A great manager but so over-rated...
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God, no
Pep's next step is England, and probably would take the United job if it was offered to him, but he'd be off in 3-4 years, another sabbatical, then back to Barça for good hopefully. Frank De Boer, I think would be happy to stay at United for a decent amount of time if he was to become United's next manager.
Obviously Pep, Klopp, or Mourinho would be the leading contenders.
Yes please.
Not a fan of top managers ehh ?
I dont like Guardiola. Everybody has his opinions, but there is something i dont like about him, probably his extremly posession based football. If Klopp or Ancelotti became available, i would prefer both of them over Pep.
definitely would not say no.
one of the top managers in the game these days and could be available for a new adventure when LVG steps down. the only downside is that he is not the type who stays for 10 years. well nobody does that today so 3 or 4 years under him after 3 or 4 years under LVG sounds good imo.
one of the top managers in the game these days and could be available for a new adventure when LVG steps down. the only downside is that he is not the type who stays for 10 years. well nobody does that today so 3 or 4 years under him after 3 or 4 years under LVG sounds good imo.
Like many there is something I don't like about the prospect of Pep managing us.
He inherited an incredible set of players at Barcelona, and then moved to a team that could probably win the German league without any manager at all. How will he perform when the team isn't perfect, when the competition is intense on a weekly basis or when he needs to rebuild? Those are all challenges he would face with us. He had the chance to show what he would do at Barcelona but jumped ship to Bayern.
He inherited an incredible set of players at Barcelona, and then moved to a team that could probably win the German league without any manager at all. How will he perform when the team isn't perfect, when the competition is intense on a weekly basis or when he needs to rebuild? Those are all challenges he would face with us. He had the chance to show what he would do at Barcelona but jumped ship to Bayern.
That'd be fantastic. I want someone like him and not someone like Bourinho.
Ancelotti arguably has had better players to work with throughout his career as a manager, but like Pep it's still his job to make the best of the players he's got at his disposal. Every managerial appointment has it's risks, Klopp has his legion of fans on here, but how would he perform when his team is the favourite to win league titles, and expected to do well year in year out in the champions league?
Its not unusual for top managers to go to top clubs and inherit good sides. I reckon Pep would be fantastic at United, especially if we're already half Spanish.
Exactly. It's the managers job to make the best use of the resources and players at his disposal.
Would definitely love him here in 3 seasons time.
What I want to know is....where did Pep learn the word 'feck'?
I thought that it was only us Irish that use that!
I thought that it was only us Irish that use that!
God, that would really get on Mourinho's tits if his enermy were to get the United job before him. Sign him up! 
Seriously, though, over the last couple of years, I've kind of got bored watching Pep's teams play. Don't get me wrong, what he did at Barca was incredible, and I doubt we'll ever see a team like that again, but I think he's become a bit predictable, and seems too stubborn to adapt to how other teams play.
After Van Gaal, I'd personally want Klopp or Giggs, depending on how much he's learnt. Actually ye, give Giggsy a shot. He can be our Pep.
Seriously, though, over the last couple of years, I've kind of got bored watching Pep's teams play. Don't get me wrong, what he did at Barca was incredible, and I doubt we'll ever see a team like that again, but I think he's become a bit predictable, and seems too stubborn to adapt to how other teams play.
After Van Gaal, I'd personally want Klopp or Giggs, depending on how much he's learnt. Actually ye, give Giggsy a shot. He can be our Pep.
Possibly from the Caf?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...lues-that-have-made-barcelona-and-spain-great
Guillem Balague goes some way towards explaining why Pep doesn't like the term tiki taka. Admittedly it's not the best article but it might shed some light.
Why are all the papers coming out with this now? His book came out in August.
