Newcastle United 24/25 - Eddie Howe Sack Watch

:lol: Mainoo is twice the player.
What do you think Mainoo is clearly better at? I mean, he is a massive talent but Bruno Guimaraes is statistically better at take ons, long passing, passing, progressive passing, tackling, work rate, goal contributions, and pretty much every aspect. I know statistics shouldn't be used to determine who the best player is, but it is an indicator that Mainoo isn't twice the player like you say. Bruno Guimaraes is quite complete and an all around brilliant CM.
 
What do you think Mainoo is clearly better at? I mean, he is a massive talent but Bruno Guimaraes is statistically better at take ons, long passing, passing, progressive passing, tackling, work rate, goal contributions, and pretty much every aspect. I know statistics shouldn't be used to determine who the best player is, but it is an indicator that Mainoo isn't twice the player like you say. Bruno Guimaraes is quite complete and an all around brilliant CM.
Brilliant is a strong word, he's a decent player nothing more than that.
Bruno G works hard which covers a lot of his flaws, and there are a lot of flaws to his game.
 
Brilliant is a strong word, he's a decent player nothing more than that.
Bruno G works hard which covers a lot of his flaws, and there are a lot of flaws to his game.
Can you name these flaws? I don't see a particular weakness in his game that makes it a flaw. Obviously, he doesn't have the touch of Modric, Kroos' passing or Ronaldinho's dribbling, but to suggest he has a lot of flaws is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. I think he is one of the more complete and balanced CMs in the league.
 
What do you think Mainoo is clearly better at? I mean, he is a massive talent but Bruno Guimaraes is statistically better at take ons, long passing, passing, progressive passing, tackling, work rate, goal contributions, and pretty much every aspect. I know statistics shouldn't be used to determine who the best player is, but it is an indicator that Mainoo isn't twice the player like you say. Bruno Guimaraes is quite complete and an all around brilliant CM.
Bruno Guimaraes isn't a brilliant CM. He's a hothead who goes sliding into challenges that are 70/30 in the opposition's favour in a way that Casemiro would be proud of. He also barely creates any chances as a number 8, which I assume was one of the reasons why Howe started to play him as a 6 in games last season, where he often struggled with his defensive positioning. Mainoo is also better in tight spaces, receiving the ball on the half turn and dribbling past players.
 
Bruno Guimaraes isn't a brilliant CM. He's a hothead who goes sliding into challenges that are 70/30 in the opposition's favour in a way that Casemiro would be proud of. He also barely creates any chances as a number 8, which I assume was one of the reasons why Howe started to play him as a 6 in games last season, where he often struggled with his defensive positioning. Mainoo is also better in tight spaces, receiving the ball on the half turn and dribbling past players.

I rate Mainoo but lets not go overboard. Right now, Bruno G is clear of Mainoo. Bruno maybe hot headed and dives into tackles but to say he is not creative is false. He actually plays really nice passes into the forwards and is also good in tight spaces and being press resistant.

Off the ball Mainoo is not great either, his positioning is not there and he struggles to keep up with play.
 
Brilliant is a strong word, he's a decent player nothing more than that.
Bruno G works hard which covers a lot of his flaws, and there are a lot of flaws to his game.
I think it’s because he works hard hes used as a 6 rather than 8, Tonali should be the 6, but Howe seems wedded to having at least one of Longstaff and Willock in the team
 
Bruno Guimaraes isn't a brilliant CM. He's a hothead who goes sliding into challenges that are 70/30 in the opposition's favour in a way that Casemiro would be proud of. He also barely creates any chances as a number 8, which I assume was one of the reasons why Howe started to play him as a 6 in games last season, where he often struggled with his defensive positioning. Mainoo is also better in tight spaces, receiving the ball on the half turn and dribbling past players.
I think that's some serious underrating of him. Not world class by any means, but he is very good and has been highly rated since playing in Brazil. He also created 62 chances last season as a CM, that is #21 of all players, ranking ahead the likes of de Bruyne, Gordon, Eze, Martinelli, Havertz and all of our attackers, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that he barely creates chances.
 
I think that's some serious underrating of him. Not world class by any means, but he is very good and has been highly rated since playing in Brazil. He also created 62 chances last season as a CM, that is #21 of all players, ranking ahead the likes of de Bruyne, Gordon, Eze, Martinelli, Havertz and all of our attackers, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that he barely creates chances.
Big chances created so far this season? 2. Behind Wes Burns, Jacob Ramsey and his own teammate Joe Willock.