The problem is your fanbase is so risk averse.
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The problem is your fanbase is so risk averse.
You want to turn OT into Emptyhad with our fans preferring to stay at home?Joachim Löw is available
yeah not convinced with that, but Conte is an exceptional manager so wouldn't question it.
His main complaint has always been clubs not spending enough basically. We are (in)famous for overspending if anything. He’ll love it here.
Rogers or Ten Hag.
Zidane is waiting to replace Deschamps after the next World Cup.
Conte is a brilliant brilliant manager but i am not sold on his style. I want to see attacking football where we pass the ball into the net like City do.
Can we not get Luis Enrique?
I liked his Barcelona side - though I'm not sure if that's a bit post Pep effect.
Still great side.
I liked his Barcelona side - though I'm not sure if that's a bit post Pep effect.
Still great side.
Ex Liverpool and serial bottler? No Ty. Try for ten hag, even though I doubt we have the players for his style. Try for for one of the up and coming Germans. My main focus would be tempting Zidane, I think his style would be perfect.
As good a managers Zidane and Conte both are I personally hope we steer clear and instead bring in a coach with a attack minded approach to the game that has the potential to excite the fans. Nagelsmann and Rose don't look like viable options as things stand due to only joining Bayern and Dortmund recently. So I'm personally hoping we go for a coach who understands the requirements for the modern game and would hope we look at Ten Hag, who I believe coaches a exciting brand of football which in it's nature looks to exert control over the opposition. He's also someone that has shown he can develop youth and help a team punch above their weight whilst competing against the best in Europe. And contrary to what's been said about him in here, I believe he would have the tools already at the club to implement his style of play.
And I firmly believe if we were to win the league or UCL under Ten Hag it would live long in the memory due to the exciting brand of football he would likely have us playing imo.
And I firmly believe if we were to win the league or UCL under Ten Hag it would live long in the memory due to the exciting brand of football he would likely have us playing imo.
His Spanish team played good football at the euros.
No one out there to take over and do any better I think. Unless you want to go get after Another unproven manger, the likes of G Potter, but haven't utd done that, it hasn't worked. Maybe Conte? Now Tuchel was the only one for me after PSG. Zidane doesn't want the job. So I think we have to stick with the inconsistent last 2 seasons . Up down up down. Nearly there oh maybe next season . That's it I think been there through the 80s , but we did get a few cups. Looks like we get nothing forever and ever now just a well supported club hoping every year.
I think most people feel similar to you but I don't think anyone wants to wait until the off season which is what it would take for someone like Ten Hag. Conte and Zidane are both available now and could immediately slot in as an upgrade and command the respect from the players that Ole doesn't. Maybe they don't work long term but there's no reason to believe that their appointments have to be long term if it doesn't work out. All I know is that Ole isn't a good manager and we need a change ASAP to salvage a season. Maybe it backfires more, but I'm tired of the club taking the long approach and always playing it safe.
Is wenger available ?
This. The Glazers only ever sacked one manager outside the 'failed to make Champions League' clause and that was only because Jose baited them into it to get more money.
I have to say I'm coming round to wishing someone like Conte running the club and being allowed to pick his own background staff.
Ole has done a good job but if he doesn't win a trophy this season and maintain a top two position then there is no reason to keep the faith in him
Ole has done a good job but if he doesn't win a trophy this season and maintain a top two position then there is no reason to keep the faith in him
Now is the time for Ole to stand aside.. The time is right for me and lad's from my local to step in as manager and coaching staff to save our season..
I'd rather go for him than letting City go for Enrique.
I can imagine city going for him a bit like how Enrique managed Barcelona well after Pep.
We are not going to make a change until CL football looks impossible to get, we have seen this story for last eight years. We've only sacked managers when CL football is in question, two of them were let go at the end/after the season and Mourinho basically made it impossible to retain.
I don't think there's a top manager out there who would suit us, honestly. Conte style is just too abrasive, and I just don't see how he'll mesh here. Same goes for Zidane, did a tremendous job at Real Madrid but the quality at his disposal was unreal, and they had a habit of crossing repeatedly aiming for Ronaldo's head. All top managers have been snapped up in past few years, we'll have to wait for one of them to be free. But, question remains, will we be proactive enough to make a change? I don't think so. Our board is quite risk-averse so it'd take a mixture of a very poor run of form plus good timing of a top manager being available for this to work out.
Note, this is not me saying, there's no manager who would be an upgrade on Ole. Far from it, just saying there aren't any top managers available, who'd suit us, right now.
I have always said, giving him permanent job in March was a major mistake. We should have waited until end of season to make that call. Our end to the season was abysmal, and there were already questions back then, if he has it in him to turn things around and arrest a decline. We went for a full squad clear out and backed him to the hilt.
