Neville - ‘’no style of play’’

Gary has actually said he doesn’t think we’ve planned to make a managerial change during the season. That’s an extremely bad business practice if that’s even true. I don’t know if he’s just shielding his mate though.
 
Disgrace

He wants United relegated. He must be a secret City or Liverpool fan, i cant explain it
 
Someone said:
Did he actually say that? Unbelievable.
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He said the club won't sack him and they will hold firm until end of season. Amazed how he has inside knowledge of the board
 
At this stage, Carragher looks like a United fan, and Neville like a United hater.
 
Sviken said:
Said the guy that sacks 5 managers per month at Salford. What a clown. Despite his career here, I'm beginning to seriously dislike this man.
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He actually mentioned that he sacked the manager last year after 6 matches, and it was a mistake.
 
Revan said:
At this stage, Carragher looks like a United fan, and Neville like a United hater.
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Honestly does. It's like a Liverpool fan is saying everything to keep him in the job
 
The cheek of Neville to be calling us to stick with the manager after that performance and the poor run of form for the last 6 months while his Salford club are famous for sacking their managers.
 
Chairman Steve said:
Gary has actually said he doesn’t think we’ve planned to make a managerial change during the season. That’s an extremely bad business practice if that’s even true. I don’t know if he’s just shielding his mate though.
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He’s right though they’ve just given Ole and Phelan new contracts on the verge of giving Carrick and McKenna new deals. This will be a total shock and no one will have a clue what to do.
 
Revan said:
At this stage, Carragher looks like a United fan, and Neville like a United hater.
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Just like a few of the our ex-players, they only care more about their mates than the club.
 
Revan said:
At this stage, Carragher looks like a United fan, and Neville like a United hater.
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Carra has owned Neville. You can see the belligerence on Nevs face, same as Ole, absolute empitomy of arrogance and conceit. Refusing to admit the truth.
 
Statistically we improved 4th, 3rd, 2nd. But anyone who thinks we can improve on second this year is insane.

We invested heavily and still haven't figured out a style of play. Our more reliable players are having the worst form of their career.

I predict we will finish 6th but really late in the season before 4th isn't possible and Glazers will reluctantly sack Ole with no one in mind and scramble for a new manager during the summer.

Friends FC with Fletcher above him
 
elnorte said:
Yep. Again not just a case of a new manager just walking in, clicking his fingers and winning the league.
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Chelsea looked just as bad under Lampard. You will be surprised how quickly a competent manager can turn this group of players around. These are pedigree international stars, not Andreas and co.

Issue is even top players look clueless under a manager completely out of his depth, especially against other quality players who are coached by a world class manager.

I am surprised so many people are now saying the players aren't good enough and then also claiming Ole has done a good rebuild job. Not pointing at you but have seen these two comments thrown around and it's funny since both are pretty much mutually exclusive.
 
dal said:
Ferguson should have been sacked in 1989 then, genius.
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Yeah compare every incompetent manager to Fergie's initial years at United. That will do the trick.
Also, Fergie had just won the league with Aberdeen against Celtic and Rangers. So he had shown his quality. What exactly had Ole done in his 10 year managerial stint?
 
Sviken said:
Said the guy that sacks 5 managers per month at Salford. What a clown. Despite his career here, I'm beginning to seriously dislike this man.
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Yep, great at United but he is one of the biggest.knobheads around.
 
NK86 said:
Yeah compare every incompetent manager to Fergie's initial years at United. That will do the trick.
Also, Fergie had just won the league with Aberdeen against Celtic and Rangers. So he had shown his quality. What exactly had Ole done in his 10 year managerial stint?
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Not forgetting beating Real Madrid in the 1983 Euro Cup Winners Cup Final.
 
What is he on about?
He's saying to blindly support a manager who sadly isnt good enough.
He keeps talking about Van Gaal and Mourinho but both of those had become dinosaurs when it came to the modern game.
He keeps talking about pressure mounting on Ole. How much more f**king pressure can something take before it gives up.
 
bonothom said:
Not forgetting beating Real Madrid in the 1983 Euro Cup Winners Cup Final.
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No point discussing this with some on here. They would not see a shit storm even if it gets shoved down their throat.
 
At the moment, it's just pure chaos and hoping the momentum of the fans and passion will see us roaring back from conceding the inevitable early goal.

Going back to the early days of his reign there was a massive underdog mentality instilled in terms of playing deep, on the counter with forward players who pressed the hell out of the opposition and perhaps compensated for their lack of brilliance with tremendous energy and workrate. Seems to me he's got far better players now but doesn't know how to get them to play in a coherent way.
 
