Think that's probably wishful thinking, Spoons.
New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built - design visualisation released
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Amazon at Sold Trafford
I went to SoFi last summer for the pre-season game and it didn't strike me as being particularly steep but that could just be because it's so open.
Looking back at the pictures, it seems that the top tier is the steepest, and I was in the middle.
I can see both cases. On one hand it doesn't technically make sense, but on the other the name does pay homage to what came before in a way that nothing else would. Unless we keep the Old Trafford name itself since we are rebuilding on almost the same site.
However I'd be quite surprised if we don't sell the naming rights to help pay for the rebuild, so we'll probably end up with INEOS Stadium, Snapdragon Stadium or something along those lines.
Do you not think it’s just lazy and childish? Let’s just call it the opposite of old because it’s a new stadium. Nah not for me, im older than 14.
I do agree it’ll be something to do with a sponsor so something like “Amazon @ Old Trafford” would be acceptable to me
What is the risk that some people will object and take legal action?
There’s probably a risk. Everyone objects and complains. Don’t think there is a risk of any valid objection that will have any sort of impact.
Is that something they seriously consider?
Would be idiotic for all sorts of reasons - not that I'd be surprised if it happened.
Is there a danger the club could be completely screwed over by this?
Saw it mentioned that the stadium could be owned by a subsidiary company of Man United which makes me nervous. What's to stop the Glazers from selling the club but keeping the stadium and Manchester United becomes a tenant of Glazer owned Old Trafford? You really wouldn't put it past them.
Saw it mentioned that the stadium could be owned by a subsidiary company of Man United which makes me nervous. What's to stop the Glazers from selling the club but keeping the stadium and Manchester United becomes a tenant of Glazer owned Old Trafford? You really wouldn't put it past them.
It’s the working name at the moment
He might not be - that is the problem. A young player signed with all the fans and the club putting the weight of the world on his shoulders to be this prolific goalscorer. When Rasmus was signed, we should have already had that seasoned forward. When Rooney was signed, Ruud was there. Yes, Rooney was a talent that made an impact straight away but the point being an already season forward was there.
When Macheda (A young player) got a few chances in the team, we had a wealth of forwards that we didn't rely on him to get 20 plus goals. Macheda didn't work out - but he was given chances to prosper. With Rasmus, we are expecting him to be our main goalscorer.
This to me is the problem - (Obi Martin) - already we are comparing him and expecting him to be the main man at such a young age. These players, IMO, really need to be here for a few years under a seasoned forward.
This is just my opinion - You could be 100% right about Rasmus but I just think it's crazy how many people expect these young players to have all the answers.
The problem is the cost of signing them and the high money their on, it's hard to give excuses for them but every other big team pretty much have that seasoned forward and players like Rasmus and Obi Martin could spend a few seasons breaking into the team that the team can then rely on.
Rasmus is 22, so not that young.
I just don't think he'll be top class. He could be serviceable for a couple of years though.
He could get 20+ goals in all comps next season. But even then, I'd sell him if possible.
I bet our scouts are looking for a replacement even now to rotate with Rasmus as Obi Martin could be 3 years away from being a starter, although he's a unit physically.
It's impossible to say with Obi Martin, if he'll be top class or not.
Rooney's talent was obvious at 17. He was already top class.
I'd imagine Ratcliffe now owns enough of the club to make sure that could not happen. He'd have to agree to it all.
Why are we discussing this here? Take it to the relevant thread.
What do the season ticket holders think of this.
Have you been to Spurs stadium? If yours is anything like theirs, ST holders will be absolutely delighted. It’s the best stadium I’ve ever been to, better than Wembley.
My wife who’s American and has no care for footy is shocked we’re tearing it down and creating something new. To her Old Trafford is practically a graded building which should be restored and preserved forever. It has so much history. Now we’re replacing it with a soulless stadium.
I agree and always voted to keep our current stadium.
I agree and always voted to keep our current stadium.
Unfortunately I think it has to be done.
It's Triggers broom anyway or that Greek ship.
If Barcelona moved 100m to a new stadium, I wouldn't say all their history is lost.
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The fans held in place by magnets
I genuinely think this has always been the Glazers preferred option, thats why they let it rot without care. Supposedly they approached the council way back in 2018 about the regeneration thing. So its their brainchild, not Sir Jims.
