NBA 2022-2023

Sarni said:
I would take whichever of Miller or Scoot is available. You just take the best player available and figure it out later so even though Scoot overlaps with Dame, we would need to figure it out. Besides Dame will eventually fade into a less prominent role within the team and it won't be more than 3-4 years before it happens (maybe even sooner).

I think it's possible Hornets would take Miller but they won't really be able to trade down if they want him specifically because he won't drop below 3 and Blazers won't give up much to move for Scoot. They can't trade to no. 4 because Miller will not be available there anymore and the step down in quality to the next talent is significant (even though I like Thompson brothers).
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Yeah I figured.

If we can't trade up to 2nd, then I'd prefer to just trade it away outright, maybe package it for a current star. I don't want to add more kids who need 3 years to be NBA ready to the team. We already have too many. We have the 4th and 20th pick, Surely we could entice the Hornets with those two picks plus Eason or some other young talent not named Green, Jabari and Sengun? I'd put Sengun on the table too to be honest, even though I love him and he was our best player last season
 
MrMarcello said:
Is Jokic what Sabonis would have been had he been able to play in the NBA in his prime back in the late 80s?
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One of my top baskeball "what if's". I remember being terrified of Sabonis when the Lakers played the blazers. His injuries meant he could only go 25-30 min a night, but man he was such a unicorn back then.
 
I just the Spurs guy who was pumped up during the draft lottery. Everyone else looked depressed. :lol:
 
MrMarcello said:
Is Jokic what Sabonis would have been had he been able to play in the NBA in his prime back in the late 80s?
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No. Sabonis was a freak athlete too. Or so claim those who saw him anyways
 
giorno said:
No. Sabonis was a freak athlete too. Or so claim those who saw him anyways
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Yeah, I think alot of us who only saw him in the NBA remember him as the old guy who struggled to run up and down the court, not this guy:

 
The legend of Playoff Jimmy continues :drool: :drool: :drool:

I feel I say this every May, but Jimmy is who Paul George thinks he is
 
Watching Scoot and Brandon Miller's highlights from G-League / college makes me properly excited for the draft despite not getting no. 1. I think both are very high potential players (Scoot probably higher ceiling, Miller higher floor). Either of them with Simons and Sharpe could be such an explosive future group.

Then I actually realize that pick is going to be traded alongside probably all our young talent for OG Anunoby, Kyle Kuzma and maybe Jonathan Isaac or whatever and just feel deflated. :(
 
WI_Red said:
One of my top baskeball "what if's". I remember being terrified of Sabonis when the Lakers played the blazers. His injuries meant he could only go 25-30 min a night, but man he was such a unicorn back then.
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I think there was a story he couldn't even jump at that point.
 
Sarni said:
Watching Scoot and Brandon Miller's highlights from G-League / college makes me properly excited for the draft despite not getting no. 1. I think both are very high potential players (Scoot probably higher ceiling, Miller higher floor). Either of them with Simons and Sharpe could be such an explosive future group.

Then I actually realize that pick is going to be traded alongside probably all our young talent for OG Anunoby, Kyle Kuzma and maybe Jonathan Isaac or whatever and just feel deflated. :(
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I don’t think I can watch five years or so of blazers being utter shit. I also don’t see us getting back a huge haul for dame either.
 
kouroux said:
Jimmy is a ridiculous player. 6 steals and the last one was so beautiful with the elevation
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It was ridiculous that the Sixers let him go.
It was beyond stupid that they prioritised Harris and Simmons over him.
It's insane that that GM is still in charge of the team.
 
entropy said:
I don’t think I can watch five years or so of blazers being utter shit. I also don’t see us getting back a huge haul for dame either.
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Now that we are certain to not get Wembenyama, I'd be in favor of trading Dame to Miami for Herro, Adebayo and maybe some picks (if they would even want to attach any). A trade I had on mind was Dame + Grant (via S&T) for them two and 2 picks.

Miami are always keen on adding top tier talent and Dame fits their timeline perfectly. They are already in WCF this year (without Herro) and could very well go all the way, Butler probably has another 2-3 years in him and that's more or less what is going to be expected of Dame's timeline.

Then flip one of Herro / Simons for a young wing or picks, and it could be hell of a fun team to watch.

Being honest, it's not going to happen. We will re-sign Grant, trade all our young assets for those mighty veterans and suck for the next 2-3 years.
 
Sarni said:
Now that we are certain to not get Wembenyama, I'd be in favor of trading Dame to Miami for Herro, Adebayo and maybe some picks (if they would even want to attach any). A trade I had on mind was Dame + Grant (via S&T) for them two and 2 picks.