His implementation of the high press alone spells incompetence. It looked like Ole just told them to win the ball at the halfway line and nothing else.
 
Greck said:
His implementation of the high press alone spells incompetence. It looked like Ole just told them to win the ball at the halfway line and nothing else.
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Looks like it, yeh. The way players half heartedly pressing it seems they never drill this in training, ever. May be Ole told them just before the match, "go on lads, press them"
 
Revan said:
At this stage, Carragher looks like a United fan, and Neville like a United hater.
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Carragher says it like it is most of the time, and he's always reasonable and makes so much sense. Neville sticks to agenda no matter what, once he forms an opinion on something he won't budge.
 
Carragher and Souness were giving better analysis on what is happening than Neville. He was very defensive tonight. I agree with Souness that Ole looks like he needs help. If the club won't sack him, they need to bring in someone that can help the coaches. These performances are so bad and something needs to change.
 
Neville was embarrassing on Sky earlier. When it was suggested United needed a more experienced manager he said no Van Gaal and Mourinno proved that doesn't work, then when it was suggested maybe we need more experienced coaches he said we have Mike Phelan so the problem isn't with the coaching side either as he has bags of experience.

Souness also got a little dig in saying he was more than happy for United to keep going on the way they are.
 
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NK86 said:
Yeah compare every incompetent manager to Fergie's initial years at United. That will do the trick.
Also, Fergie had just won the league with Aberdeen against Celtic and Rangers. So he had shown his quality. What exactly had Ole done in his 10 year managerial stint?
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Forget about the League. He also won the Cup Winners Cup against Real Madrid and beating Bayern on the way to the Final. What has Ole won before he came to United? League in Norway.
 
CloneMC16 said:
Carragher and Souness were giving better analysis on what is happening than Neville. He was very defensive tonight. I agree with Souness that Ole looks like he needs help. If the club won't sack him, they need to bring in someone that can help the coaches. These performances are so bad and something needs to change.
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Maybe in the summer they could have got away with bringing in coaches, it's way beyond that now. Hopefully he is sacked in the next 24 hours for his own sake. It is just a matter of time. Never has a coach come back from being this close to the edge.
 
It’s not easy for Neville. Rock and a hard place. He clearly knows/feels that management needs the boot but the manager is a former team mate and a good friend.
He’d have been better going home after the match rather than defend the indefensible.
 
Ixion said:
Neville was embarrassing on Sky earlier. When it was suggested United needed a more experienced manager he said no Van Gaal and Mourinno proved that doesn't work, then when it was suggested maybe we need more experienced coaches he said we have Mike Phelan so the problem isn't with the coaching side either as he has bags of experience.
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And why was he saying there was no way Ole wouldn’t bring anybody in and that it doesn’t happen. Fergie brought in random on coaches at random times for the entirety of his reign.
 
lilcurt said:
Maybe in the summer they could have got away with bringing in coaches, it's way beyond that now. Hopefully he is sacked in the next 24 hours for his own sake. It is just a matter of time. Never has a coach come back from being this close to the edge.
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I agree with you, but I don't know with this club. Gary said he thinks Ole will get until the the end of the season. It wouldn't even shock me if he did. If it were my decision, he would be getting sacked tomorrow morning. If he isn't getting sacked, the club needs to bring in some new people to help out.
 
Solius The Red said:
And why was he saying there was no way Ole wouldn’t bring anybody in and that it doesn’t happen. Fergie brought in random on coaches at random times for the entirety of his reign.
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Because they are mates and Ole told him that? Ole is saying the coaches are brilliant. He is that deluded. But he would bring in only incompetent coaches anyway
 
CloneMC16 said:
I agree with you, but I don't know with this club. Gary said he thinks Ole will get until the the end of the season. It wouldn't even shock me if he did. If it were my decision, he would be getting sacked tomorrow morning. If he isn't getting sacked, the club needs to bring in some new people to help out.
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Oh I can see that being the case. The club are cowards and will hide behind Ole for as long as possible. If we were a football club first and business second he would be gone before midnight.
 
NK86 said:
Yeah compare every incompetent manager to Fergie's initial years at United. That will do the trick.
Also, Fergie had just won the league with Aberdeen against Celtic and Rangers. So he had shown his quality. What exactly had Ole done in his 10 year managerial stint?
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SAF had to rebuild the club from top to bottom. He also had a big drink culture to deal with and had to make some hard decisions about getting rid of popular players. He was ruthless.
 
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