He seems to have the full backing of the Blairite establishment for what that's worth, though I remain unconvinced as yet.
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Yep. Also I think the now rebuilding of the Labour Party(Hopefully they carry on sticking to the left)will take a good couple of years and most likely beyond the next election as well.
Political editor of the Sun is fairly happy he's not running.
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He would probably have been a hard man to smear with his background.
It has to be Burnham for me. One of the many things about Ed that went against him in this election was his privileged background. Boris was trashing him on Andrew Marr because they went to the same primary school. Burnham came from a working class background and went to Oxford. He is totally authentic and a symbol of aspiration.
I feel that the 2025 election will be the time for Jarvis. Lets face it, the Tories are likely to win the next election anyway.
Looks like Chris Leslie to be chancellor and Pat McFadden to be foreign secretary in the short term shadow cabinet, stepping up from chief secretary to the Treasury and minister for Europe respectively.
I am surprised at how popular Burnham is is in here, he's the sort of character who Labour would do well to keep away from IMO (ties to past regimes and rather dislikeable following the Mid-Staffs scandal). I don't think the Tories would be too displeased were he to win the leadership, if that is any guide.
He's no Harold Wilson though and would be another placeholder until they can find a proper heavyweight leader.
I think he'll be respected for putting his kids first and could be a future candidate still.
Indeed. He's a Gordon Brown stooge from an era that won't be remembered very fondly. Nice guy, but he won't take away votes from the Conservatives.
A clean break and an ideological move towards the centre is needed and the likes of Cooper and Burnham should realise that.
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I think the NHS is the only area where they have a distinct advantage over the Tories, is there a dashing ex doctor amongst the Labour MP's? God knows the British people worship doctors, it would play well in middle England as well.
I don't work at Tory HQ you understand, but i imagine that they'd much rather face someone with baggage than not. Selecting a relative unknown is not without its risks either of course (the party could end up with an IDS type scenario), however the potential rewards are greater. If Jarvis has indeed ruled himself out, then one of Kendall or Chukka i suppose.
EU Ref, EVEL, the possibility of a second Scottish referendum, the years ahead will be challenging ones whosoever they choose.
One person I'm completely sure I don't want to get it is Hunt, and I'm not sure he'll get the required support from MPs either.
Tristram. You have to go for him. He'll grab you Tory votes back.
Think Boris would annihilate him in the posh stakes.Article from Dan Jarvis detailing his decision - http://labourlist.org/2015/05/im-ready-to-serve-in-labours-renewal-but-not-as-leader/
This part is of note, as it's essentially saying the same as Umunna this morning and may turn out to be the new party line:
Wise words after the event. Can't remember if I read it here but think it was on the bbc website earlier. Miliband went to the same primary school as Boris?!
Article from Dan Jarvis detailing his decision - http://labourlist.org/2015/05/im-ready-to-serve-in-labours-renewal-but-not-as-leader/
This part is of note, as it's essentially saying the same as Umunna this morning and may turn out to be the new party line:
Probably will be. They're (way) past the point of no return on changing the popular narrative about what happened under Labour finances-wise. The best they can do is go half and half - accept partial responsibility while trying to point out it wasn't primarily their fault. Much easier to do, of course, if you break ties with the past (ie Ed and Ed).
Wicked, wicked...Junglist Massive.
It is his generation to be fair.
Maybe he should be Shadow Minister of Sound.
Call me cynical but I can't see him winning over UKIP voters which might be the difference between winning and losing the next election.
Maybe I'm too London to notice, but I can't see it having much of an impact. Surely the vast vast majority won't care?
Helps that he'd be the most attractive leader by a distance too.
The vast majority of the country won't care but when you look at how many votes UKIP got it's got to be an area for Labour to target and I fear a lot of them are morons who'll take a look at him and his name and think to themselves 'right, Boris it is'.
They wouldn't. I also refuse to believe the Tories would be stupid enough to pick Boris. It's one of those ideas that seems lovely to the party faithful but when it came to actually doing it any vaguely sensible person would come to their senses and accept it's insane.
So Chuka has distanced himself from the unions, isn't that basically what stopped David Miliband getting the leadership gig last time?
I'd go for Cooper. I think whoever is picked is losing and I think she'd make a decent leader of the opposition for the time being.
Yes. That's why we must pray they pick him.
Possibly. They've changed the rules since though.
It would be very kind of them...
Good one.
From last year (general public rather than just Labour voters):
Smh
From last year (general public rather than just Labour voters):
Chukka Umunna, the Blairite champion, being labelled as most trustworthy has to be some kind of joke.