Next Draft - Ideas and Discussions

Idea for the next draft- simple snake, anyone born on or after the 1st Jan 1988. Essentially a modern players draft which excludes Messi and Ronaldo. It will be as yet a rather untapped pool. The closest was the Current Players Draft but that was 80s with the requirement of a few players from the 90s. This should be somewhat different
The idea sounds good in theory but there needs to be a little twist or it will be too easy.
 
Idea for the next draft- simple snake, anyone born on or after the 1st Jan 1988. Essentially a modern players draft which excludes Messi and Ronaldo. It will be as yet a rather untapped pool. The closest was the Current Players Draft but that was 80s with the requirement of a few players from the 90s. This should be somewhat different
That's been requested a few times so I think it's overdue. EAP's modern era draft was nearly three years ago which also means the pool will have developed to keep the concept fresh.
 
The idea sounds good in theory but there needs to be a little twist or it will be too easy.

It will be easy to build with but after this draft I think something easier will be welcome - you could add someone nationality restrictions and/or a number of players who cannot have played for Barca, Bayern, Juve, Real, etc.
 
It will be easy to build with but after this draft I think something easier will be welcome - you could add someone nationality restrictions and/or a number of players who cannot have played for Barca, Bayern, Juve, Real, etc.
I will have a think about a few suggestions. If possible I would like to put my name in for the draft regardless.
 
How about a draft where you have to pick a player who has played with the last picked player in the draft (picked by last player, not your own last pick)
The planning needed for that would be ridiculous :lol:
You can pass your chance if you don't like to pick but have to wait till your next turn.
 
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Idea for the next draft- simple snake, anyone born on or after the 1st Jan 1988. Essentially a modern players draft which excludes Messi and Ronaldo. It will be as yet a rather untapped pool. The closest was the Current Players Draft but that was 80s with the requirement of a few players from the 90s. This should be somewhat different
That was the very first one in the list.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/new-fantasy-draft.325813/

I think we should limit it a bit more, born Feb 6, 1992 or after?
 
How about a draft where you have to pick a player who has played with the last picked player in the draft (picked by last player, not your own last pick)
The planning needed for that would be ridiculous :lol:
You can pass your chance if you don't like to pick but have to wait till your next turn.
There will be no planning and you can really screw with people either side of you.
 
Anyway, if the next one is for more modern players, please count me in.

Haven't done a draft for ages...
 
Yea, perhaps a good pass rule can help with that along with restrictions of clubs and countries.
Actually a no other rules at all and just picking a team mate of whoever picked last time could work.

Of cos you'd need everyone to go first once.

[edit, probably limit it to born in the 40/50s and after]
 
That was the very first one in the list.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/new-fantasy-draft.325813/

I think we should limit it a bit more, born Feb 6, 1992 or after?

Didn't know about that one. Why not just go old-school and have the 90s draft, anyone born on or after Jan 1st 1990? Whilst wanting to have current players I think it preferable that many have a good number of years as a pro - with the 1990 cut off the oldest player would be 27, I think any younger you could end up with people voting on potential, not actual peak: Mbappe being a good case in point.
 
Didn't know about that one. Why not just go old-school and have the 90s draft, anyone born on or after Jan 1st 1990? Whilst wanting to have current players I think it preferable that many have a good number of years as a pro - with the 1990 cut off the oldest player would be 27, I think any younger you could end up with people voting on potential, not actual peak: Mbappe being a good case in point.
Because whoever goes first gets a big advantage in Neymar. Most people seem to agree to the idea that he's the best outside those 2.
 
Because whoever goes first gets a big advantage in Neymar. Most people seem to agree to the idea that he's the best outside those 2.

In that case you'd want to go from 1993 onwards (half years are a pain for drafting), failing that you just block Neymar.
 
