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Very well put. Pretty much word for word how I feel about this.
Thats way too progressive and niche for our board. They hear that name and probably think it’s either the new Lamborghini model coming out or it’s some wine distributor who pays good sponsorship deals.
Probably be Southgate then..... he sounds more like a run down 1980s shopping centre than a sports car.
I swear...as god is my witness...if Gareth Fuking Southgate becomes manager of United I’m taking a hiatus...I’m getting rid of sky sports and BT and premiere sports and MUTV...and I’m taking up 3D jigsaws....you see what you have done to me Ed...fuking 3D jigsaws! The pieces don’t even fit properly!!!!
Was he? I’m sure he criticised mourinho a few times
Where's the option for Giggs or Rooney?
Or if you want more experience, Steve Bruce or Mark Hughes?
Or if you want more experience, Steve Bruce or Mark Hughes?
Multiple thread locks, posters being banned for not towing the line. All very rawkish isn't it. Hey ho guess it's a sign of where we are at the moment.
Oh behave. I didn't even take a hiatus when Moyes took over. And he is a euro final runner up.
Thanks for this. Makes it much easier to follow discussion.
Me neither. No way such a meeting happened. Pure BS.
SportBild "England expert" Falk says this is "not true" (I'm sure you can imagine the accompanying icon) and that Zidane told Man United he's not interested and doesn't want to come. Falk claims a ManUnited "insider" told him that.
Wow Woodward had better give Ole a new contract...oh wait.
Posters being banned has always happened, it’s not a sign of anything
Ten Hag or Enrique imo.
I like the way Viera has started at Crystal Palace. Maybe worth a shot 
Not impressed with this stuff about Zidane needing to be "convinced" about the "project" and the opinion of his wife and the opinion on Manchester, and this and that.
They should be dying to get in and turn this juggernaut around. If he's dithering on it now what's he going to be like when things get really tough, or our ownership irritate him - which is an inevitability at some point.
We need a man with the stomach and passion for it. That is absolutely non-negotiable to me. I'd rather gamble on somebody that knows what a great opportunity it is than hand it to somebody lukewarm at best. It's too tough a job for that regardless of credentials, as good as his are.
Could all be nonsense of course but it puts a downer on him for me based on what we know.
They should be dying to get in and turn this juggernaut around. If he's dithering on it now what's he going to be like when things get really tough, or our ownership irritate him - which is an inevitability at some point.
We need a man with the stomach and passion for it. That is absolutely non-negotiable to me. I'd rather gamble on somebody that knows what a great opportunity it is than hand it to somebody lukewarm at best. It's too tough a job for that regardless of credentials, as good as his are.
Could all be nonsense of course but it puts a downer on him for me based on what we know.
I think we should know by now the current British managers aren't very good tactically - good but not exceptional, definitely not 200 IQ tactics that Pep and Tuchel can come up with. Bring in Enrique. At least he knows how midfield and passing works, one thing we're lacking. Makes little sense to hire Brendan and he plays with a similar approach to Ole.
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Brendan Rodgers - Manager of Manchester United................megastore.
Is it an inevitability? The Glazers are leeches moneywise for sure but if anything they haven't interfered enough on Ole's reign. The board have shown patience with Ole (much more than fans) and backed him well over his tenure. in fact the most common claim I hear is that the Glazers only care about consistently finishing in the top 4, that seems like a very achievable target to keep your owners happy (if true). The only manager they pulled the trigger on early was Moyes and I think they changed their approach and gave LVG and Mou stays of execution prior to firing.
If Zidane backs himself and his coaching staff to get this squad in winning form then I don't think he'd hear a peep out of the Glazers.
Personally I think he doesn't want to tarnish his reputation. The league is stacked with elite managers and I just think he knows that it'll be too hard to compete against Klopp Pep and Tuchel.
We should be going all out for ten Hag anyway.
