What a performance by the Eagles. Playoffs guaranteed now but top 2 place is massive in the NFC and we need to get that
NFL 2017/18
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It was an impossible task for Dallas without Zeke, Sean Lee and Tyron Smith.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/sport/georgia-dome-imploded/index.html
Only be stadium to host the Super Bowl, Final Four and Olympic Events imploded.
Only be stadium to host the Super Bowl, Final Four and Olympic Events imploded.
Broncos have fired McCoy. Guess he's the scapegoat for signing/starting Brock, having a crap OL, etc.
elway is a genius
Elway is responsible for bringing Brock back. He's also responsible for trading up for a higher first round draft pick and picking a guy who is yet to be deemed good enough to play a game in season two.
For an amazing QB he's not doing very well at identifying a good one for us.
This season is over, we need to throw Lynch in now to see out the rest of the year. It he's shit fine at least we know and can cut him and look at our options. There's zero point whatsoever in keeping Brock in the game. He's not the answer.
Edit: oh and calling the players "soft" was just fecking dumb.
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Terry Glenn just passed away. Good receiver in his day. RIP
Yeah, if Clark misses time we can basically just stop dressing for games. He played a tremendous season and got better with every game. He, Martinez and Daniels were a real bright spot on the season.
What is your assessment of Hundley? I think we might as well move on. Don’t think such bad decision making can be improved on.
I am not sure how anyone didn't see this coming with the Packers . I think we are just getting to appreciate Rodgers even more because he wins double digit games with this team every season. Belichik manages to build teams which can win without Brady sometimes ,but Packers have nothing without Rodgers.
Pretty much how I see it too. Was stupid to play Brock in the first place.
Put McCarthy in New England and take away Brady and we would lost as many if not more than the Packs. McCarthy is the real issue here, the team is more talented than this even with Hundley.
Amazing how the Dallas O-line has capitulated with a couple injuries (expect a drop off of course but didn’t expect it to be this big).
Still
‘ing at the Bills (can’t get over how ridiculous the decision was).
With Chiefs also capitulating () are Chargers a bit of a dark horse in that division with some divisional wins? Maybe a bit far back but never know.
Interesting game tonight. How will the legion of boom cope without two key pieces?
Still
‘ing at the Bills (can’t get over how ridiculous the decision was). With Chiefs also capitulating (
) are Chargers a bit of a dark horse in that division with some divisional wins? Maybe a bit far back but never know. Interesting game tonight. How will the legion of boom cope without two key pieces?
And how do you let Wade Philips leave the building when you have a defense oriented roster? It's as bad as the Bengals letting Zimmer leave before Lewis.
There's been no real issue with our rushing yards since Zeke's ban. Smith and Lee have been much bigger misses.
They also lost continuity and a drop off in talent level with Free retiring and Leary bolting to another club. It's not surprising to see a drop off when the two replacements aren't as good and then losing an all-pro LT.
The thing is, some of those runs by Morris would have probably have been longer, potentially one or two for long scores with Zeke. Zeke's vision, acceleration, and explosiveness are much higher than Morris et al. I noticed a couple decent runs by Morris that ended when he started to tap dance; reminded me of Herschel Walker back in the 80s when he knew he was going to take a shot or two.
Because Vance Joseph is the David Moyes of the NFL.
For me it's on Elway. When you have a DC like Philips it's near impossible to upgrade that position, so logically you keep him and bring someone like McVay or Shanahan to take care of the offense and you go full offense in the draft since you already have a stacked defense.
Denver going full blown crackers can be traced directly back to @Rado_N 's trip to Mile High.
Got no QB, got no running game, OL is shit. But like in all sports, the coach gets fired first.
Well Elway hired Joseph, so yea, but Wade was Joseph's call.
No denying we'd have gained more yards with Zeke, he's an elite level player. Just saying that him being missing isn't the reason for the last 2 losses.
Slightly concerned about how much Dak's game went to shit last night too. I like Dak, he has lots going for his game. He really needs to improve his distance throwing though. When we're in games where we need to get down the field quickly he rarely comes through. Romo was excellent at that.
Valid point though! Sozzo!Why do you have to be like that
I'd argue it can be traced back to when Joseph was hired, I remember ranting about him being the wrong choice and how letting Philips leave was a naive and arrogant decision that reeked of a misguided attempt to assert dominance as a defensive man himself.
Edit: but yea, shuddup
I am a bit concerned if Dak is going through the same motions that saw RGIII elevated well above his actually ceiling only to return to likely form the second season. In fairness, Washington's offense was scaled back considerably to take advantage of Griffin's limited pocket game, and also gave him room to make runs whereas Dallas has basically employed the same system they had with Romo without much tinkering.
I think Dak needs some more run options while Zeke is out granted that's an easy statement from my comfy armchair. There was a play last night, a fourth-and-one/two if memory serves, where Smith got the ball on a load-left style run - and was stuffed well short of the OL let alone the first down marker. Yet, Dak had plenty of room to run to his right there as the Eagles defense reacted to the left almost unanimously; Dak is also much quicker and shiftier than Smith. Think it was in the first offensive series against the Falcons that saw Dak run a couple run option plays for good yardage, and a score. They've seemingly gone away from that minus a handful of play calls in the Atlanta and Philly games.