Idea for the next draft- simple snake, anyone born on or after the 1st Jan 1988. Essentially a modern players draft which excludes Messi and Ronaldo. It will be as yet a rather untapped pool. The closest was the Current Players Draft but that was 80s with the requirement of a few players from the 90s. This should be somewhat different

players under 29?

I know some great players under 15 :devil:
 
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Think Neymar would be fine in there, he's great but nowhere near Messi or Ronaldo and wouldn't exactly be massively OP here.

Outside those two it should be fine.
 
Think Neymar would be fine in there, he's great but nowhere near Messi or Ronaldo and wouldn't exactly be massively OP here.

Outside those two it should be fine.

I think so to. Just giving an option to assuage issues with potential Neymar domination.

I reckon born after 1st Jan 1990 would be fine with Neymar. Possibly, with country restrictions but haven't given it much thought. What I have given thought to is the possibly even more difficult 25-45 No Mates Draft
 
Anyway, if the next one is for more modern players, please count me in.

Haven't done a draft for ages...
The drafts I've seen seem to require a decent knowledge of (1) foreign players and (2) older players. Wonder if that puts off potential new drafters? See a lot of the same players regurgitated and I'll be honest, I like my football but several players I'd never even heard of let alone knew in enough detail to be able to slot them into a formation.

Why not just UK players from say 1980 (gets rid of the 66 players)? or 85 (gets rid of 70s)

Or, players who've played in the Premier League?

Would expect to get a lot of different names.
 
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The drafts I've seen seem to require a decent knowledge of (1) foreign players and (2) older players. Wonder if that puts off potential new drafters? See a lot of the same players regurgitated and I'll be honest, I like my football but several players I'd never even heard of let alone knew in enough detail to be able to slot them into a formation.

Why not just UK players from say 1980 (gets rid of the 66 players)? 94 85 (gets rid of 70s)

Or, players who've played in the Premier League?

Would expect to get a lot of different names.
I think UK draft has been done before .
 
Moderns draft sounds good, count me in .
 
Modern drafts are easy.
Retro ones pull me simply because you learn lots and have fun researching players and how they used to play in various formations under various managers.

Selecting Inter Milan in the last draft was an amazing experience for me for the same reason.
Learnt so much new about the club I didn't know about before.
 
Modern drafts are easy.
Retro ones pull me simply because you learn lots and have fun researching players and how they used to play in various formations under various managers.

yeah this right here is what I love. There is just so much history and so many fascinating stories over the last century and IMO too many modern fans scoff at history instead of giving it the due it deserves.

Like for me instead of watching Swansea-Newcastle I was watching a classic Dynamo Dresden vs. Bayern Munich match from mid 70s for Dorner and then a Cruzeiro vs. Botafogo match now for Nelinho. To me those are much more interesting than midtable current PL teams.
 
yeah this right here is what I love. There is just so much history and so many fascinating stories over the last century and IMO too many modern fans scoff at history instead of giving it the due it deserves.

Like for me instead of watching Swansea-Newcastle I was watching a classic Dynamo Dresden vs. Bayern Munich match from mid 70s for Dorner and then a Cruzeiro vs. Botafogo match now for Nelinho. To me those are much more interesting than midtable current PL teams.
That's not an argument.... I'd rather iron than watch Swansea v Newcastle
 
How about at the beginning everyone is designated a randomly picked formation and decade they have to stick to? That would make things more challenging.
 
The menu should be wide enough to cater to all tastes. We play these drafts so frequently now that you want to rotate the pools as much as possible, otherwise we'll all just go insane in a sea of Rijkaards and Keanes.

yeah this right here is what I love. There is just so much history and so many fascinating stories over the last century and IMO too many modern fans scoff at history instead of giving it the due it deserves.

Like for me instead of watching Swansea-Newcastle I was watching a classic Dynamo Dresden vs. Bayern Munich match from mid 70s for Dorner and then a Cruzeiro vs. Botafogo match now for Nelinho. To me those are much more interesting than midtable current PL teams.
Aye. Noticed last night that MotD was on but I shunned it for youtube highlights of the Copa Libertadores final from 1996.
 
