I saw Jordan play, I saw Lebron play. Jordan is a better player IMO but Jordan has nothing to do with Lebron getting to the conf. finals at age 38 as a seventh seed.This level or hype doesn't tend to flop.... but the sample size is utterly miniscule and theres a first for everything. I mean, I see Oden mentioned above, but he wasn't at this level, or even Duncan levels, I'd say Wemby is reasonably touching LeBron levels, but add in modern social media tax for that
I'm also coming as a non-American, but this seems Duncan, Crosby, McDavid, Manning, Luck give or take levels to me. Hysterical that this tiny sample size of ultra hyped players has been gifted to the same team twice in Colts and Spurs too.
Not necassarily, but yes, and a reason to pad their agenda and a pointless tidbit to the GOAT debate. Perfect clickbait. "Jordan would never!" (using very selective pro-Jordan arguments, because he did!)
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Yeah, pretty nuts when you think about it.
Yeah but clickbait warriors don’t care about context.
Not another 4-0!
Yeah, I guess that's true
It is, in retrospect. When you go back and look at those high school games that I mentioned before, it's crazy the kinds of things they were saying. I mean, anything could have happened to derail him. Marbury is a player whose pre-NBA, pre-college hype I remember very well. It wasn't on the Lebron level obviously but there was a lot of 'he could be this and he could be that' and he ended up being none of those things. Probably happens much more often than the Lebron situation.
AD would be disappointment due to number of injuries he has faced. If he ends up as good as KD or Hakeem it means he’s probably top 20 of all time and generational talent, that’s a very good outcome.
Has Nate Duncan passed on his assessment yet? I love his podcasts but don’t have the time to listen and many are behind paywall now. I always found it amusing how he would knock down any prospects though so he probably has Wembenyama’s realistic case as Dedmon.
The pre-draft hype for Shaq was off the charts, perhaps the first super-hyped draft selection. Ewing was a big hype but the Shaq hype was insane. Everyone knew he was going first overall but who would win the lottery was the big spectacle. Orlando won it with Charlotte second.
Well, we are going to have to hope Rui and Reaves keep improving, maybe one of them turns into an all-star caliber player, Vanderbilt learns to shoot 3s well enough to remain playable against teams like the Nuggets, and AD stays healthy for once in his career
Future is bright in LA!
Future is bright in LA!
Mind-numbingly inane takes by Broussard and company, who - I can safely assume - are more focused on getting people talking than anything else.
Olajuwan is one of the 10 greatest players ever and would have been ranked much higher had he been in better teams. He dragged a 6th team to a title, our playing Barkley, Malone, Robinson, and Shaq 4 consecutive seasons. He won FMVP and DPOY in the same season.
He anchored a Rockets defense that went back to back while also being the main offensive weapon.
If someone thinks that a prospect retiring with Hakeem's legacy is a "disappointment", that person is either ignorant, or he or she is going into "hot take" mode.
He got a Sports Illustrated cover as a high school student and his high-school game highlights were being shown on ESPN International, world-wide. It's hard to overestimate how much hype Lebron had behind him. Credit to him, he's lived up to it.
Can lakers even keep reaves, lakers can offer him max 50 mn 4 years, i can see a lot of teams offering him more than that.Well, we are going to have to hope Rui and Reaves keep improving, maybe one of them turns into an all-star caliber player, Vanderbilt learns to shoot 3s well enough to remain playable against teams like the Nuggets, and AD stays healthy for once in his career
Future is bright in LA!
Which doesn't make it realistic. I remember the hype around Lebron and it's amazing that he managed to fulfill it but the expectation was still totally daft.
the issue is this kid is getting LeBron level hype. From what i've seen, somewhat justified too. So yeah, while it is insane to be disappointed if the kid ends up being as good as Olajuwon, and batshit crazy to expect him to be the next LeBron, well, he really does appear to have that kind of potential, so...
We have bird rights so yes we can
Yeah, I agree
Lakers just got slapped at home and are down 3-0 now so can we please postpone this Wemby stuff please
Wemby is on topic though. If he matches the hype, he will be a Lakers one year after he signed his max extension.