Oh, and no matter how the season plays out (minus a miraculous SB appearance), Jerry needs to get rid of his puppet coach. Garrett simply isn't good enough to have lasted this long other than 1) he's a former Cowboys player, and 2) an obvious yes man. I really hope Stephen and Jerry Jr won't have the massive ego problems when they inherit full control.
He plays as good as a typical 5th round pick. He was never going to be a starter. I believe our strategy was to get develop him so we can trade him for a player as makeweight or a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. And that's all washed off now. Getting Kaep will not be any better as he has to learn the offence, get in sync with the receivers and so forth....so yeah, sticking with Brett for this season is the right move.
As to Clark injury, I think we can deem this season as a write off and not risk any players. If we finish 5-11 (maybe 6-10 as I hope we beat the Browns) we can expect a 10-13 pick in 1st round. Hopefully pick a decent player and carry on from there.
I'd argue it can be traced back to when Joseph was hired, I remember ranting about him being the wrong choice and how letting Philips leave was a naive and arrogant decision that reeked of a misguided attempt to assert dominance as a defensive man himself.
Edit: but yea, shuddup
Yeah, to be fair thats probably more accurate. Strange hiring, strange to let WP go, and now it's biting him. So reminiscent of David Moyes replacing the world class talent in coaching we had with the elite Lumsden and Neville I think it's way too early to make conclusions on Dak. Whether this is a temporary slump, which all players go through, or whether his past season and a half have been a temporary "purple patch", which players also go through. We won't know which he is until a couple seasons time with a bigger sample size.
For me personally, from what I've seen, i think he could very well be an elite QB in the making and if things go south permanently for him, it'd likely be a mental weakness (inability to overcome with confidence such a bad spell), or potentially mismanagement/miscoaching. He's got all the tangible qualities, but yet to be tested if he has the mental ones (although his ability to perform out the gates as a rookie means he must have something up there!)
RGIII comparisons are not fair though, at least IMO. He's shown an ability to do things which RGIII never could have done. i.e. some of the throws he makes, reads he makes etc.
Yep. They had a decent record before someone here decided to fly out there.
I have to disagree with you on this one, Zeke is an elite running back, he makes it so much easier of Prescott because all his throws are on 3 and short. Without Elliot you can see how much he struggles as he has to actually become the primary focus of the offence. Last 2 games without Elliot, Cowboys have only scored 16 points!
Well this wasn't a direct comparison hence why I threw in the caveats. Dak has already shown a greater ability for pocket passing.
Just on the Eagles though, I'm wondering whether they'll stack up once they get to the play-offs. No doubt they're a top team, but the last month or so when they've been getting all the hype, they have trashed teams like the Broncos, 49ers, Cardinals and Cowboys (Broncos have no offence, but a good statement win nonetheless; 49ers & Cardinals, meh; and Cowboys without Zeke Smith and Lee, so meh).
Against the better opposition this year; close win over Panthers, loss to Chiefs, and 2 middling wins over Redskins.
And in addition, 2 tight wins over Giants and Dolphins which should probably have been comfortable.
Goes to say, has this team really come up against a top contending team other than Chiefs? Not really.
The games therefore in the stretch against Rams and Seahawks will be interesting, but again with the inexperience of the Rams and injuries of the Seahawks, not sure they are "top" tests. They won't play a team with the quality of the likes of the Saints, Vikings, Patriots, Steelers etc. until the playoffs.
Perhaps I'm being harsh, perhaps they are truly the real deal, but i don't think they've had to prove it against top tier teams just yet.
Against the better opposition this year; close win over Panthers, loss to Chiefs, and 2 middling wins over Redskins.
And in addition, 2 tight wins over Giants and Dolphins which should probably have been comfortable.
Goes to say, has this team really come up against a top contending team other than Chiefs? Not really.
The games therefore in the stretch against Rams and Seahawks will be interesting, but again with the inexperience of the Rams and injuries of the Seahawks, not sure they are "top" tests. They won't play a team with the quality of the likes of the Saints, Vikings, Patriots, Steelers etc. until the playoffs.
Perhaps I'm being harsh, perhaps they are truly the real deal, but i don't think they've had to prove it against top tier teams just yet.
One of those wins over the Giants came on a ridiculous long FG attempt. We've seen Eagles teams look top tier unstoppable before and they find a way to lose come January. Fortunately for them, the NFC has no dominant side right now and they'll likely have homefield.
Aye. The home-field for them will be big I think. Certainly helped Panthers a couple years back before they capitulated in the SB. Might see some similarities in them and Eagles potentially.
The biggest advantage for the Eagles that I see is their defense is very good. Secondary looks very good and the DL can collapse the pocket. For all the hype Wentz has received, and much is warranted, many fans seemingly fail to realize that without that good defense they'd be no better than Dallas, or Washington, or whomever. Give any competent QB a great defense and see how good the team is; even better if the QB is top tier caliber.
We could have gotten Kap right after the injury. The guy didn’t have to start right away, but he would have been the best possible insurance for an outcome like this. I do honestly believe that Kap would have given us a real chance to make the playoffs.
Otherwise, I’m with you. Just lose as much as possible and get a good pick. With that pick, hopefully, we should be able to get a solid pass rusher. Though, the next draft class is supposed to be quite weak.
I have always wondered which would do better a great defense with an average QB or an average defense with a great QB? I am not even sure this has any relevance to your post, just something I have thought for a while. Only been watching NFL for a couple of years.
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