NFL 2016/17

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Wtf that looked like he just threw it away.
 
Brees' numbers are insane.

I wish he had a decent D to help him. They always seem to need to score 30+ to have a chance of winning.
 
Oakland win again. They're into the playoffs!!

Raiders have Colts & Broncos (A). Pats have Jets & Miami (A). If we both have the same record then Raiders get the #1 seed.

I think we'll get the #1 seed.
 
Rado_N said:
That's one of the worst displays I've watched.
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Didn't see the game, but saw the stats. It seemed Siemian out played Brady at least by the numbers (spare the pick). Ultimately, they are going to have to make an assessment this summer whether he is their guy because there has been a noticeable loss in quality at QB since Manning retired. They aren't going to go very deep into the playoffs playing as they have.
 
glad cowboys won. Puts a damage on Bucs for Wildcard place.

also lol @ people questioning Dax.
 
Raoul said:
Didn't see the game, but saw the stats. It seemed Siemian out played Brady at least by the numbers (spare the pick). Ultimately, they are going to have to make an assessment this summer whether he is their guy because there has been a noticeable loss in quality at QB since Manning retired. They aren't going to go very deep into the playoffs playing as they have.
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Not at all. Brady outplayed Siemian where it mattered. Got the job done, and kept on winning those 1st downs. Siemian had a few good long passes, and is a good prospect, but he desperately needs an O-line. Most of his passing yard came in the first quarter or in garbage time, so the stats lie a little. Patriots D was terrific, and the running game was alright. Brady had a below par, yet decent performance.
 
Raoul said:
Didn't see the game, but saw the stats. It seemed Siemian out played Brady at least by the numbers (spare the pick). Ultimately, they are going to have to make an assessment this summer whether he is their guy because there has been a noticeable loss in quality at QB since Manning retired. They aren't going to go very deep into the playoffs playing as they have.
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He's not the problem.
 
Was hoping Dallas would lose so we could have some late season Romo drama.
 
Really handy win for Oakland, plus the losses for Denver and KC were fantastic. Tough match against the Colts next week, plus then Denver to finish. With the Chiefs against Denver next week, I am hoping for sealing the division and a first week bye next week. Don't really want to be going into the final game with too much on the line.
 
ha_rooney said:
Was hoping Dallas would lose so we could have some late season Romo drama.
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Stafford will outplay Dak next week (throwing the winning TD late in the 4th), they'll panic and bring in Romo to whoop Philly in week 17, who remains QB1 until Giants knock them out, who will fulfill the 3LI prophecy by going 3-0 against Brady in the Superbowl
 
JarleA said:
Not at all. Brady outplayed Siemian where it mattered. Got the job done, and kept on winning those 1st downs. Siemian had a few good long passes, and is a good prospect, but he desperately needs an O-line. Most of his passing yard came in the first quarter or in garbage time, so the stats lie a little. Patriots D was terrific, and the running game was alright. Brady had a below par, yet decent performance.
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I know the Patriots are on a roll at the moment, but the Broncos this season have seen a noticeable drop in performance for four reasons.

1. Rushing Defense - The Broncos have the #2 D in the NFL, #1 Passing D, but are 28th against the run. They are allowing nearly 130 yards per game which is a recipe for disaster, compared with last year when they allowed just 83.

2. Lack of a cohesive ground game, which completely undercuts the ability to effectively use play action. Manning's experience and passing quality was sufficient to temporarily paper over the cracks last year, but the Broncos are going to have to look at RB this offseason since they haven't had a 1000 yard rusher in 3 years, which when combined with a young, inexperienced QB is a recipe for underachievement.

3. Siemian's inexperience (let's face it, he's no Manning - even a 39 year old Peyton managed to win it all last year). Siemian is doing well given his level of experience, but it's unrealistic to expect him to take the Broncos to the Super Bowl. He needs a supporting cast who can step up and fill the gaps.