I did forget about them
And it too him out of the game because it was his 4th foul with plenty of time left in the 3rd. Van Gundy was exfoliating the officials on commentary pointing out how decisions like that impact the game.
And he is absolutely right. It smacked of an instance where the league wanted to prolong a series. One of quite a few bad decisions that the Nuggets were on the wrong side of.
I'm not sweating it too much, Lakers have a pretty good habit at picking up 2nd Round/Undrafted guys, we have a decently placed pick this year in the 1st as well.
Max Christie has really come on a lot this year and I would expect him to make a bigger impact next year. If we can keep guys like Lonnie Walker and Rui around then I think we are well positioned next year.
The Murray narratives are amazing to watch. Murray is a very good player that can win you games but also disappear out of nowhere. But for some reason medias want to go to one extreme or the other, he is either the best thing since sliced bread or a forgettable player. The do the same thing with the likes of Middleton, Brown and to a lesser extent Towns.
To me it makes no sense because these players aren't even supposed to be polarizing.
To me it makes no sense because these players aren't even supposed to be polarizing.
Follow NBA through national media is such a pain, at least some making shit entertaining and bit funny but their farming of casuals is next level. On top whole big/small market and how its logical for them to focus more on big markets, they missing out on its potential of promoting good stories/players in small markets and that way increasing interest and following.
Murray in the playoffs looks closer to Devin Booker to me then any of the mentioned. He had some absolutely outstanding games in playoffs and not many that I remember where he disappeared. In regular season yes, but in playoffs he looks like a genuine star especially this season or the one that was played in the bubble.
My point was limited to the playoff but even then he was inconsistent against the Wolves, he was a bit more consistent against Phoenix and has been pretty good against the Lakers.
The Raptors title was amazing to see, whole city of Toronto turned out for that parade and then boom, KL fecks off for LA, not even the good LA team.
It's why I am happy that Giannis and Jokic are happy to be sticking it out with Milwaukee and Denver, makes their success mean so much more and it will be especially sweet for Jokic this year after the mainstreams agitating for a large market MVP.
No you don't. His contract ends after 2 years, and a player needs to spend 3 years with a team for them to get Bird's rights.
You do get early Bird's right which means you can match whatever offer he is offered, but the max that the Lakers can offer without matching is significantly lower (assuming he gets the max from free agency, it's a difference of nearly 40m over 4 years).
So he wants to stay and we're gonna match any offer he gets. So we're keeping him
At the moment the max would be 2.73m, right? 175% of his current contract.
No, the Lakers can offer up to 50m+ for a 4 year deal.
Other teams can offer him up to 90m+ over 4 years, which the Lakers can match. But matching that would feck their salary.
It’s basically Jeremy Lin situation all over, Knicks told him to get an offer and they’ll match it. But they didn’t once he got the max.
The Lakers aren’t matching if he’s taking a max, they even let Caruso walk when he just wanted 30m over 4 years.
I see. Thanks.
Do you guys agree with the idea that the Wolves offered more resistance to the Nuggets than the Suns or Lakers? I have seen that mentioned a few times but don't know how popular that idea is.
We are matching even if he gets the max. Have you seen our roster and contract situation? We can't afford to lose him. Rui either. They've proven themselves as quality win now players and our timeline is still tied to LeBron. If we lose them, who the feck do we replace them with? We're not in a position to think 5 years from now
Nah. All 3 Lakers games have been close, Suns won games 3&4, wolves got blown out in game 1 and were 3-0 down
You are taking liberties with the term close but I agree with the Suns being slightly better.
Am i? First 2 games came down to the final minute of the game and game 3 was still competitive until the final 2 minutes. Total margin of victory across all 3 games of 22 points
Would you say the same thing about the Wolves outside of the first game, the Wolves were close in the 4th in all games. As an illustration ESPN game flow show that:
https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401541196
https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401547679
In fact looking at all the teams, it does look like the Wolves are the team that has managed to stay close to Denver the most outside of that first game.
We’ll see, but Jeanie Buss is cheap and i don’t think they’ll pay to have this roster stick around.
This series makes DLo interview few years ago really funny watch now.