Miami are always keen on adding top tier talent and Dame fits their timeline perfectly. They are already in WCF this year (without Herro) and could very well go all the way, Butler probably has another 2-3 years in him and that's more or less what is going to be expected of Dame's timeline.

Then flip one of Herro / Simons for a young wing or picks, and it could be hell of a fun team to watch.

Being honest, it's not going to happen. We will re-sign Grant, trade all our young assets for those mighty veterans and suck for the next 2-3 years.
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I think if I am being honest, even if we get a young core we are still stuck with the same issue down the line, needing a superstar-caliber player to lead them but this won’t happen because nobody wants to come to a small market team like blazers. I am happy to let dame play it out in portland, and instead of trading the pick for og or siakam, we draft miller or scoot and have dame mentor them till he eventually retires.
 
Sarni said:
Watching Scoot and Brandon Miller's highlights from G-League / college makes me properly excited for the draft despite not getting no. 1. I think both are very high potential players (Scoot probably higher ceiling, Miller higher floor). Either of them with Simons and Sharpe could be such an explosive future group.

Then I actually realize that pick is going to be traded alongside probably all our young talent for OG Anunoby, Kyle Kuzma and maybe Jonathan Isaac or whatever and just feel deflated. :(
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Having slept on it and dived deep into Amen Thompson highlights, I’m coming around to him being a good pick up for us. He can’t shoot to save his life but almost everything else he does is off the charts good. Freak athlete, explosive as feck, very good creative passer similar to LaMelo Ball. He’s just can’t shoot :lol:

Are the Blazers in that weird shall we blow it up or keep going for a bit longer phase? With the Rockets it was sudden, we were sort of contenders one year and then fully into the rebuild the next. I wonder if it might be best to trade Dame now. You already have a great starting point for a rebuild. It sometimes takes years of tanking to get what you have in Sharpe, Anfernee and this year’s 3rd pick plus the haul you get for Dame. This could be an opportune time to start a rebuild.
 
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I almost feel a bit sorry for this kid if this is going to be the discourse around him for the next 15 years.

"if he's Hakeem Olajuwon, he's not met expectations." Hakeem is considered what, top 10-15 best player of all time? And they're saying Wemby's floor is Hakeem? Big yikes.

 
UweBein said:
It was ridiculous that the Sixers let him go.
It was beyond stupid that they prioritised Harris and Simmons over him.
It's insane that that GM is still in charge of the team.
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It's not what happened, they prioritzed the coach. It's not better but people keep saying that it's for various other players when the issue was with the coaching staff, he even explained that one of many issues was that he openly disagreed with the idea of totally changing the team dynamic in the playoff and put Simmons in a tough position even though it was for his(Butler) benefit. An other incident was with the lack of preparation during the season, where he essentially punked the coaching staff during a video session. He himself didn't want to stay with the 76ers.
 
Sarni said:
Now that we are certain to not get Wembenyama, I'd be in favor of trading Dame to Miami for Herro, Adebayo and maybe some picks (if they would even want to attach any). A trade I had on mind was Dame + Grant (via S&T) for them two and 2 picks.

Miami are always keen on adding top tier talent and Dame fits their timeline perfectly. They are already in WCF this year (without Herro) and could very well go all the way, Butler probably has another 2-3 years in him and that's more or less what is going to be expected of Dame's timeline.

Then flip one of Herro / Simons for a young wing or picks, and it could be hell of a fun team to watch.

Being honest, it's not going to happen. We will re-sign Grant, trade all our young assets for those mighty veterans and suck for the next 2-3 years.
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You will trade the pick for KAT plus Taurean prince and be happy with it. :angel:
 
JPRouve said:
You will trade the pick for KAT plus Taurean prince and be happy with it. :angel:
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That actually sounds plausible but I doubt Minnesota do that. If there's Scoot available then maybe as you need a playmaker, but would be pointless for Miller.
 
Sarni said:
That actually sounds plausible but I doubt Minnesota do that. If there's Scoot available then maybe as you need a playmaker, but would be pointless for Miller.
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It's interesting that you say that because I was convinced that you would think the opposite. Beyond needing a playmaker outside of Conley, McDaniels is likely going to get a +20m contract this summer and Edwards is getting his max contract, they also want to extend Naz Reid, so unless the owners want to be deep into the luxury tax, at least one big contract is leaving. And it seems easier to trade KAT this summer than next when his super max needs to be matched.

