Newbies with 0 likes can now post in the Main Football Forums

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Woah...I have to do stuff now?
 
This seems an alright idea.

I don't remember much of the newbies apart from thinking a guy called Treble_99 was a total tosser. Brown-nosed Mourinho within an inch of his life. Got promoted after 1,500 messages and was banned within the week.

Funny thing was that he genuinely wasn't a liverpool fan...
 
One like and no need for approval anymore?! Yea sounds like tones of fun ahead. Good luck to mods and remember when you get tired, just like their post and they wont be your problem anymore.
 
One like and no need for approval anymore?! Yea sounds like tones of fun ahead. Good luck to mods and remember when you get tired, just like their post and they wont be your problem anymore.
1 like gives you just 3 posts a day in the mains. It goes up as you get more likes with the cap removed once you hit 10.
 
The rules before were perfect. Why change? I dont think its a good idea.
 
The rules before were perfect. Why change? I dont think its a good idea.
The system before was better. 1 is too less.
We lose too many new joinees who sign up to respond to a discussion they find interesting only to realise they can't post there and thus leave never to return. We have a strong team to take care of shite anyways.
 
I think we are good at responding to evidence on this forum. Old newbie system wasn't working, so Niall changed it. The new system is much better, but we also want to address retention of potentially good (but infrequent) posters.

In the past, some newbies seemed doomed to stay in the newbie forums forever, even though they weren't causing any trouble. Now they can get a voice in the mains, which encourages them to keep posting.
 
I would have stayed in the newbies forever if I wasn't given a nudge to hurry up. Some might say that nudge should never have been given but they can feck off. This is A Good Thing™ in my opinion.
 
:lol: We've been discussing this for a couple of months while we've been ironing out the finer details.

We've had a good start to the new system - someone who has been a member for nearly four years with zero posts made their first post ever tonight... and it was in a mains thread.
What did he/she post? It must be bloody fantastic!
 
Looks like I was one of the last few who had to get 10 likes to make my first post in the Mains Forum. But the present system is actually better to get in new members and keeping them interested. Under the old system, I'm sure many newbies just gave up on trying to get the 10 likes. Now you don't even have to worry about the likes and can actually contribute to the Mains Forum.
 
Good idea. End of the day, if you aren't good enough or a pillock.. I am sure the Mods will be alert to that and not let that newbie post in the mains, not a big deal.. better this, than lose out on loads of potentially decent posters.
 
Newly registered members and members on 0 likes can now post in the Main Football Forums 3 times per day. Those posts must be approved by the moderators before they become visible to others on the forum.

Once a member receives their first like their posts will no longer require moderator approval.

This change is to address a long term drawback of the Newbie System where people who register cannot immediately contribute to discussions in the Main Forums. People sign up because of the discussions in those forums but are blocked from contributing in those discussions until they receive one like.

That is a definite turn off for a lot of new members and we want to give people the chance to get involved in the mains straight away so they'll hopefully stick around to become valuable members of the community.

I like this. I have registered on this site quite a few years back but got promoted only few days back (pretty sure my 'online' time on this site will be super high, though :) )

The ability to not post in Mains was a definite turn off for me and I stopped making an attempt to get promoted - its only in the last 2 months that I actively posted on this site. Not that I am complaining, I always enjoyed reading redcafe threads
 
Newly registered members and members on 0 likes can now post in the Main Football Forums 3 times per day. Those posts must be approved by the moderators before they become visible to others on the forum.

Posters in the mains who started before newbie system should be demoted to newbies and ask them to work their way up :D
 
I can't see it having a good effect on the already dwindling community feel. What was one of the major draws of the caf for a lot.
Or maybe it will help it.

The amount of shirty feckers in the ff seems to be at an all time high after the last change though, and getting worse.
 
Have to say a big thanks for the full membership, really enjoying the forum and hopefully my warnings for the use of "u" are firmly behind me. Can I ask do you guys take donation for server costs? Or is that not required?

Also can I ask has a non United fan ever been a mod or scout (in the newbie) forums?
 
Have to say a big thanks for the full membership, really enjoying the forum and hopefully my warnings for the use of "u" are firmly behind me. Can I ask do you guys take donation for server costs? Or is that not required?

Also can I ask has a non United fan ever been a mod or scout (in the newbie) forums?
Re. your last question - yes, we have had scouts and mods who aren't United supporters. It's not unusual (as Tom Jones would say).
 
Doesn't this new system disincentivise getting promoted just a tad?

Obviously promotion means that additional posts can be made in mains forum, but it also means that a good chunk of the site, the newbies section, is cut off.

Why bother have the newbies any more, would you not be better to just moderate new posters to the website until they get sufficient likes and then give them full access? Does this new system kill the newbies a bit, i.e. posters only posting in the mains?
 
