The former. Hopefully Conley and Gasol get picked up by good teams
NCAA College Football 2018/2019
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The former. Hopefully Conley and Gasol get picked up by good teams
Sounds about right.
That was a nailbiter though sometimes you need a little luck. It was sloppy but it’s good to see they have the fight in them. Should wake them up to not take any team for granted.
Which teams are overrated? And who should be where those teams are?
depends on how the polls come out tomorrow. but i expect lsu and florida will be
Inflated rankings. So the numbers are made up when it comes to the SEC? Rankings aren't just guess work they are calculated on the previous seasons conference, non con and especially bowl performances and scruitinized by the AP but more importantly the coaches in the game.
What they do not consider for the most part is player/staff turnover in each program which can affect teams in competitive conferences. However I do agree that the SEC gets more than its fair share but to say that its over rated is ridiculous. Every conference has its inconsistencies just look at MSU beating PSU...look at the Pac 12 almost every week. Anyway I expect Alabama to walk it again this season.
Of course they are overrated. Auburn was a top five team! Do you honestly think coaches who spend all weak putting in long hours preparing for games are going to watch a bunch of other games? At best they will watch espn highlights. Do you think dabo Swinney is watching USC v Colorado? Do you think Kyle Whittingham is watching Boston College v NC State? Come on son
I see what you're saying but I'm not entirely sure if the system is rigged in favor of SEC teams since they really have produced some of the best teams in the country in recent years. 10 national champs in the past 15 is a pretty good record, especially when you consider that it wasn't all Bama - Auburn, LSU, UF also winning titles, and two SEC teams making the finals last year.
How many non SEC teams started with high ranks and then got exposed? I remember a #5 Michigan losing to a D-II school several years back for example. And while Michigan has the same record as LSU, it’s LSU’s recent history of winning records that favors them compared to Michigan’s recent streak of mediocre seasons. Now if Michigan starts producing good records for a few years in a row, or any team from a big conference, then they’ll easily have favorable and high rankings.
Isn’t the point of the CFB committee to come up with more objective ratings that aren’t tainted by preseason preconceptions?
They probably don’t that well. But still.
They probably don’t that well. But still.
The real problem is not the rankings but rather the postseason system of only four teams. 16 team playoffs that include all conference champions plus other high ranked teams is the way to go.
It’s pretty much the BCS system with one extra game. Hardly that objective.
First off Im not your son chief secondly of course they dont have have to study every game to form an opinion of the top 25 teams but they sure as hell know who the top teams were at the end of the season. The AP on the other hand has the time to go over all the games to form their opinions. Your whole argument is flawed anyway theres over rated and under rated teams in all conferences
16 team playoffs is too many games I think.
I’d do P5 champions, best G5 champion and 2 at large teams.
That much is obvious. The SEC has always been of the highest quality because the south has always been a hotbed of football talent, which all the teams have benefited from.
Miami should have been SEC..same as FSU
I don't think it is rigged. I think they benefit from the popular perception that they are way ahead of the crowd in the preseason rankings. And then the preseason rankings are used to fuel the high rankings they receive throughout the season. And those get them into more NC games than they ought to. And that leads to more titles and its a self fulfilling prophecy.
Well lots of SEC and other teams get exposed. Its the main issue with preseason rankings. We don't know who is any good in August. Georgia started at 15 last year but were a lot better. Since Harbaugh arrived LSU has gone 9-3, 8-4, 9-4, 6-1 for a total of 32-12. Michigan has gone 10-3, 10-3, 8-5, 6-1 for a total of 34-12. Michigan actually as a better record in recent history. Going back further than that is far enough that both schools had different coaches and completely different sets of players. It's irrelevant. Hell, even 2015 and 2016 are irrelevant. Even last year is irrelevant. Football teams change so much year over year that they should be judged fresh each year. Georgia probably wouldn't have gotten smoked if they still had Roquan Smith, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Isaiah Wynn, and Lorenzo Carter. Rankings should be based on merit each year is my contention.