I guess all the papers are running with this story today.
dont even think about pep.It's very likely. He's not going to coach another team in Bundesliga or La Liga (implying that he won't go back to Barca after Bayern so soon). He has a past in Italy as a player and speaks the language but I don't see him managing in the current state of Serie A. England is the likeliest destination after Bayern. Don't see Mourinho leaving anytime soon so Chelsea won't be it. Should be between United, Arsenal and City.
Wouldn't be a bad thing at all. He is clearly a good manager, despite some people putting alot of his success down to having such a great core of players. Ideally we would have LVG for a few successful years and then when he retires, someone like Pep can come in.
If LvG fails then, logically, we should look for the most proven manager we can find as we'll be in no state to take a punt. In that scenario Pep is one of the top names on the list.
If LvG succeeds then, logically, we'll want a top manager who'll be able to smoothly handle the transition and get the best out of the squad LvG has assembled. In that scenario Pep is one of the top names on the list.
It would seem like a natural fit for both us and Guardiola if the timing ends up being right, especially as LvG would likely leave behind a squad that is quite compatible with Pep's philosophy.
That said, I'm sure some idiots would prefer to see Giggs take over instead (he says without reading through the thread to see if anyone has made that point yet)...
If LvG succeeds then, logically, we'll want a top manager who'll be able to smoothly handle the transition and get the best out of the squad LvG has assembled. In that scenario Pep is one of the top names on the list.
It would seem like a natural fit for both us and Guardiola if the timing ends up being right, especially as LvG would likely leave behind a squad that is quite compatible with Pep's philosophy.
That said, I'm sure some idiots would prefer to see Giggs take over instead (he says without reading through the thread to see if anyone has made that point yet)...
I'd love to see him here, but I doubt it will happen. Giggs seems to be groomed for the job once LvG retires. It's been hinted several times now.
I reckon he will go to Arsenal or City when he decides to leave Bayern. I can only see him joining us, if he decides to go to Italy first after his stint in Germany and Giggs as our manager doesn't work out.
I reckon he will go to Arsenal or City when he decides to leave Bayern. I can only see him joining us, if he decides to go to Italy first after his stint in Germany and Giggs as our manager doesn't work out.
Its going to happen IMO. Can't see van Gaal here for more than three years and after that it'll be almost perfect for Pep to join us.
The idea that Glazers will appoint Giggsy without proper due diligence is extremely stupid. Some were here doubting that we'd even sack Moyes because we are not that kind of club but we are these days. Woodward is ruthless.
The idea that Glazers will appoint Giggsy without proper due diligence is extremely stupid. Some were here doubting that we'd even sack Moyes because we are not that kind of club but we are these days. Woodward is ruthless.
I don't think LvG will fail. He will most likely manage out his 3 years and retire, or possibly even extend for a few. Astonishingly, Pep is still only 43 and would be 46 or thereabouts if he took over at United. Imagine the Mourinho v Guardiola rivalry.
It would be insanely bitter, even on a good day it'd be as bad SAF v Wenger at its worst. Which in one way wouldn't be a bad thing either. Those years where United and Arsenal seemed to hate each other were an awful lot of fun really.
Giggs becoming United's manager after having managed only 4 games experience as a manger would be a mistake. Yes, he will have learnt from Ferguson and Van Gaal but that doesn't guarantee anything.God, that would really get on Mourinho's tits if his enermy were to get the United job before him. Sign him up!
Seriously, though, over the last couple of years, I've kind of got bored watching Pep's teams play. Don't get me wrong, what he did at Barca was incredible, and I doubt we'll ever see a team like that again, but I think he's become a bit predictable, and seems too stubborn to adapt to how other teams play.
After Van Gaal, I'd personally want Klopp or Giggs, depending on how much he's learnt. Actually ye, give Giggsy a shot. He can be our Pep.
