how the Falcons drafted in recent years. At least at the top. They identified top talent at premier positions and got it. Jake Matthews, Vic Beasly and Desmond Trufant are the kind of players I would look for in round 1.
Thanks, that's pretty much how I see it. It was strange to see the Lions pass on Foster and wait that much for the DE or WR positions.
One other thing on the Watkins trade by the Bills it also soured Doug Marrone on the entire situation in Buffalo and probably played a part in his leaving. Now maybe that is not so bad, but it can't be viewed as being that good either.
Jay Cutler joining Fox. Can't wait for his insight into throwing interceptions.
Kaepernick is a free agent. Why aren't the Broncos biting ?
NFL as a whole is incredibly backwards, they are all probably too scared following his 'protests' last year.
Same reason we didn't take Cutler or Romo.
I think they've bridled any such notions.
They haven't really signed anyone big since Manning retired and Osweiler was traded, so the cap space should be there. Also, Demarcus Ware retired so there should be even more money available.
We've got about $15m in cap space, but that's not the issue.
Elway has said over and over that he's happy with the two guys he's got, he doesn't see any of the available options as worth bringing in.
We've got about $15m in cap space, but that's not the issue.
Elway has said over and over that he's happy with the two guys he's got, he doesn't see any of the available options as worth bringing in.
They probably also don't want to deal with Kaepernick's baggage.
Possible, but I'm not overly worried about the QB position. Last year wasn't the year to judge when Siemian was operating behind a saloon door. Our priority this off-season was the O-line and run game, both of which have been strengthened.
I don't think Kaepernick would add anything to the Broncos anyway.
He's really a QB a team would take a punt on. Such as a team who've drafted a QB and want to sit him a while or are in need of a QB and willing to take a chance.
Don't think any such team exists to be honest. Bears have Glennon to sit Trubisky. Chiefs have Smith for Mahomes. Texans don't need to take the chance on Kaepernick as Watson would probably do a better job plus have Savage who knows the system.
Maybe someone like the Jets could go for him.
He's really a QB a team would take a punt on. Such as a team who've drafted a QB and want to sit him a while or are in need of a QB and willing to take a chance.
Don't think any such team exists to be honest. Bears have Glennon to sit Trubisky. Chiefs have Smith for Mahomes. Texans don't need to take the chance on Kaepernick as Watson would probably do a better job plus have Savage who knows the system.
Maybe someone like the Jets could go for him.
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