Shocking stuff written in here about BR just because 10 years ago he accepted an offer from a big club and didn't hang around more at Swansea, and even with the limitations his side had, he had them challenging for the league.
When the scousers sold Suarez the transfer committee brought Benteke and Solanke for fecks sake to replace him.
Jesus man, most of the posters in here were more than happy to give a clearly out of his depth Ole just because of his "United DNA" a 3 year contract, were spoon fed about a big "rebuild" that was needed and were told to judge him when he had his own squad.
Rodgers is a great coach and given the resources he will come good to us
When the scousers sold Suarez the transfer committee brought Benteke and Solanke for fecks sake to replace him.
Jesus man, most of the posters in here were more than happy to give a clearly out of his depth Ole just because of his "United DNA" a 3 year contract, were spoon fed about a big "rebuild" that was needed and were told to judge him when he had his own squad.
Rodgers is a great coach and given the resources he will come good to us
This is not correct. Brendan Rodgers insisted on Benteke. In fact, overall, the committee had a very good track record during Rodgers time there. Same after. Klopp has heaped praise on them more than once, speaking highly of how well they work together. Quite different from Rodgers who kept fighting them.
They players Rodgers brought in at Liverpool was not impressive at all in my opinion. In fact, it is very similar at Leicester. They were great at transfers before Rodgers came in and got alot of power. Ever since, they have been quite mediocre, spending significant sums on mediocre players.
There appears to be quite a few flawed logics and inaccurate or false narratives from Rodgers-supporters. It is so reminiscent of 2016 and Mourinho.
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They didn't had a very good track record during Rodgers time, it was truly terrible. And they got rid of the committee model during Klopp first year and moved to a DOF model with Edwards.
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You’re close. Actually a failed public housing estate in Runcorn:
Edit: Google “Southgate Runcorn” to learn more
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I don't think the Glazers necessarily actively interfere, but we seem to have a rather convoluted structure which compromises our ability to act quickly and decisively. I think there is definitely the potential for a manager to become frustrated. It's not the worst ownership for that of course, my point is simply that if ZZ is pontificating about whether it's right for him now then it doesn't bode well for 12 months down the line when the honeymoon period is over and things get tough.
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I won't hide, I've been a fan of Rodgers' style of football from when he burst into the scene with Swansea. In fact I was very disappointed that he went to scousers, but luckily (?) he didn't win anything so he isn't remembered very fondly there.
Mourinho was in a downward trajectory by the time he came to Man United, on the contrary Rodgers is on the up. As another poster said Leicester have no right to be in contention for top 4, but they are around here for the past 2 seasons. Can anyone remember where Leicester were with Puel and the football they played?
If I had to choose, I'd go for Poch. I think he is the ideal manager for Man United. But if a manager change happens sometime before xmas and couldn't get Poch then sure Rodgers is a great coach. Couldn't care less for his Pool years, Sir Matt played for the scousers and shitty.
Just to be clear I'm not comparing him to sir Matt
I won't hide, I've been a fan of Rodgers' style of football from when he burst into the scene with Swansea. In fact I was very disappointed that he went to scousers, but luckily (?) he didn't win anything so he isn't remembered very fondly there.
Mourinho was in a downward trajectory by the time he came to Man United, on the contrary Rodgers is on the up. As another poster said Leicester have no right to be in contention for top 4, but they are around here for the past 2 seasons. Can anyone remember where Leicester were with Puel and the football they played?
If I had to choose, I'd go for Poch. I think he is the ideal manager for Man United. But if a manager change happens sometime before xmas and couldn't get Poch then sure Rodgers is a great coach. Couldn't care less for his Pool years, Sir Matt played for the scousers and shitty.
Just to be clear I'm not comparing him to sir Matt
My understading is that there is actually little potential for a manager to become frustrated when you compare it to traditional models, there is potential for a manager to be overwhelmed though. Up until this year, the model was that the manager is in charge of all the professional side, he has a budget, scouts and staff members that he chooses, he is supposed to be the main contributor when it comes to transfer suggestions otherwise it will come from his team of scouts. The issue is that most head coaches have no experience of a model like this one, it requires managerial qualities that most people don't have.