4. WRs have gone missing at various times during the year. Thomas had a slow start and seemed a bit underutilized, then when he got some momentum midseason, suddenly Sanders goes anonymous. They need to integrate both of them simultaneously for maximum effectiveness

Fix numbers 1 and 2 and number three becomes more management and has a positive influence on number 4.
 
Working out well. Need Panthers to beat Washington tonight.
Then if Packers can win at home against Vikings, and see Buccs lose again (at Saints) and Cowboys defeat Lions, things will be great.
 
Being reported on various sports sites/networks that Rex Ryan already knows he is done come the end of the season, which could be awkward if they pull off a miracle and make the playoffs. They need to win out and have ALOT of help (basically every other team in the hunt for the Wildcard has to totally collapse the last two games).
 
They're not going to make the playoffs...and even if they do, they'll get spanked - Rex Ryan needs to get fired and never be allowed to be a HC in the NFL
 
JustAFan said:
Being reported on various sports sites/networks that Rex Ryan already knows he is done come the end of the season, which could be awkward if they pull off a miracle and make the playoffs. They need to win out and have ALOT of help (basically every other team in the hunt for the Wildcard has to totally collapse the last two games).
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I'd imagine the same will happen with Bruce Aryans in Arizona. Just allowed 48 points at home.
 
Haven't got a chance to watch Winston much because, well...the Bucs, but I think he has a future. Reminds me of a more mobile Big Ben (complete with the sexual assault allegations and all...).
 
Winston has to the most unathletic black skill position player in the NFL :lol: - so awkward....but, he definitely belongs in the league and his career to date has been pretty impressive.

Tbf - Winston and Mariota have both been very good for their teams
 
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Neutral said:
Winston has to the most unathletic black skill position player in the NFL :lol: - so awkward....but, he definitely belongs in the league and his career to date has been pretty impressive.

Tbf - Winston and Mariota have both been very good for their teams
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Winston will be a top player. In fact he already is. Give him a year or two and he will be in the Cam category.
 
Raoul said:
Winston will be a top player. In fact he already is. Give him a year or two and he will be in the Cam category.
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yup, ppl questioned his decision making while at FSU (he still forces it at times)...but, look at how young he is. I actually think, Winston will be a much better in the pocket QB than Cam.
 
So, no Brees for the Pro Bowl. Seems like many consider that as a real snub but he's going up against a rookie QB who has his team at 12-2, an MVP candidate in Ryan and arguably the best QB in the league Rodgers... I read that Brees is on course for his fifth 5,000+ yards season while no other QB in NFL history has done it more than once :eek:
 
RobinLFC said:
So, no Brees for the Pro Bowl. Seems like many consider that as a real snub but he's going up against a rookie QB who has his team at 12-2, an MVP candidate in Ryan and arguably the best QB in the league Rodgers... I read that Brees is on course for his fifth 5,000+ yards season while no other QB in NFL history has done it more than once :eek:
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He'll end up on the Pro Bowl squad when at least one of three you mentioned back out for one reason or another.
 
JustAFan said:
He'll end up on the Pro Bowl squad when at least one of three you mentioned back out for one reason or another.
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Yeah I think so too, most likely Dak if he's going to the SB.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
Feck. Cowboys' fans will be insufferable for the near-term future.

Even more insufferable than usual...
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Zeke, Brady, Carr. In that order for me. Honourable mentions to Ryan, Stafford, Rodgers, Bell, Mack and Von Miller.
 
RobinLFC said:
Zeke, Brady, Carr. In that order for me. Honourable mentions to Ryan, Stafford, Rodgers, Bell, Mack and Von Miller.
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I'd put Ryan instead of Carr in my top 3 but agree with your 1 & 2 and their order. It's easy to overlook that Atlanta has one of the leagues worst defences which makes it pretty special that he has done what he's done. Granted you could say that he's got good receivers a la Julio.

Question is does it count against or for Zeke that he's a rookie? As far as I know no rookie has ever won the league MVP.
 
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