Feels like there’s an international break after every 2 games. Probably because our matches aren’t memorable in the least.
Next five matches: can we turn it around?
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You will probably win these games.
What would constitute “turning it around”? E.g. 3 wins, a draw and a defeat?
It's the kind of run where we see if the manager has truly lost the dressing room or not. No excuse for not winning every game.
Yes of course we can turn it around. Things can change very quickly for the good (as we all saw last year after the Brentford 4-0) or for the worst (as we have all seen what's happened at the club since Fergie left).
My prediction is 7 points: I think Fulham we draw, Copenhagen is a late win, Luton is a win (not convincing), Everton is a loss and Galatarasay is a loss.
Worst case scenario, if we lose to Fulham and Copenhagen, then Ten Hag is a ticking time bomb. To some, they may already feel that he's on thin ice, but that would convince more supporters.
Me personally, I have maintained I will give ETH till end of season barring a huge collapse. We may be reaching that collapse territory now but we'll see.
My prediction is 7 points: I think Fulham we draw, Copenhagen is a late win, Luton is a win (not convincing), Everton is a loss and Galatarasay is a loss.
Worst case scenario, if we lose to Fulham and Copenhagen, then Ten Hag is a ticking time bomb. To some, they may already feel that he's on thin ice, but that would convince more supporters.
Me personally, I have maintained I will give ETH till end of season barring a huge collapse. We may be reaching that collapse territory now but we'll see.
Not guaranteed. Manchester United lose to Luton and he's gone.
Hope so. Last thing I want to see is another manager bite the dust. One who given time could do a good job. No one is doing a great job until the Glazers feck off and the clubs focus is on success
I knew I’d get replies like this, and I don’t blame you.Crazy aren’t they, imagine supporting United and actually wanting them to win
But winning matches doesn’t help us in the long term. The Glazers will never sell up whilst we hover around the top 6-8 of the league.
It’s like people who drink a bottle of wine every evening but deny they have a problem with alcohol. They go to work every day, they pay their bills. But their life is mediocre. They know, without the alcohol, life would be so much better. But they can’t quit the habit of drinking that bottle or two every single night.
The analogy applies to Utd. Our fans are kept happy with short term fixes like a new manager, an expensive new signing or a run of wins against fodder like Luton Town. But we always return to that bottle of wine.
The implication being if we finish 17th and get dicked every week between now and the end of the season, that massive changes will be made to the club. Rather than just a new manager being brought in and a rinse and repeat of what we’ve done before.
The changes we need are just as likely to happen with the proposed change of ownership structure as they are with your hypothetical “let’s be really shit” solution. And I don’t need to sit and hope my team gets embarrassed every week in the meantime.
I agree, but that's the way we should be playing all season no matter the game. I really think we just lack quality as well as determination, intensity etc. As far as pressing the opponents, we are terrible at it and are easily overturned and walked through.
What annoys me most is that there is no variation in tactics or formation for which opponent we are playing. We set up the same and try the same stuff whether it's against City or Forest. And the stuff were trying is pretty unsuccessful, yet were sticking to it and hope it somehow works one game. We are too predictable and too easy to set up against. Our players individually are very limited in their talents. We don't have many all rounders, who can tackle, pass, dribble successfully and we are over reliant on Bruno creating a killer pass, or Rashfords pace on the counter. Add to that a real lack of intelligence, leadership and determination on the pitch, it is probably the most worried I've been as a United fan
It’s all moot anyway. We’re shit and whatever any of us want isn't relevant. Club is in the mud.
I can't believe there's another fecking international break before the year is out. Fml.
If we won all 5, I bet that 90% of our fanbase (me included) will be for giving him more time and rightly so
Decent run of fixtures, this should buy him a bit of time.
I’ll be amazed if we manage that. The Newcastle starting 11 last night was arguably worse than any of these teams and they put 3 past us at home
I agree, but the knives would probably be straight back out if he didn't follow it up with revenge at St. James'.