Doesn't this new system disincentivise getting promoted just a tad?

Obviously promotion means that additional posts can be made in mains forum, but it also means that a good chunk of the site, the newbies section, is cut off.

Why bother have the newbies any more, would you not be better to just moderate new posters to the website until they get sufficient likes and then give them full access? Does this new system kill the newbies a bit, i.e. posters only posting in the mains?
The newbie forums still have a purpose - it's a good place to get used to posting sensibly (especially for people who may be used to other boards, where anything goes). Newbies can also post as much as they like in the newbie threads, alongside gaining likes and gradually increasing their daily posts in the main forums. They can pick up likes in newbie and mains football threads, so it's worth their while to keep posting in the newbies.
 
We lose too many new joinees who sign up to respond to a discussion they find interesting only to realise they can't post there and thus leave never to return. We have a strong team to take care of shite anyways.
Some shite has already started to appear

I think he was good with the ball for Benfica, and apparently good in reading the game. Give him time. He must have done something right for Benfica to make us buy him for ~£30m
Poor logic. What did Fellaini do for Everton to demand 27.5 million for a player who, at his prime, still does not have a defined position? What did PSV do to prove depay is good enough? The selling club has no obligation nor do they care about how the player turns out.. Most of the purchases United have authorised recently have been overpriced and ineffective. Although it is early, it would be no surprise if Lindelof falls into that category
 
I understand the wish for the forum to grow, but it's honestly affecting the quality of the football forum. It was a lot better a few years ago imo. Most of the shit posts nowadays comes from newbies with few likes. Lots of people stay away from the football forums and it's a shame that is has come to this.
 
I understand the wish for the forum to grow, but it's honestly affecting the quality of the football forum. It was a lot better a few years ago imo. Most of the shit posts nowadays comes from newbies with few likes. Lots of people stay away from the football forums and it's a shame that is has come to this.

Nice coded 'we want WW' message man.
 
Nothing wrong with a poster having a different opinion to you, and nothing wrong with that post.
There's nothing wrong with that post in terms of formatting or language, but I'm sure most here will disagree with the points in that post. The poster came with some statements which I'm sure most will disagree with, and he or she didn't back them up and explain them. As I stated above, I don't think the quality of the posts in the football forum are as high as it used to be. I think the bar is set too low.
 
Some shite has already started to appear
I can see his point, even if I don't necessarily agree. It's also more reasonable and well stated than quite a few posts you'll see from promoted members.
 
Some shite has already started to appear

That's right guys, let's follow the leading example of Macern on quality football posts.

Who is faster? Don't use your eyes, use stats from Fifa:
He thinks he's faster than Rashford..

He isn't? Watch his goal vs Cameroon for instant then come back here.

He ran equally fast as some player called Nounkeu, is that going to convince me that he's faster than Rashford? You're deluded. Perisic' pace (acceleration/sprint speed) in Football Manager is 16/15 and 82/87 in FIFA whereas Rashford's pace is 18/17 and 91/90. Point me to another one on this forum that agrees with you that Perisic is faster than Rashford.


Being Objective:
Fifa and Football Manager. You win, I give up... :lol:

It's hard to compare their pace in any other objective way. When the professionals at EA and SI agree on something they're usually correct. Ask anyone on this forum then and see who they think is faster. You realize you're the only one here saying that? It's crazy. He's fast but he's definitely not as fast as Rashford let alone faster.


Only when Fifa & EA agree though:
It's hard to compare their pace in any other objective way. When the professionals at EA and SI agree on something they're usually correct. Ask anyone on this forum then and see who they think is faster. You realize you're the only one here saying that? It's crazy. He's fast but he's definitely not as fast as Rashford let alone faster.

I'm not saying who is the fastest here, but did you really use FM stats to back up your claim as being gospel?

Gospel?

I think it's fair to use FIFA and FM as arguments when arguing about pace, when they're both are in agreement that is. I've worked as a data editor for EA myself editing player stats for my local team and I know how much they strive to have a database as accurate as possible. It's a better argument than Ban showing me a video of Perisic running alongside a player I've never heard of.



Guess work - it's the only objective way:
The databases are highly serious and a number of clubs are using the FM database as a scouting tool. Obviously they aren't always accurate but it's the only objective way of comparing their pace that I could think of.

How did you measure ones speed in these stats? For instance, how many points are equal to what MPH/KPH?

Doesn't work like that. A number of people agree on the stats using their opinions from watching the players.

So guess work then?

What do you think? Do you think the EA representatives bring in every player in the game to perform speed tests?

No I don't, which is exactly the point I was making, but thank you for saying it for me. ;)

Which again why it is ridiculous you using these stats to back an argument up with imo. You have just admitted a bunch of people guess at them.
 
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