Labour needs to get over its hangup with Blair anyway
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Labour needs to get over its hangup with Blair anyway
Suppose it's all about illusion though. Politicians aren't often judged on the traits they have, but instead on the traits they can convince others that they have. Chuka seems like the sort of guy who is presentable and could be quite popular, even if he's in the Blairite mould.
That poll is for The Mail on Sunday, tbf. But this is the million dollar question. Do you champion someone you don't entirely agree with but who's likely to get elected, or stick steadfast to your principles like pete and win the Arsenal moral cup every year?
I'd still rather Blair than Cameron. The war gutted his legacy, but he pushed through some decent social reforms.
I'd still rather Blair than Cameron. The war gutted his legacy, but he pushed through some decent social reforms.
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Exactly!
Still only 40% so not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I still can't imagine Umunna making a big speech though. He needs to take up preaching in an evangelical church for a while, preferably in Atlanta, then return.
'45, '45 will be repeated
'45, '45 I say
'45, '45 will be repeated
with Labour playing the clause IV way
'45, '45 I say
'45, '45 will be repeated
with Labour playing the clause IV way
I think Umunna would be a disaster. Burnham is the best bet.
I know what you mean, he is a bit tepid as an orator. 40% is probably at the high end of the scale for trusting politicians though.
I don't trust Chuka for a second. But then he might still be the best of the candidates. Not sure who I'm gonna vote for.
These policies wouldn't be disastrous at all...
Liz Kendall, who studied at Cambridge and listens to rap
I feel the same, not too hot on the personality but I think his politics are the right if there is to be a realistic chance of Labour get elected in the next election, which I feel is more important than ideology at this point in time.
Who's policies were they?
It's apparently what the Unions are demanding the next leader adopt.
Disagree with all apart from the renationalising of the railways, I just don't think that it can ever be a properly competitive (and therefore efficient) market. As nice as it sounds, I think forcing the "living wage" on employers will lead to more unemployment and less foreign companies setting up here. The public sector is bloated and expensive enough without more pay increases. Better to give tax cuts to all working people by increasing the income tax threshold.
Exactly.
One issue here is how the public sector compares with the private sector in terms of salaries. If the private sector continually pays better salaries for similar level roles you face a talent drain away from the public sector, which has all sorts of knock on effects. Tax cuts dont address this issue.
Private sector salaries are typically 15-20% higher, more in specialist areas like IT or accountancy.
For goodness sake!
There are other reasons for working in the public sector though; a sense of public service, increased job security and typically a more generous pension.
Joking?
Historically that was the appeal of the public sector, obviously there have been redundancies over the last few years.
Renationalising the raliways is sensible at this point. The experiment hasn't worked in the public's favour.
Blanket payrises are never a good idea though - and as for 'enforcing' the living wage, I'm not sure I follow. Surely just re-evaluation of the minimum wage is all that is needed.
Let no good deed go unpunished. If they want to serve the public then we must be able to use that to force down their wages. Its only right.
The Conservative idiot-proof knives are out for Chuka already.
http://conservativewoman.co.uk/laura-perrins-stylish-chuka-is-too-old-to-have-a-girlfriend/
http://conservativewoman.co.uk/laura-perrins-stylish-chuka-is-too-old-to-have-a-girlfriend/
Strange, I have a growing suspicion it's going to be Kendall, though can't quite work out why.
That reads like a piss take.
Hehe @Mockney reads 'conservative woman'.
Burnham declares - http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/andy-burnham-launches-his-campaign-labour-leadership
Just Cooper left and maybe Hunt if he can convince enough people he won't lose that badly. Winner to be announced on 12th September, couple of weeks before the conference.
Just Cooper left and maybe Hunt if he can convince enough people he won't lose that badly. Winner to be announced on 12th September, couple of weeks before the conference.
Andy Burnham has sad eyes. People won't vote for that.
Good no.2, difficult to elect in a televisual age.
Deeply sad, and disappointed. I also have absolutely no recollection of his 2010 campaign, but I'm not sure whether that's a good or bad thing. I liked the emphasis on the whole country after the others so far have basically just talked about the south, sort of going back to the whole "One Nation" thing Labour dropped a couple of years back. Bloody difficult to create a convincing message for it though.
I work in the public sector and I think you can extend this even further: having started from a lowish Base and because of very low or no pay increases over the last five years, UK public sector workers are now among the least paid in the OECD. This is problem in areas such as health and higher education where employers have to compete globally for the best talent.
That's a terrible picture to have put with the article. It looks like he's doing "wittle bunny teeth" too.Where else am I going to find a good, obedient, non-lawyer wife before I'm 35?
He came across as nice but flimsy in the last campaign, albeit he was against some big hitters that time round.
Yeah, only finishing (1%) ahead of Diane Abbott isn't something to shout about either. Still, I'm giving everyone a fair shot at this, even if Tristram joins in.
I've confused him with Zak Goldsmith on more than one occasion. No one who can be confused with Zak Goldsmith, even by an idiot, can lead the Labour Party.
A mate of mine told me chuka umunna was a garage DJ, i for one am willing to get onboard with that. a PM with some street cred.
Never thought I would have similar interest to a possible PM, he will go down well with the youths.
http://djmag.com/content/hot-seat-chuka-umunna