I don't think there's a top manager out there who would suit us, honestly. Conte style is just too abrasive, and I just don't see how he'll mesh here. Same goes for Zidane, did a tremendous job at Real Madrid but the quality at his disposal was unreal, and they had a habit of crossing repeatedly aiming for Ronaldo's head. All top managers have been snapped up in past few years, we'll have to wait for one of them to be free. But, question remains, will we be proactive enough to make a change? I don't think so. Our board is quite risk-averse so it'd take a mixture of a very poor run of form plus good timing of a top manager being available for this to work out.
Note, this is not me saying, there's no manager who would be an upgrade on Ole. Far from it, just saying there aren't any top managers available, who'd suit us, right now.
I have always said, giving him permanent job in March was a major mistake. We should have waited until end of season to make that call. Our end to the season was abysmal, and there were already questions back then, if he has it in him to turn things around and arrest a decline. We went for a full squad clear out and backed him to the hilt.
Our fans are too blinded by "United way". United way is about to win and not just passion. The biggest myth in last 2 years have been acting like sir alex was just some passion merchant.
Potter, Zidane, Conte, take your pick. Rodgers is also a good shout. We missed our chance for Nagelsmann and Rose would seem hard to get currently, we'd probably have to wait at the end of the season for that one.
Unfortunately, this is pipedreams. Our club is run by useless idiots. As long as Ole manages to get top 4 with this squad (I could probably do that), he's never gonna get sacked.
Unfortunately, this is pipedreams. Our club is run by useless idiots. As long as Ole manages to get top 4 with this squad (I could probably do that), he's never gonna get sacked.
This is a really weird way to get around the truth, which is that the Glazers have fired every manager that isn't Fergie.
Ten Hag or Luis Enrique!!!
Feel like our board will mess up anyway.
Feel like our board will mess up anyway.
Ryan Giggs. There you go.
Conte, Zidane or Rodgers.
No way Luis Enrique leaves with the World Cup next year. It's a pipe dream.
We'd be bat shit insane to not go for Conte.
Your United way is outdated. Half of your fanbase mocks modern managers for being too hipster and have issues with modern progressive football.
Good manager, he’d have us playing good football. But he’s very thin skinned and would be perpetually at war with the press
I agree unless we finish outside top 4 he wont be sacked. However how long before Ronaldo and his camp become disillusioned with Ole and his limited ways? Then Mendes starts to have conversations with senior utd figures and suggests a change of manager?.....
We won't go wrong with either Conte or Zidane. Both will win the league here I have no doubt about it.
I think Conte and Zidane are risks too. It's the Liverpool post 80s approach - sign coaches based on their name rather than the actual football they play. We tried it with Van Gaal and Mourinho already. Conte can be a winner, but he signed loads of old players for Inter and the competition in the PL is a lot harder than it is in Serie A. Are we really willing to let him spend hundreds of millions on old players, for a not particularly great brand of football with no guarantee of success?
I think we should go back to the basics approach and appoint someone like Potter for two reasons
1) Brighton some great football. They give even the best teams in the league a game with inferior players
2) He's built a very good squad at Brighton. We could use someone who can identify players with potential and not simply go for every exotic sounding £70m player. We need to build a team.
Zidane's even more of a risk, he had a prime Real Madrid squad with basically a world class player in every position given to him. No one knows if he can build a squad or not.
I think we should go back to the basics approach and appoint someone like Potter for two reasons
1) Brighton some great football. They give even the best teams in the league a game with inferior players
2) He's built a very good squad at Brighton. We could use someone who can identify players with potential and not simply go for every exotic sounding £70m player. We need to build a team.
Zidane's even more of a risk, he had a prime Real Madrid squad with basically a world class player in every position given to him. No one knows if he can build a squad or not.
I don't think they have issues with progressive manager. Almost all United fans will acknowledge Ole is nowhere near Klopp or Pep or Tuchel. The fact is too hung up on not changing a manager. Happened when Jose was in charge as well.
It was a huge mistake, and just laughable why we couldnt wait. Similar to his new contracts where the inners have completely made up the concept of what happens when a manager's contract is running down. Another terrible mistake.
He should be fighting for an extension now, but he's rather safe for life now on a ridiculous wage far above his ability.
Ole is going nowhere. He would have to be struggling come the end of the season, out of all cups for it to even be considered.
he will be here for years to come
he will be here for years to come
I'm unsure where people get this idea, if Ole misses the top 4 it's almost a guarantee that he will be dismissed especially if the glazers have this as a clause in his contract.
Not sure this is true. We would need to change the shape of the team quite substantially, his style is awful and he is an extremely short term option anyway. There are much better options out there.
Sorry, this isn't just aimed at you, but Conte would be a disaster.
We've seen with Moyes, LvG, and Mou how damaging it is to bring in managers with vastly differing philosophies/styles, bringing in Conte would result in another reset.
No it's true. Some here mock anyone who dares to talk about patterns of play, modern football and systems in order to defend Ole's haphazard football. Some here were mocking Nagelsmann all the time because some were convinced he's a better manager than Ole.
There're indeed fans here who think modern football doesn't exist, something invented by young football fans and Ole's way is the real football way.
We have by far the highest wage budget in the league. So not even competing for the title this year will force the board to reconsider.
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