I can't predict the results but I'm pretty sure if ETH keeps being stubborn with his football we'll lose those 4 away games. Hope I'm wrong though.
Did you see how we played against the team who have accumulated a mass of 1 point in the league?
We'll lose to Copenhagen.
5 wins, + 15 GD.
One of those is not like the others, though. Galatasaray played Bayern off the park at home. They will be far tougher to beat than Villa, Newcastle, or Brighton.
No point in getting a load of 'Ole saving his skin' type wins.
We need to start showing some direction on the football pitch and putting in convincing performances. We could conceivably win 4/5 of those games via poor, unconvincing performances; and while that might make his job safer at boardroom level, it'll do little to get a-lot of fans believing.
We need to start showing some direction on the football pitch and putting in convincing performances. We could conceivably win 4/5 of those games via poor, unconvincing performances; and while that might make his job safer at boardroom level, it'll do little to get a-lot of fans believing.
Yep. We're gonna get ETH sacked!
I’m not convinced that we’ll beat Luton at home (probably an unconvincing 1 goal margin) let alone other 4 teams on that list.
I’m going to have to say no then. Although it’s not impossible
He started a fresh team with a dropped bruno and rashford. I wouldn't say he was stubborn in this instance just a bit inept
This. The form isn't turning round any time soon and it's looking like it won't until ETH has gone.
The club is rotten to the core and we're in for a good few years of pain yet. Look how long it took SAF to root out the rot when he took over, and that was only a player issue, nothing like the current mess.
Exactly. Unconvincing wins that just paper over the cracks are dangerous. I remember after the Brentford game pundits discussing if it was the turning point after the Mctominay double. We were absolute dreadful. It gives a false sense of 'everything's going to be ok'. The turning point will be us playing good intense football with a clear plan and sense of direction on a consistent basis.
Of course we can, but we probably won’t. We’ll get a narrow win or a draw vs Copenhagen and then shit the bed against Galatasaray.
The league is done. There are easily 6 teams better than us this season and I don’t see how we turn this round with the squad we have currently.
The league is done. There are easily 6 teams better than us this season and I don’t see how we turn this round with the squad we have currently.
Think in your present state Everton will beat you. Calvert Lewin will fancy getting a goal against the usual backline and they're starting to keep clean sheets regularly. Two CLs aways obviously tough in any circumstances.
Fulham will be tight but they really haven't got much in final third without Mitrovic so could be a similar win to how you did it at Burnley and Sheffield United.
Goes without saying Ten Hag is gone if you can't beat Luton at home. A draw v them is as bad as losing 4-1 to Watford anyway.
Fulham will be tight but they really haven't got much in final third without Mitrovic so could be a similar win to how you did it at Burnley and Sheffield United.
Goes without saying Ten Hag is gone if you can't beat Luton at home. A draw v them is as bad as losing 4-1 to Watford anyway.
Obviously not.And you want to keep him? Do you just enjoy the misery?
But imo no pain no gain. Tbh we've been being crap for 10 years I don't mind another year just to see what if with a different approach than keep repeating the same fecking cycles every two years. We might find our Arteta, might not. Who knows. But at least we might. Keep repeating those bloody cycles and hope we'd strike gold has the same chance as winning the lotto imo.
And do you seriously want us to lose just so you can get rid of him?
Tbh imo he simply didn't really care much about that match. Tbf it's rather our B team. And what I was talking about was not about the line up but the tactic. He got it right first half against City though. So there's hope.
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After me giving you aggro about how shite Luton are, too!I'm gonna become the ultimate troll on this website if we beat you guys. I'm warning you now
That international break if we don’t beat Copenhagen and Luton will be horrific.
The only game you can trust this team in would maybe the absolute worst teams at home.
We'll beat Luton but probably drop points in the rest, being eliminated from the CL group in the process.
We'll beat Luton but probably drop points in the rest, being eliminated from the CL group in the process.
Five straight wins or a new manager would be a success.