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I think that's a huge part of it. There is just no way these guys bodies' could hold up to more games.

In college football they play at the same time than the NFL and play in spring too, right ?
 
Oh okay.

The conditioning time is pretty long 6 months is the duration needed, if you want to end a complete program without burnout.
I also think that it is best to play all the games in a short period of time (4 months) that gives a lot of air time and audience to the others major sports.
 
I think that's a huge part of it. There is just no way these guys bodies' could hold up to more games.
Also I don't necessarily agree that football is tougher than rugby. Having broken half my body playing rugby, I'd sure appreciate the pads. I've never played football though so can't insist.

Surely there's enough high quality players to make it a squad game like our football? America's other sports generally suck so I'm OK with them not getting airtime.

I'm just surprised (and frustrated) America's biggest sport is such a brief thing I guess. You'd expect you guys to squeeze as much out of it as possible.
 
The NFL probably is more demanding than rugby. Most NFL players don't know how to tackle properly and cause numerous injuries as a result.
 
Also I don't necessarily agree that football is tougher than rugby. Having broken half my body playing rugby, I'd sure appreciate the pads. I've never played football though so can't insist.

Surely there's enough high quality players to make it a squad game like our football? America's other sports generally suck so I'm OK with them not getting airtime.

I'm just surprised (and frustrated) America's biggest sport is such a brief thing I guess. You'd expect you guys to squeeze as much out of it as possible.

It's the brain injuries that are the biggest issues. Look up CTE. It's scary stuff. I would never let my kids play football.
 
It's the brain injuries that are the biggest issues. Look up CTE. It's scary stuff. I would never let my kids play football.

There is concussion tests in every rugby games, and a player is benched in probably 1 out 3 games, every weeks.
 


Sorry I can't see the video, but I follow the NFL and know that it is a real problem. The 6-7 months are good for the players health but I still don't understand how they can struggle with concussions that much, when I know that rugby has a lot of concussions but seems less affected by the consequences.

It's like when you make the comparison with soccer, rugby players comeback faster from broken bones or ligament tears, I don't know why.
 
Sorry I can't see the video, but I follow the NFL and know that it is a real problem. The 6-7 months are good for the players health but I still don't understand how they can struggle with concussions that much, when I know that rugby has a lot of concussions but seems less affected by the consequences.

It's like when you make the comparison with soccer, rugby players comeback faster from broken bones or ligament tears, I don't know why.
The governing body just hasnt been sued yet, it might not be this year or next year but it will happen like it has in the NFL, I cant remember the figure but it was massive, since then i think its got more stringent in terms of concussion, when you look at rugby the players are getting bigger, and faster the impacts are getting harder.

The teams have to cop on when it comes to concussions remember North against England just recently Irish captain O'Connell has admitted he cant remember his début, Wilkinson was talking about it recently as well, it may take 5 to 10 years for the effects of Rugby's immature stance on concussions to show its effect on the retired players.
 
The teams have to cop on when it comes to concussions remember North against England just recently Irish captain O'Connell has admitted he cant remember his début, Wilkinson was talking about it recently as well, it may take 5 to 10 years for the effects of Rugby's immature stance on concussions to show its effect on the retired players.

The stance isn't immature, though. There is a protocol to respect, SBW didn't play last week despite the fact that he passed the test two weeks ago, and he only trained after 10 days.
When I was in highschool we weren't able to play after a concussion, for 21 days. Now I saw weird things mainly in the north hemisphere, but the board isn't responsible for that, it's some clubs and some federations who can be reckless.
 
Sorry I can't see the video, but I follow the NFL and know that it is a real problem. The 6-7 months are good for the players health but I still don't understand how they can struggle with concussions that much, when I know that rugby has a lot of concussions but seems less affected by the consequences.

It's like when you make the comparison with soccer, rugby players comeback faster from broken bones or ligament tears, I don't know why.

Part of it is the sheer idiocy of the players. They wear helmets and padding, and as a result they launch themselves into tackles head first, do helmet to helmet hits etc. It's called the Superman effect. Rugby players don't have the padding so they're more likely to go for a wrap up tackle, with good technique and avoid concussion. Very few NFL players actually tackle with good technique.
 
Part of it is the sheer idiocy of the players. They wear helmets and padding, and as a result they launch themselves into tackles head first, do helmet to helmet hits etc. It's called the Superman effect. Rugby players don't have the padding so they're more likely to go for a wrap up tackle, with good technique and avoid concussion. Very few NFL players actually tackle with good technique.

Yeah I agree with you, I thought about it an hour ago, you don't see rugby players trying to stop runners with their head, and the tackling techniques are bad.
NFL players also take huge risks with their shoulder articulations, when they try to catch someone with the arms totally extended.
 
While the head injuries get the most headlines now the game takes a huge toll on players legs, hips, backs,shoulders, necks,etc. remember an article in SI over 20 years ago about what the game had done to many players from the 60's and 70's.

Also remember the NFL has not always been the top dog. Not only were the behind baseball but played 2nd fiddle to college football up until the late 50's early 60's. by time the NFL became top dog the seasons for the various major sports became set sort of.
 
Breaking News: Aaron Hernandez found guilty of first degree murder. Life in prison with no parole.
 
Hernandez could have been one of the best tight ends in the league for a decade, only Graham and Gronk were better. Rest in Peace Odin Lloyd.

On a pragmatic note, I read an article a while back saying that the Pats can claim back the money they had to continue paying him now that he's been found guilty
 
Like everybody else, i just can't fathom the thought process behind someone with such a bright future choosing to get involved in such nonsense.
 