Now I think that I should mention a red herring that is sometimes mentioned in the press, if a transfer has an important long term financial impact the CEO and owners will have a say and will need to be convinced with tangible arguments, that's true everywhere unless the CEO and owners are Barcelona-like reckless.
You’re close. Actually a failed public housing estate in Runcorn:
Edit: Google “Southgate Runcorn” to learn more
Looks like a Bond Villains headquarters.
Agreed, our model is at odds with how other top clubs are run and is a legacy of harking back to the Fergie era. Its also why clubs like Chelsea can change managers but still have a great youth system churning out new players and a very strong squad. We absolutely need a proper football structur which is given suitable autonomy to run the academy and recruitment on a sustainable and long term model. It shouldo also avoid emplyoing managers with radically different views, both to those currently embedded at the club and even of their immediate predecessor. This is the fault of the clueless Woodward, who seems to still have zero understandign of top level football or what a modern club needs.
I'm sorry but what reason is there to believe that Rodgers 'is on the up'?
Fair enough final league position has been fairly stable for the past couple of seasons but his team have picked up something like 25pts from the last 20 League games. If anything he's in a bit of a crisis.
Surprised how little this is being mentioned. If their form continues as it is he'll be under pressure to keep the Leicester job. That he's the red-hot fav for United shows just how far the club has slid.
Will give up on the club if he's brought in.
Worth noting that Rodgers was one of the main reasons they waited that long in switching to a DOF model as he was so resistant to working under one from the beginning.
And (as per this Tony Evans article that seems to have been heavily "informed" by the FSG perspective) the way Rodgers dealt with the situation was also an issue:
Henry was unhappy about losing out on Sturridge but what made him really furious was Rodgers’ response to the incident at a press conference after the window shut. “It’s probably 99.9 per cent finance,” he said about Carroll’s departure. “If we’ve got a choice, then he’s someone around the place who you could use from time to time. He would have been a good option.”
FSG were aghast at the suggestion. Henry wrote an open letter to fans to shoot down the notion that the manager was being forced to sell and explaining their strategy. What they could not understand across the Atlantic is how Rodgers could “throw us under a bus”. It would not be the last time the phrase was used. Trust was undermined within three months. The roots of the transfer committee began there.
FSG were aghast at the suggestion. Henry wrote an open letter to fans to shoot down the notion that the manager was being forced to sell and explaining their strategy. What they could not understand across the Atlantic is how Rodgers could “throw us under a bus”. It would not be the last time the phrase was used. Trust was undermined within three months. The roots of the transfer committee began there.
The article's concluding point on the recruitment situation being:
Think Rodgers has to take his own share of the blame for the recruitment problems at the club during his time there. And with him also having had his own man appointed as Head of Recruitment at Leicester (since when their recruitment has been less than stellar), I'd worry what would happen on that side of things if he came here.
By the FA Cup they won against Tuchel's Chelsea. I know, I know fluke and all that and sure they are in a bit of crisis I don't follow them around much (besides watching some games), but maybe the Leicester thing run its course and it's time for a change for the better of Rodgers and/or Leicester.
Leicester is a great club and all but they have a ceiling which is a lot lower than Man United
He is huge upgrade compared to Ole, his teams play great football, has a clear style of play, uses academy players, is "PL proven" and he just won the FA cup with freaking Leicester.
The most telling thing about a manager most of the times is the style of football he implements and how quickly, Rodgers had the foxes playing great stuff within 2-3 months since joining from Celtic. On the contrary Ole still hasn't got a style of play even after 3 years of patience, excuses, United DNA and shit like that.
My question is, why so much hatred for BR?
Based on what we have heard for years, I suspect that we are in the exact same situation. And that's a negative point for Rodgers.
Does such a thing exist?
Somehow, yes.
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