Modern drafts are easy.
Retro ones pull me simply because you learn lots and have fun researching players and how they used to play in various formations under various managers.

Selecting Inter Milan in the last draft was an amazing experience for me for the same reason.
Learnt so much new about the club I didn't know about before.
Yes that's true, but it also allows for some change, it seems we've got to the stage that many of the regulars can guess what the opponents will pick in any particular draft.

We should try something different, that one about a team mate of whoever picked last time sounds like an interesting idea.
 
How about a mixed-modern day reality draft? You'll get some legacy picks and you have to build around them with modern players.

Drafting will be:
- 9 outfield modern (born on and after 1/Jan/1985) players who will be snake drafted, and
- 6 all time (non GOAT/World Class) that'll be nominated by me.

Playing 11 should be composed of
- 7 outfield modern (born on and after 1/Jan/1985) players who will be snake drafted, and
- 4 all time (non GOAT/World Class) that'll be nominated by me.

Messi and Cristiano are blocked.
 
In for another first round exit

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It would be more refreshing to have a 100% modern draft.

Boring to read some discussions like " I have a GOAT against your sheep (modern player) there"
 
As I said, no GOATs. You'll probably have the likes of Carricks and Xabi's (and other underappreciated players) to give the experience to the youngsters.

I see what you mean.

My suggestion would be something like "players under 35 so that you have experienced players and youngsters."

Unique opportunity to have teams 100% new.
 
As I said, no GOATs. You'll probably have the likes of Carricks and Xabi's (and other underappreciated players) to give the experience to the youngsters.

Could work if you make sure to nominate precisely the Carrick type.

That said, if you simply go «modern/contemporary» with a 1985 cutoff and no Messnaldo, you don't really need any legacy style additions - unless it's done as a particular measure to give the Carrick types some airtime.
 
How about a mixed-modern day reality draft? You'll get some legacy picks and you have to build around them with modern players.

Drafting will be:
- 9 outfield modern (born on and after 1/Jan/1985) players who will be snake drafted, and
- 6 all time (non GOAT/World Class) that'll be nominated by me.

Playing 11 should be composed of
- 7 outfield modern (born on and after 1/Jan/1985) players who will be snake drafted, and
- 4 all time (non GOAT/World Class) that'll be nominated by me.

Messi and Cristiano are blocked.

I like it but only 9 picks.... thats way to little IMO. I mean drafting part is the most interesting part so cutting it so much is an awful idea. Maybe a squad of 16 with 3 legacy players of which only 2 can start, that way you pick 13 players as usual give or take and you have to choose 2 legacy players so you have to find the balance withing legacy players as well.
 
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I am in whatever comes next. But I really would love if someone is working on the Chain draft idea (one where you pick the team mate of the player selected before you). It would be hilarious and awesome with so many opportunities to screw others, I would host it but I really want to play it.
 
I am in whatever comes next. But I really would love if someone is working on the Chain draft idea (one where you pick the team mate of the player selected before you). It would be hilarious and awesome with so many opportunities to screw others, I would host it but I really want to play it.
I played it on another forum and it was fun.

You can play and host at the same time.
 
I played it on another forum and it was fun.

You can play and host at the same time.
Sure, we would need to flesh the rules very clearly to make that work. Since its a new-ish format there might be a need for changing rules and when you are playing as well it becomes a bit messy. I would host it with rules set in stone if nobody else does, after EAP's draft.
 
It would be more refreshing to have a 100% modern draft.

Boring to read some discussions like " I have a GOAT against your sheep (modern player) there"

Aye, there seems to be several people who have been waiting for a modern players draft for ages. Better to keep it basic rather than introducing the luck element of assigned players IMO. Not sure if I'll play it or not but it will be a nice change of pace.

@Tuppet that chain draft idea sounds brain-meltingly brilliant!