Well okay technically you’re correctIt said bettered, not equalled
Well okay technically you’re correct
But it would be like me doing a hole in one and then saying “nobody in golf history has bettered my hole in one” - it’s deliberately misleading
It's always the same when Shaw is injured. People seem to forget how good he actually is, and starts to undervalue him. It's weird, usually it's the other way around with injured players - people start thinking of them as better than they are and the solution to all our problems.This is just plain wrong. He's one of the best LBs in the league when he's on form. The issue is obviously the latter part, with his injury record.
What does this mean? Of course his issue is fitness.Shaw's issue is not even fitness. His talent is off the charts and should be the best LB in the world. He doesn't want it badly enough though.
He infamously fell out with Woodward over Maguire, im guessing was vetoed because he had already been given Bailly and LindelofWe always give the managers wrong players unfortunately. He wasn't backed with right players .
He was past it anyway. We would still have lingered around 3-5 which we are doing it anyways
You'd have no sympathy for him if not for the fact United went and massively overpaid for Maguire a year later and made him captain.He infamously fell out with Woodward over Maguire, im guessing was vetoed because he had already been given Bailly and Lindelof
So, he lacks some ability to guide a team correctly then, even if he builds the team.One could argue he built the team and then others just needed to guide it correctly.
Yes, it's why I think managers often come in and do better but in reality have they done that much better? Since Conte at Chelsea nobody has really put him to shame, even de Rossi now is probably enjoying a honeymoon period but will it last?So, he lacks some ability to guide a team correctly then, even if he builds the team.
You'd have no sympathy for him if not for the fact United went and massively overpaid for Maguire a year later and made him captain.
I hope this doesn’t kick Mourinho revisionism into overdrive
I think Mourinho is always guilty of a bit of revisionism, but there might be an element of truth to some things. For example, Ten Hag was backed to implement his authority and get rid of Ronaldo, remove the captaincy from Maguire, outcast Sancho. Part of the problem is Mourinhos, as his past means there's an air of potential toxicity around him always, but there is definitely no secret that he wanted rid of Martial and Shaw, and Rashford too didnt seem particularly rated by him. Initially we at least an air of authority under him on the pitch, with Ibrahimovic very much being in his mould.
These wouldnt have been revelatory signings but if we're going back to Mourinho's time, lets say the summer of 2017, after his first season. That's almost 7 years ago. It is quite incredible that Martial is still here, and while Shaw is in my opinion a brilliant player, we wouldnt have crumbled without him. The players we were linked with at that time, namely Perisic and Willian:
Perisic went to Inter in summer of 2017. He played 254 games in the next 6 seasons, with Inter, Bayern and Spurs, by which point he was around 33. He also scored 44 goals in that time, played and scored in a world cup final, won 2 domestic leagues and a champions league. He is a consumate professional and a consistent performer, and if I remember rightly almost the entire united fanbase turned their nose up in scorn at the very idea of signing him.
Willian was at Chelsea in summer 2017. He was pretty much ever present, never injured for the next 3 seasons at chelsea, playing 158 times in three seasons (!) and scoring 32. Years later, after a stint in brazil, he still plays PL football week in week out though of course would likely have been moved on from united in that time.
If we compare those 2 players, to shaw and martial in that time - Mourinho is obviously right. There does seem in retrospect to have been a culture under mourinho where he was treated with a certain suspicion, and he should have been backed to bring in these 2 continually fit, experienced model professionals in particular.
It's Martial and Shaw
Jose loves himself a bit of Jose. Still hasn't had a job since Inter where someone else hasn't come in and immediately done as well or better.
De Rossi is already showing him up at Roma.
Would have been a good interim if we had sacked ETH earlier. Would have secured top 4 I reckon.
He wants the job
I remember that. Aerosmith wrote a song for him too.Tbf I don't think it needs to for him to have credibility. The guy single handedly prevented halleys comet from colliding with the moon
I assume when he said "couple", he meant two. I'm not sure what his feelings on Rashford are.And Rashford
A 3rd tier trophy which did not exist when Jose last was relevant.He built the Roma team and won them a European trophy
A 3rd tier trophy which did not exist when Jose last was relevant.
Shaw has proven him wrong if that’s who he is referring to. His injury record isn’t great, but you cannot question his ability or professionalism.
A 3rd tier trophy which did not exist when Jose last was relevant.
Feck him.
Well okay technically you’re correct
But it would be like me doing a hole in one and then saying “nobody in golf history has bettered my hole in one” - it’s deliberately misleading
United fans saying Shaw isn't that good is a laughably bad take. He is easily one of our best players and has been for quite a while now but sadly can not stay fit.
Well it's not, and it's self serving.Why? Everything he says is true.
Well it's not, and it's self serving.
From the board’s perspective, they had backed him with a few “old” players with no resale value and it didnt work. How can a guy we allowed to break the world record fee complain about being backed? By the way we went on to pay about the same for Lukaku the following summer. Never mind the unreal amount of money we paid for Sanchez.