Van Gaal wasn't fired or struggled because he didn't respect our traditions. I don't think we have a specific traditional playing style like Barca does and while the fans and board demand exciting attacking football to a certain degree, it's still mainly about winning. Rummenigge and Nerlinger backed van Gaal, even extended his contract at the end of 2010 despite our horrible form in the league. Hoeness intervened and more or less got him fired, when van Gaal struggled to reach a CL spot in the league (we were only 4th with only 4 or 5 games to go) and when the chemistry within the team was completely gone and the players started fighting with each other. We gave van Gaal the job to bring a playing philosophy into the club and everyone, even Hoeness, agrees that he has done a great job with it. He got fired because the team's performances were shockingly bad for a whole season. That's it.
Signing Guardiola to build on that foundation was clearly the best decision we could make and Rummenigge and Sammer don't get tired repeating that he's the best manager in the world and that they want him to stay for years. He has free reign when it comes to tactics, they're behind him 100%. Of course it could change quickly, but for now I doubt it. If Pep wants to stay longterm, he will. I'd argue that he's more influential in our player transfers than any other manager before as well.
Also all the criticism towards our playing style was completely blown out of proportion. None of the board members ever criticised him, it was just Beckenbauer making a stupid comment as a tv pundit, but you should take him as seriously as Pele or Cruyff these days. He just talks and talks and changes his mind about things twice a week. He's not directly involved at the club anymore besides his honorary position, which means nothing. If I'm not mistaken, he personally apologised to Guardiola for his comment.
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This. No chance that Giggs is simply handed over the reigns.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pep wanted to come here for the long term as well. I remember him praising our support of the manager and I think he'd also like the decision making monopoly that United managers get.
You want moyes back?
Wouldn't be disappointed with Pep. His philosophy doesn't exactly match the 'traditional' style of our club but he's hardly dour and/or defensive. I'd be more than happy.
When I first read the article I thought it was just a throwaway comment that the papers are blowing out of proportion, but apparently he said the same about us and Bayern in 2011, and he's their manager now so...
What I took from the DM article was how the Bayern board approached him early, and I suppose if it were to happen Woodward would have to do the same. I hope LvG is successful here and stays a fairly long time, but succession planning is something the club have been criticised heavily for in the last couple of years so seeing as LvG has confirmed this will be his last job, it makes sense that we start planning, at least tentatively, for the future without him. I think Giggs learning under him is part of that, but it can't be our only option.
When I first read the article I thought it was just a throwaway comment that the papers are blowing out of proportion, but apparently he said the same about us and Bayern in 2011, and he's their manager now so...
What I took from the DM article was how the Bayern board approached him early, and I suppose if it were to happen Woodward would have to do the same. I hope LvG is successful here and stays a fairly long time, but succession planning is something the club have been criticised heavily for in the last couple of years so seeing as LvG has confirmed this will be his last job, it makes sense that we start planning, at least tentatively, for the future without him. I think Giggs learning under him is part of that, but it can't be our only option.
@Balu
Cheers ! That seems a more balanced view compared to some of the sensationalist media reports I came across.
Cheers ! That seems a more balanced view compared to some of the sensationalist media reports I came across.
I always had the feeling that the history of the club is really important to Pep. He definitely enjoys working at a club where former greats are still present. He really loves the game and has huge respect for the players and clubs who defined it in previous eras. He really is a romantic and there's a good chance that he feels similar about United than he did about Bayern. It definitely wasn't a throwaway comment, I'm pretty sure it means a lot to him.
His philosophy mightn't suit your "tradition", but I think Van Gaal is going to end having changed United's style to a more possession based one.
If he does end up moving to England next, it seems like it's either Unietd, City or Arsenal. Where do you think he'd end up?
Well for starters, the first two sentences of his post rule City out :
Might well be a tossup between United and Arsenal with the loser getting Klopp as a consolation. Not a bad turn of events at all.
Can't see him going to City, both Arsenal and United should be exciting challenges for him. Of course I hope he stays at Bayern for a very long time, but if he leaves, I'd love to see him at Arsenal following Wenger and Giggs becoming a surprising instant success at United.
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