They kind of do if you propose we take these measures seriously. I'd value Carolina Red's opinion on Oregon or Wisconsin more than I would Nick Saban because I'd bet he has watched more of them than Saban has. The AP voters have more time to go over games but they don't usually. Hell, I watched 3 or 4 games yesterday which is probably more than most voters and I don't think I have a particularly good case for ranking a top 25 accurately. Alright Sonny?
Nah, I’d hate to see one conference overly stacked. It’s nice to have a good distribution of hood schools.
It would arguably only be too many games for the final four teams, who would potentially benefit from so much TV and sponsorship money, that schools would make exceptions. All about $$$ in the end. However, it may be best to eliminate the first two scheduled games and stick to conference play plus the non conference rivalries at the tail end. I doubt it would be difficult to determine the best 16 teams after 9 games.
Nice Freudian slip.
In the FBS, 16 teams is too many, but not because it is too many games. The number of games works just fine for FCS schools.
It is too many because at the FBS level the #16 seeded team is much, much farther away from the possibility to win the national title than at the FCS level. In the FCS, they seed the top 8, then have the match up next 16 schools in play-in pigtail games to see who plays the 8 seeded teams in the second round.
In 2014 and 2015, an unseeded school made the semifinals. In 2016, an unseeded team played for the championship. That kind of thing isnt something you’re going to see in the in the FBS.
I’d expand the FBS playoff to include the top 8, but go no farther than that.
It is too many because at the FBS level the #16 seeded team is much, much farther away from the possibility to win the national title than at the FCS level. In the FCS, they seed the top 8, then have the match up next 16 schools in play-in pigtail games to see who plays the 8 seeded teams in the second round.
In 2014 and 2015, an unseeded school made the semifinals. In 2016, an unseeded team played for the championship. That kind of thing isnt something you’re going to see in the in the FBS.
I’d expand the FBS playoff to include the top 8, but go no farther than that.
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8 team is very reasonable and is a substantial improvement on the current system. I just say 16 because it removes all of the controversy by giving a chance to every conceivable argument for playoff participation. Are you a conference champion? Come play. Do you happen to be ranked high without winning your conference? Come play. Another attraction to it is the amount of high profile games it will produce. Basically all the good bowls thrown into a real playoff.
Wow. Hes a great player too.
Right decision for him. Get your money while you can.
Bit more nervous about the run in now, Michigan's OL is no joke.
Bit more nervous about the run in now, Michigan's OL is no joke.
I still dont trust our offensive line. It hasnt been good since Jake Long and it was terrible in week 1 this year.
Preseason ranking should not exist. The first poll should not come out till first week in October.
This will never occur as it generates hype, headlines, and revenues.
Agreed on both fronts
Agreed. Early polls are generally not informative of mid and later season ones.
Michigan at MSU currently delayed due to weather?
Other interesting games (not fixtures):
Oklahoma @ TCU
North Carolina St @ Clemson
Miss St @ LSU
Oregon @ Washington St
Other interesting games (not fixtures):
Oklahoma @ TCU
North Carolina St @ Clemson
Miss St @ LSU
Oregon @ Washington St
Watching anything on fox is excruciating. Incredible amount of commercials.
Really happy to see Rencher get some snaps at RB for Clemson today. Awesome kid who battled through tons of adversity to get to where he is now.
Tennessee back to earth with a bump today. Alabama are untouchable
We've been completely abysmal on both ends of the ball.
I swear we have this kind of game every year. Last season it was Iowa.
sucks to suckfeck the 'The Ohio State University'
Boiler up!
Boiler up!
The "The" is redundant the way you're using it
If (and big if) we win out from here out we should be fine. I have my doubts but we'll see.
Hopefully ND loses and we have to have an OU/tOSU debate heading into the playoff.
ND not losing the other week was aggravating...