So does everyone in Europe mate
Neville: Varane, Sancho, Kane
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So does everyone in Europe mate
Why buy Kane when you can compete for Mbappe and Haaland next year for half the price. Everyone thinks we have no chance but we seem to be ok attracting top talent. The links between Sancho and Haaland and Ole and Haaland count for something. I say leave Kane and go all out for Haaland next year. Or Mbappe. He plays out wide but I dont care. Id put him at number 9. With Rashford and Sancho interchanging who cares.
Cavani is still as sharp as ever. What he lacks in pace he makes up by his positioning and perfectly timed run.
No reason to buy Kane because he is stupidly expensive. Buy a DM, Camavinga or Neves preferably, win a few trophies next season and then spend everything on Haaland.
Then we'd have a team good enough to compete for everything.
No reason to buy Kane because he is stupidly expensive. Buy a DM, Camavinga or Neves preferably, win a few trophies next season and then spend everything on Haaland.
Then we'd have a team good enough to compete for everything.
We're good for a striker for now. Next season will probably be different when Cavani is another year older, but it the meantime we've got him, Martial and a couple more who can play up front to a good enough standard if required.
We won't necessarily get him but Haaland's clause kicks in next season too so it'd be silly to spend big on Kane when we could be in the mix for Haaland at that point.
Any money left over has to go towards a midfielder, especially so if Pogba's leaving. We can get by with the strikers we have but we'll struggle to win or challenge for the big ones with another season of McTominay and Fred playing most weeks.
We won't necessarily get him but Haaland's clause kicks in next season too so it'd be silly to spend big on Kane when we could be in the mix for Haaland at that point.
Any money left over has to go towards a midfielder, especially so if Pogba's leaving. We can get by with the strikers we have but we'll struggle to win or challenge for the big ones with another season of McTominay and Fred playing most weeks.
Yup, we have the two most important targets from that list by far. As much as I rate Kane, I’m not convinced he’s a huge upgrade on an in-form Cavani, the one we saw finish the season is still one of the finest strikers around. Kane would likely play more games though for sure.
Varane and Sancho are huge upgrades in areas we’ve desperately needed to strengthen.
The only real question mark in the side for this upcoming season is that sitting midfielder if we’re gonna go with 4-1-2-3. I don’t think it’s as hard a job as is made out for 90% of matches, so I think we could get by with what we have if we concentrate on them doing one job and limit their duties to simply sitting.
I’d personally strongly consider Neves if he’s available on the cheap as he’d maintain a good sell on value and is positionally disciplined.
We can’t afford Kane after Varane and Sancho, we should look at shifting some deadwood now and putting the money towards a new DM and that would arguably be one of our best ever windows.
In all honesty next summer I’m expecting 2 of the best strikers in the world to be available (M’bappe and Haaland) Im hoping we’re all in on one of them.
In all honesty next summer I’m expecting 2 of the best strikers in the world to be available (M’bappe and Haaland) Im hoping we’re all in on one of them.
Having a world class striker like Kane would immediately push us level pegging with City for the title IMO.
We don't need Kane. What we need is a complete CM that is able to put McT/Fred on the bench
I genuinely don't think Cavani is enough, mate. I just keep hearing Ferguson saying, "Pass to van Persie whenever you can; he will win you the league."
Go all in and get Haaland. Haaland, Sancho, Rashford and Greenwood - now that is a nice attacking quartet 
This isn’t the summer for Kane now. Cavani greenwood and martial can do a job and when one or two of those leave next summer, then will be the time to splurge big cash on a Haaland.
We are now a top class ball taking and playing CDM away from genuine title contenders. Fred or Matic not good enough to win a league with.
We are now a top class ball taking and playing CDM away from genuine title contenders. Fred or Matic not good enough to win a league with.
Some of these early posts didn't age well
Exactly.
Fair enough but City won the league this year with basically no striker and Liverpool walked the league without one either a couple years ago. We don't have someone who will score 25+ goals but we have like 4-5 players who can realistically score 15+ each. I would wait a year and then go all in on Haaland/Kane.
Given that Neville breathes United and studies them in extreme detail as his job and life.. I'm very surprised he didn't see the need for a midfielder.
I believe in McTominay more than most on here and think he still will improve. Pogba and Fernandes are obviously good enough. But beyond that, Fred obviously isn't up to par and you're relying a lot on van de Beek completely turning it around. But again, i don't think he suits a midfield 2 or the DM role.
I believe in McTominay more than most on here and think he still will improve. Pogba and Fernandes are obviously good enough. But beyond that, Fred obviously isn't up to par and you're relying a lot on van de Beek completely turning it around. But again, i don't think he suits a midfield 2 or the DM role.
To be fair he won leagues with some absolutely shite midfield combinations playing a hideous amount of games, nowhere near the standard of Pogba, Fernandes, Fred.
I think we might have to because of the finances. I don't buy into this idea a midfielder will solve our problems. It might bin off Fred, and we might be better in play (depending who it is) but I don't see it winning us the league.
I don't see it either but even with Kane. League is City's again I think.
