Poch will be our next manager, and sooner than we think.
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Pochs lost the dressing room at Spurs
Julien Laurens also said that United haven't approached Pochettino but he's on a shortlist.
Hard to get excited about some of these names when the upper hierachy is so fecking clueless about football.
Rob Dawson ESPN: "But the German coach, (Nagelsmann) only 33, has admirers at Old Trafford who would push his case if the club become involved in a search for a new manager".
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I want to believe we're looking at more than just Poch, I just don't have any faith in our board.
Maybe Ole should handle the recruitment of the next manager. He'd probably do a better job than Ed
Any mentioned Wenger?
I dont necessarily agree he should be. But, if Ole is sacked, and all the rumblings would suggest it's only a matter of time. Your options are limited to Poch or Allegri who are free. I'm no expert, but I don't really think either is right, they may be better tacticians but style is important I don't think either plays the right style.
If your trying to poach a manager from another team, then don't think any of them that are being touted as good enough would leave to join at this stage
So Wenger. Only as interim until the end of the season, if anyone can get through to a couple of sulky inconsistent Frenchmen it's him. Other than that I think his approach would suit the attacking players, the forwards like to come inside, high leaves the team quite narrow. He's excellent at getting full backs to get forward and contribute.
I dont necessarily agree he should be. But, if Ole is sacked, and all the rumblings would suggest it's only a matter of time. Your options are limited to Poch or Allegri who are free. I'm no expert, but I don't really think either is right, they may be better tacticians but style is important I don't think either plays the right style.
If your trying to poach a manager from another team, then don't think any of them that are being touted as good enough would leave to join at this stage
So Wenger. Only as interim until the end of the season, if anyone can get through to a couple of sulky inconsistent Frenchmen it's him. Other than that I think his approach would suit the attacking players, the forwards like to come inside, high leaves the team quite narrow. He's excellent at getting full backs to get forward and contribute.
I think if Dawson it right then i'm gonna assume it's the likes of Bout and Lawlor who are pushing the case for Nagelsmann. Woodward is desperate to get the next appointment right so he may take heed and the penny might finally drop.
Nah. No more than Ole losing the dressing room now.
The Poch rumours worry me. I think he’s a good manager but not sure if he’s much of an upgrade from Ole’s playing style when we play well.
Saints, Gladbach, RBL managers in that order for me. Bielsa would be ahead of them but don’t think he’d even return Ed’s call. I doesn’t bother me that they haven’t got lots of silverware to show off, I feel their football is a reflection of the modern game and how footballers want to play the game these days.
We have a huge squad that could easily cope with a hi press, hard working game but we don’t play it currently. We also have a really talented squad that could adapt to most styles.
Saints, Gladbach, RBL managers in that order for me. Bielsa would be ahead of them but don’t think he’d even return Ed’s call. I doesn’t bother me that they haven’t got lots of silverware to show off, I feel their football is a reflection of the modern game and how footballers want to play the game these days.
We have a huge squad that could easily cope with a hi press, hard working game but we don’t play it currently. We also have a really talented squad that could adapt to most styles.
Why don't you try and lure Ten Haag and Van Der Sar from Ajax? Admittedly both would have to want to go and Ajax would have to agree to it but there's no harm in trying.
Would hope Allegri would be one of the options furthest down the shortlist, the fans who despised LVG's and Jose's pragmatic brand of football would be in for another serving under him
I like all the names we're being linked with except Allegri. I really can't handle another manager whose main quality is being pragmatic.
Nagelsman will be good. Asides from him being the highest rated young coach right now, I feel he has the character a United manager should have.
I really hope we get Poch in think he did a fantastic job at Spurs.
I will admit to knowing little about Rose and wouldn't expect to see Nagelsmann in the prem for a couple of years yet.
I like what I have seen from Hasenhuttl and can now see where the Klopp of the alps thing comes from a bit. However thing he wants to build something at Southampton for the moment.