Trigger's Broom could apply to Manchester United FC as a whole, so it's not really a point in favor of leaving Old Trafford imo.
To be fair all the renovations and upgrades over the decades are part of the stadiums history.
They didn't though, they renovated the Nou Camp.
If Sir Jim is paying for it, it’s more likely he/INEOS would own the stadium in these circumstances rather than the glazers.
I dont think they will be paying for it do you?
I’m expecting it to be a route to him getting more equity in the club tbh. I feel that’s why he’s pushing the new stadium so much.
He's not that young but he's still years away from his peak. We can't expect every young player to develop properly when we always have to rely on them, it's so much pressure. They get paid a huge amount of money but it's not just about that. I can't remember how many times he has ran and ran and made good runs for nothing to come his way. He gets frustrated, everyone can see that. He might not be top class but I think it's unfair to even be putting him in that category. We really should have a seasoned player starting and slowly allow him to become a starter if he warrants one.
The scouts likely are and I think that is a good thing.
Rooney was, he was a special player. But there's not many Rooney's out there. Again with Rooney - if it did take him some time to fit into the team - Ruud was there, Saha, Ole, Forlan. Look how many options were there when United signed a young potential star (he already was one, to be fair.) Rasmus comes in, what other serious forward options were here?
Honestly, though, I understand where you're coming from.
Now we're talking
Regarding what name it'll have, I feel like The Trident has a nice ring to it and officially it can include a sponsorship to be something along the lines of 'The Snapdragon Trident' or 'The Amazon Trident'. It can't stay as Old Trafford and definitely not the New Trafford thing people keep trying.
Considering I spent most of my life in Manchester, I didn't go to Old Trafford as much as I'd have liked for matches but enough to feel its atmosphere and history. I even went there for my school prom so I have many great memories. But it's too exciting an opportunity to pass up creating such a world class stadium.
I now live in Japan and I've met many football fans that would spend a lot of money travelling all the way to Manchester just for a game. Yes there are those that hate this kind of tourism but don't underestimate the impact having a world class stadium will have around the world.
If this is our future then I'm excited for what's to come after enduring the past 12 years.
Considering I spent most of my life in Manchester, I didn't go to Old Trafford as much as I'd have liked for matches but enough to feel its atmosphere and history. I even went there for my school prom so I have many great memories. But it's too exciting an opportunity to pass up creating such a world class stadium.
I now live in Japan and I've met many football fans that would spend a lot of money travelling all the way to Manchester just for a game. Yes there are those that hate this kind of tourism but don't underestimate the impact having a world class stadium will have around the world.
If this is our future then I'm excited for what's to come after enduring the past 12 years.
Jim isn’t stupid , if he thought this would get a no he wouldn’t be proposing half of this .
It’s not 100 but it’s close to it
The stadium announcement seemed to take the government somewhat by surprise. A spokesperson at 10 Downing Street said of the government’s possible commitment: "The [stadium] proposals involve significant investment and could generate 90,000 jobs and a significant boost to the economy. It’s only been announced today, so we are unsure as to the amount yet. I’m not aware of any government support that has been committed to the project."
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ew-stadium-next-to-old-trafford-norman-foster
Like you, I still have some doubts. Ratcliffe no doubt favours a new build and surely hopes that the public announcement will get some momentum behind the project and act as a catalyst for the government investment, upon which the entire project rests. From both the government and United's perspective, it remains completely unfunded, though, and until that changes, it is probably worth maintaining some healthy skepticism.
There are lots of reasons why this project could fail. Frankly involving government increases the risk.
Until we have a spade in the ground, then these risks are significant.
However, as I said I think it’s more likely to go ahead than not.
I don't think this will ever get built. It's probably a smokescreen.
Yeah, as the new ground is still in Old Trafford you will be correct.
Smokescreen for what?
It's Trump style tactics of diverting attention from what is really going on or might be about to. Firing more staff, more Glazer bleeding of our club, awful transfer business, etc etc
I think Jim is a bit of a Trump type who wants to be seen to be doing big grand things, or at least talking about doing them. He hasn't really impressed me at all so far. And if we see some improvement in how the club is being run, it's because it was so fecking terribly run before he got there. So terrible, it couldn't have been more terrible.
He definetly wants a new stadium - it's his legacy piece.
I share your skepticism on whether it will happen, but he defo wants one.
But would prefer not to have to pay for (much of) it.