Mbappe is nailed on for Madrid unless there’s some sort of financial implosion. I hope we do go all out for Haaland although the greedy agent/father stories are concerning.
I'd rather sign a CDM and a RB than Kane IMO.
Go for Haaland next season and we've got a super team.
Let's be honest whoever signs Haaland is going to have to pay a LOT of money, he's the best young striker on Earth right now.
They'll be rich as feck whatever happens, but i'd rather they be rich with him wearing red.
Go for Haaland next season and we've got a super team.
Let's be honest whoever signs Haaland is going to have to pay a LOT of money, he's the best young striker on Earth right now.
They'll be rich as feck whatever happens, but i'd rather they be rich with him wearing red.
Don't want Kane at all.
Is correct, and also maybe a right full-back given how increasingly important their role is in the modern game.
With all due respect to Neville, as I loved him as a player, he & his brother dont have a clue when it comes to management.
Harry Kane is an excellent striker no doubt, but he’s gonna cost over 100m & we already have 4 strikers who are proven at PL level. We have a gaping hole at defensive mid which needs to be the next signing.
Harry Kane is an excellent striker no doubt, but he’s gonna cost over 100m & we already have 4 strikers who are proven at PL level. We have a gaping hole at defensive mid which needs to be the next signing.
I want Haaland not Kane. Haaland is going to be the best CF in the world and has so many years ahead of him. Kane has past his peak already.
Did he mean Varane, Sancho, Ronaldo right?
I'm not sure why there is even talk about Kane. You can get 7 year younger Haaland for probably less money. Enough with this "hajack Machester City" talk. We already hijacked Fred, Alexis and whoever else........
Neville better expect 90-95 points now
Neville seems a bit hypocritical
Said a couple of months ago that if we sign Varane, Sancho and Kane and we would win the league.
We sign Varane, Sancho and Ronaldo and he predicts we will finish 3rd.
Ok then… either he rates Ronaldo as that much worse than Kane. Or he thinks Kane will lead Spurs to 1st or 2nd
Said a couple of months ago that if we sign Varane, Sancho and Kane and we would win the league.
We sign Varane, Sancho and Ronaldo and he predicts we will finish 3rd.
Ok then… either he rates Ronaldo as that much worse than Kane. Or he thinks Kane will lead Spurs to 1st or 2nd
Maybe now we have signed that no 9 he has been losing his shite over his eyes will finally be open to the CDM problem
I was surprised he I didn’t highlight the DM/CM position originally. Everyone knew that needed addressing
He is all about glamour names that's why
Doesn't have to be. The only conceivable angle you'd be able to hold Neville to that would be if he knew the other teams' transfer plans and still made the statement.
In (purely illustrative) numbers:
Us going from 3200 to 3600 matters much less if Chelsea has gone from 3500 to 3800 and City has gone from 3500 to 3700.
Our new team technically beats their team at the point of Neville's comments, but it no longer applies as the comparable teams have been altered as well.
Could argue it's a bit daft of a statement to be making, but that's Gary isn't it.
Yeah but Chelsea finished 7 points and 2 places behind us (the previous season they finished on the same point and 1 place below) we then signed Sancho, Varane and fecking Ronaldo so how the feck anyone works that one out I don't know.
City made one signing of any note and still have no striker.
Is there any forward in England who is really good after 30-31 years of age after playing continuously in EPL from young age. I can't think of any. If you play as a forward in EPL for more than 10 years, I think you will not be a same player beyond 30-31 years.
Rooney once he crossed 30 years went down-hill and I think Kane will also go through the same. After 30 he will lose couple of yards of pace and he will start drifting more and more into midfield. So in that sense, buying Cristiano is better deal than kane.
Rooney once he crossed 30 years went down-hill and I think Kane will also go through the same. After 30 he will lose couple of yards of pace and he will start drifting more and more into midfield. So in that sense, buying Cristiano is better deal than kane.
I do take your point, but he even said himself that we needed those big signings (Varane, Sancho and Kane) BECAUSE City, Liverpool and Chelsea would strengthen themselves.
If city had signed Messi, Liverpool had signed Mbappe and Chelsea had signed Ronaldo, I could accept your point. But none of them did anything more than you expected them to back when Neville made the statement. In fact I would say they all did less.
Has been said before; worth saying again: Neville is a rubbish pundit.
Aguero? Vardy (not all in PL but all in England)?
I think what you're asking for is pretty specific. There are not that many really good strikers in the world, let alone England, let alone ones who spent 10+ years playing in England from a young age.
Everyone always knew Rooney didn't take care of himself as much as he could have, plus he was playing week in week out at 16/17.
Aguero joined late around 23-24. Vardy was unheard till leicester promoted to PL and I wont put him in elite striker category anyway.
My point is if you are playing in premier league from young age, I dont think you will have legs in your later part of career and wont be very prolific. You have to give 100 % in every PL game unlike other leagues and that takes a toll and you have to adjust your game for that so thats why i think we are better off without Kane in 30s.
120 goals in 8 seasons in the premier league and a league and cup winner is surely enough to be in the elite category.
@skc_18 Shearer scored 84 PL goals in his 30s. He retired at 35