We are up against them after WBA so be interesting to see if he imposes that pressing on us again.
I like what I have seen from Hasenhuttl and can now see where the Klopp of the alps thing comes from a bit. However thing he wants to build something at Southampton for the moment.
We are up against them after WBA so be interesting to see if he imposes that pressing on us again.
Allegri or Ten Hag and I'll be a very happy camper.
I can’t see it makes much difference. DoF or no DoF, whoever comes in will have to cope with working for Ed Woodward
A quadumvirate of Moyesy, LvG, Jose and Ole should be able to come up with something.
Wenger was who I wanted as interim when Jose was sacked. Not only would he have done a decent job in the short term for the reasons you give, but he could also have taken an objective look at the way things were and advised the board accordingly. Though knowing our lot he’d probably have been ignored.
He’s now over 70, and been out of the game too long I think.
I also had the thought of Wenger as an interim today morning. But it won't happen for 3 reasons:
1) Wenger was not in the job for a long time and the board would not approach him.
2) Wenger wouldn't want to spoil his reputation & mental health as United's job is not as easy as Arsenal's job.
3) Poch is available and Woodward has already lined him up as the next manager when Ole gets the sack.
Ten Hag is a great recommendation, a few Ajax fans have mentioned negatives about his management but his influence on the team is very apparent in how fluid they play. I like others reinstate that the importance is for the club to install a manager with a direction, philosophy and the right leadership qualities.
I'm not at all displeased with the likes of Poch, Nagelsmann, Rose or Ten Hag. They are better than what we have looked for previously especially in Mourinho / Moyes. They are also better than Solskjaer for me personally. Ole is not a bad manager but lacks what it takes to excel at the higher level of the game. He's a perfect mid-table manager our points tally last season along with our consistency as a team highlights this significantly.
I'm not at all displeased with the likes of Poch, Nagelsmann, Rose or Ten Hag. They are better than what we have looked for previously especially in Mourinho / Moyes. They are also better than Solskjaer for me personally. Ole is not a bad manager but lacks what it takes to excel at the higher level of the game. He's a perfect mid-table manager our points tally last season along with our consistency as a team highlights this significantly.
Looking at the win percentage of each managers whom do you want:
Pochettino
Nagelsmann
Marco Rose
Ole
Ole's record at United & Poch's record at Spurs looks very similar in terms of Win%, Loss% etc. Pochettino's overall Win% is the worst of all these 4 managers.
Nagelsmann looks the slightly when comparing his RB Leipzig performance to Marco Rose's BM performances.
I welcomed the idea of having Poch in but looking at the above records, I will take either of Rose or Nagelsmann over Poch.
Pochettino
| Team | G | W | D | L | Win% |
| Espanyol | 161 | 53 | 38 | 70 | 32.9 |
| Southampton | 60 | 23 | 18 | 19 | 38.3 |
| Tottenham Hotspur | 293 | 159 | 62 | 72 | 54.3 |
| Total | 514 | 235 | 118 | 161 | 45.7 |
Nagelsmann
| Team | G | W | D | L | Win% |
| 1899 Hoffenheim | 136 | 55 | 43 | 38 | 40.44 |
| RB Leipzig | 57 | 33 | 15 | 9 | 57.89 |
| Total | 193 | 88 | 58 | 47 | 45.60 |
Marco Rose
| Team | G | W | D | L | Win% |
| Lokomotive Leipzig | 30 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 30 |
| Red Bull Salzburg | 114 | 81 | 23 | 10 | 71.05 |
| Borussia Mönchengladbach | 52 | 28 | 11 | 13 | 53.85 |
| Total | 196 | 118 | 43 | 35 | 60.20 |
Ole
| Team | G | W | D | L | Win% |
| Molde | 126 | 69 | 26 | 31 | 54.76 |
| Cardiff City | 30 | 9 | 5 | 16 | 30 |
| Molde | 118 | 66 | 19 | 33 | 55.93 |
| Manchester United | 101 | 55 | 21 | 25 | 54.46 |
| Total | 375 | 199 | 71 | 105 | 53.07 |
Ole's record at United & Poch's record at Spurs looks very similar in terms of Win%, Loss% etc. Pochettino's overall Win% is the worst of all these 4 managers.