Also I don't necessarily agree that football is tougher than rugby. Having broken half my body playing rugby, I'd sure appreciate the pads. I've never played football though so can't insist.

Surely there's enough high quality players to make it a squad game like our football? America's other sports generally suck so I'm OK with them not getting airtime.

I'm just surprised (and frustrated) America's biggest sport is such a brief thing I guess. You'd expect you guys to squeeze as much out of it as possible.

Having played both I would agree that football is much tougher on the body than rugby. The collisions are more violent. Part of this can be attributed to the pads - someone already mentioned the superman effect of wearing pads and how it can lead you to taking more chances with how you tackle.

I would also say that is is easier to perform a text book wrap up tackle in rugby than in football, as the shoulder pads allow for less freedom of motion. I played flanker / No.8 in rugby and linebacker in football and noticed that I was often tackling differently to how I did in rugby.

The other factor is the stop-start nature of the games, versus the more continuous flow of rugby. I think that drives the intensity of each hit / tackle, as players are going at full speed on each play.

Loved playing both games - and am not trying to suggest that rugby is easy on the body or anything like that!
 
Like everybody else, i just can't fathom the thought process behind someone with such a bright future choosing to get involved in such nonsense.

Exactly this.

I saw this on twitter:

Where Aaron Hernandez will spend the rest of his life top left. Gillette Stadium bottom right.

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There hasn't even been any explanation or motive given as to why he chose to throw his life away.
 
Exactly this.

I saw this on twitter:

Where Aaron Hernandez will spend the rest of his life top left. Gillette Stadium bottom right.

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There hasn't even been any explanation or motive given as to why he chose to throw his life away.


Man, that's about 1.5 miles away (as the crow flies!). He'll hear the crowd on game day.
 
Hernandez could have been one of the best tight ends in the league for a decade, only Graham and Gronk were better. Rest in Peace Odin Lloyd.

On a pragmatic note, I read an article a while back saying that the Pats can claim back the money they had to continue paying him now that he's been found guilty

I assume you mean going forward because Witten is a future HOFer and Vernon Davis is no slouch either.
 
I assume you mean going forward because Witten is a future HOFer and Vernon Davis is no slouch either.

Yeah I meant going forward. He was a really unique match up problem. It was like playing a wide receiver at tight end, he could be moved around out wide or run it out the backfield. Wasted talent.

Oh and I really think Vernon Davis has fallen off recently, though not sure if that is an effect of the 49'ers troubles. Chicken and egg situation.
 
Like everybody else, i just can't fathom the thought process behind someone with such a bright future choosing to get involved in such nonsense.
He's not a normal person. Guilt for one murder, still under trial for two other and because of lack of evidence was dismissed for a 4th one. Some possible serial killer mentality right there.
 
Yeah I meant going forward. He was a really unique match up problem. It was like playing a wide receiver at tight end, he could be moved around out wide or run it out the backfield. Wasted talent.

Oh and I really think Vernon Davis has fallen off recently, though not sure if that is an effect of the 49'ers troubles. Chicken and egg situation.

The tight end position is much more dimensional these days and Hernandez did have that athletic ability to be utilized in a variety of schemes.

Vernon Davis and San Francisco... perhaps their 2014 season was akin to Moyes and United 2013-14... maybe things will be back on track in 2015 for Davis (and maybe the club too).
 
Tebow will officially be offered a contract by the Eagles. He still has to compete with Bradford, Sanchez, Barkley, and Kinne, so for now it's simply headlines and a circus showing. I can't imagine how a QB that can't complete 50% of his passes offers anything to a professional offense, even a gimmick that is Chip Kelly's system. I suppose he could take a snap here and there and run/option, make a play or two.

It's being rumored that Tebow has improved his mechanics considerably but I'm not buying that until I witness it. I don't think he makes the opening day roster unless a) he completely outplays Barkley and Kinne, b) something catastrophic happens to Bradford and/or Sanchez, or c) two players are traded/released. And that's without knowing what Fat Chip does during and after the draft. It's still tantalizing for him to move up and draft Mariota, though I don't envision it happening.

I've received a bet from a Lions fan on Tebow being the Eagles starter by the end of October at the latest. He only likes Tebow due to his religious preference.
 
Steelers-Pats to open the season.

Pats schedule seems decent. Early bye week is annoying. I'm looking forward to the games against Philly, Giants and, of course, Denver.
 
Steelers-Pats to open the season.

Pats schedule seems decent. Early bye week is annoying. I'm looking forward to the games against Philly, Giants and, of course, Denver.
Sick of playing Denver and old man Manning at this stage. 10 of 16 games against the same opposition every year. It'd be nice if they mixed it up with the NFC teams a bit more.
 
Just checked the schedule and it looks like I might in Denver when they're playing KC Chiefs, would be pretty damn awesome if we could get tickets for the game :drool:
 
Tebow said he'd been working on his mechanics before he signed with the Patriots...then training camp rolled around and he couldn't find his man on a quick slant. He can't play.

As for Philly: I reckon they made a mistake giving Kelly full control over personnel decisions. His eccentricities won't play well there and he'll be sacked at the end of the year.
 
Steelers-Pats to open the season.

Pats schedule seems decent. Early bye week is annoying. I'm looking forward to the games against Philly, Giants and, of course, Denver.

Bell out for the first three games too so a big bonus for you to be playing us then.

Schedule isn't great. End run is looking tough. After our bye in week 11 we have:

@ Seahawks
vs. Colts
@ Bengals
vs. Broncos
@ Ravens

Five of our final six games, the last one is at the Browns. Thankfully have a good run in going into the bye week as we play the Bengals, Raiders and Browns all at home and then have a good rest in the lead in to the Seahawks game.
 
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