PS: The Wolves also need a scoring PF.
 
Sarni said:
Watching Scoot and Brandon Miller's highlights from G-League / college makes me properly excited for the draft despite not getting no. 1. I think both are very high potential players (Scoot probably higher ceiling, Miller higher floor). Either of them with Simons and Sharpe could be such an explosive future group.

Then I actually realize that pick is going to be traded alongside probably all our young talent for OG Anunoby, Kyle Kuzma and maybe Jonathan Isaac or whatever and just feel deflated. :(
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Sam Vecenie proposed something like Bridges and Claxton for pick 3 plus some kinda contract going to Brooklyn. Probably some other stuff on the margins to make it work but that was the general idea. I thought that one was interesting. I'd probably still just draft Scoot or Miller though.
 
ZDwyr said:
Sam Vecenie proposed something like Bridges and Claxton for pick 3 plus some kinda contract going to Brooklyn. Probably some other stuff on the margins to make it work but that was the general idea. I thought that one was interesting. I'd probably still just draft Scoot or Miller though.
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In that case you trade Lillard, right?
 
Miller belongs no where near an NBA court, and the fact he is facing no criminal charges is a perfect example of both the ridiculous gun culture and permissive attitudes towards star athletes (especially in college towns) in this country. If the Lakers drafted him I would immediately stop supporting them.
 
WI_Red said:
Miller belongs no where near an NBA court, and the fact he is facing no criminal charges is a perfect example of both the ridiculous gun culture and permissive attitudes towards star athletes (especially in college towns) in this country. If the Lakers drafted him I would immediately stop supporting them.
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I didn't know about it and don't understand the story or why he isn't in trouble.
 
JPRouve said:
I didn't know about it and don't understand the story or why he isn't in trouble.
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Long story short, a (now) ex teammate and his friend got into an argument late one night with some other guys and called Miller to have him drive over and bring them a gun. They then used the gun to murder a young woman as she sat in a car. Alabama did not suspend him (shocking) and the DA in he area filed no charges (even less shocking).
 
WI_Red said:
Long story short, a (now) ex teammate and his friend got into an argument late one night with some other guys and called Miller to have him drive over and bring them a gun. They then used the gun to murder a young woman as she sat in a car. Alabama did not suspend him (shocking) and the DA in he area filed no charges (even less shocking).
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I know, I just read about what he did but I don't understand how what he did hasn't lead to charges, his team expelling him or the NBA preventing him from entering the draft.
 
WI_Red said:
Long story short, a (now) ex teammate and his friend got into an argument late one night with some other guys and called Miller to have him drive over and bring them a gun. They then used the gun to murder a young woman as she sat in a car. Alabama did not suspend him (shocking) and the DA in he area filed no charges (even less shocking).
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Did Miller avoid getting in trouble because there’s a chance he didn’t know what was going to happen? You know American gun culture better than me, is it not normal to store guns for people you know? It seems in this case he was storing the gun for his teammate and the teammate told him a couple of days later that he wanted it back, so he drove over to drop it off? It’s his teammate, so is there a chance that he’s not thinking this guy, who is his friend and teammate at college, is about murder someone tonight?
 
WeePat said:
Did Miller avoid getting in trouble because there’s a chance he didn’t know what was going to happen? You know American gun culture better than me, is it not normal to store guns for people you know? It seems in this case he was storing the gun for his teammate and the teammate told him a couple of days later that he wanted it back, so he drove over to drop it off? It’s his teammate, so is there a chance that he’s not thinking this guy, who is his friend and teammate at college, is about murder someone tonight?
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I could be wrong but an individual can't store a firearm that isn't in his legal property? Also he transported a firearm that wasn't registered in his name which has to be illegal? @Carolina Red
 
JPRouve said:
I could be wrong but an individual can't store a firearm that isn't in his legal property? Also he transported a firearm that wasn't registered in his name which has to be illegal? @Carolina Red
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Fair enough, that does sound like sensible gun laws. So he should have been in trouble for being in possession of an unregistered gun and transporting it. Being an accessory to murder though?
 
WeePat said:
Fair enough, that does sound like sensible gun laws. So he should have been in trouble for being in possession of an unregistered gun and transporting it. Being an accessory to murder though?
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I'm only assuming, I don't know the laws in Alabama but from what I understand about a few other states like New York or Illinois you can do none of the things he did and that's ignoring the idea that the firearm was used to commit murder.

But US gun laws are all over the place, some states are strict and others aren't.
 
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