Nagelsmann looks the slightly when comparing his RB Leipzig performance to Marco Rose's BM performances.
I welcomed the idea of having Poch in but looking at the above records, I will take either of Rose or Nagelsmann over Poch.
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Rose or Nagelsmann.
None of this washed out managers without a job.
Who the feck hires a man without a job? Top shit headhunters steal people from top tier companies because of their work.
Offer them a job - they'd be mad to refuse. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
You get this right - you're at the top. Win the first post Fergie league title? You'd be a fecking LEGEND.
Get a stand on Old Trafford kind of legend.
Get them both ASAP - do a cage rage fight, who wants it more is the new manager.
None of this washed out managers without a job.
Who the feck hires a man without a job? Top shit headhunters steal people from top tier companies because of their work.
Offer them a job - they'd be mad to refuse. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
You get this right - you're at the top. Win the first post Fergie league title? You'd be a fecking LEGEND.
Get a stand on Old Trafford kind of legend.
Get them both ASAP - do a cage rage fight, who wants it more is the new manager.
not a fan of Poch, but he did manage to create a pretty solid unit at Spurs. so did other two guys. I am looking for a style, a good coach and style that goes well with our tradition. Have to go with Rose with what I have seen. but i am no expert.
We're too early in this club's fall from grace for Rose or Nagelsmann. They'd be wasted at the moment.
Poch would be fine. He'll inevitably fail, but he'll hopefully start tom change the culture at this club (most importantly in the areas of coaching, style of play and intensity of training) which will set the foundation for someone like Rose of Nagelsmann in a few years.
Poch would be fine. He'll inevitably fail, but he'll hopefully start tom change the culture at this club (most importantly in the areas of coaching, style of play and intensity of training) which will set the foundation for someone like Rose of Nagelsmann in a few years.
Pochettino has managed 300+ more matches than the first 2, including almost double the amount of matches managed in the Premier League than they have so far. Let's see how their percentage looks after the same level of experience
Reaching a Champions League final at a club like Spurs, on a smaller budget than Leipzig, with mostly homegrown players and players he developed into stars is also more impressive than anything they've managed to this point.
Disregarding what he was able to establish during his time in North London for the hipster manager options du jour is laughable to me.
Sure German managers are en vogue right now like Dutch,Portuguese and Italian managers were before them but that doesn't mean an option like Poch is somehow lesser than. Bringing him on to a top club with massive resources like ours would be quite the formidable partnership in my eyes
Fergie, Moyesy, Louis, Jose, Ole... Rosey?
Pochy?
Julie?
Nah, not cutting it for me.
Pochy?
Julie?
Nah, not cutting it for me.
Marco and Nagalsmann are in a much easier league.
Doesn't really matter till Woodward and his ilk control everything. We will have a cycle of good games, before going bust.
Woodward doesn't decide our tactics, lineups etc. the on pitch stuff isn't his doing, so seems a bit daft to put the blame of our shite performances at his door. He is however a big part of a larger issue within the club.
No one is putting the blame of shit performance on Woodward. Woodward plays a larger role in deciding if we continue to play well season after season. We can have a momentary turn of fortunes with a new manager. How long that would last is anyone's guess.
Looking at Poch’s record he has the same issue as OGS, when they don’t win they lose more than they draw.
I would love Nagelsmann as our next manager, but really don’t expect he to leave mid season.
Poch is the most attainable and I expect he will be the next manager
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Brendan
feck no. Scouse cnut.
Good job you weren't born when Sir Matt was manager
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