peanuthead
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This game shouldn't of been this close. AD, Bron and Dennis were awful for the most part, they only started playing in the second half. AD need to up his game for Sunday, The Suns are no joke.
Shite way to lose considering how well the Dubs played . Even on that play they played great defence and got hit by a desperation 3 after a travel by KCP . That Draymond moving screen ....
Always doesGood game but a bit too influenced by the reffing in the final quarter. The non-stop complaining likely helped.
That was worse than getting blown out. I just hope they can get over such a tough loss before Friday.
Suns 2 years ago had the worst record in the NBA, losing by double digits most nights. The team have no direction whatsoever before Jones came in. And I disagree with your assessment that Jones blew up his picks. I think he got exactly the player he wants and needs and that all should matter. You got to remember that before Jones came in, Suns were blowing top ten picks like there's no tomorrow. We wasted them on the likes on Josh Jackson and Dragan Bender, players who according to the draft experts should be perfect for the Suns and was selected with the right picks.The issue I have with executive of the year award is that teams are not built in the short term. Marks wouldn't be getting the award based purely on offseason moves but on where his team is compared to where they were 2-3 years ago which was basically complete shambles with no picks, no talent and no prospects for future.
I appreciate what Jones has done, especially picking up Payne and Craig and giving them a role, but Marks has come a longer way and had a tougher job. Also I still maintain Jones has blown two high picks in a row on Cam Johnson and Jalen Smith. Cam is not a bad player and he may have been the right fit but he was absolutely a reach at 11 and Suns should have got another asset by trading down. It's not a monumental mistake or anything and is more than offset by the fact that they traded down from 6 (Culver) and picked up Saric in the meantime in going for Johnson, and that the Zhaire + Miami pick for Bridges was a tremendous deal (it wasn't Jones though, or was it?).
ETOY is a pointless award anyway. This should be given with a clear mention 'look at the last x years' not just a season where you are virtually assessing these people based on 2-3 moves, it's not enough to assess anyone. Sometimes executives will literally get this because of one trade.
The game wouldn't be happening if Klay was fit.First NBA game I'm watching this season. Been good.
But can't help but thinking how it would be different if Klay was fit.
Suns 2 years ago had the worst record in the NBA, losing by double digits most nights. The team have no direction whatsoever before Jones came in. And I disagree with your assessment that Jones blew up his picks. I think he got exactly the player he wants and needs and that all should matter. You got to remember that before Jones came in, Suns were blowing top ten picks like there's no tomorrow. We wasted them on the likes on Josh Jackson and Dragan Bender, players who according to the draft experts should be perfect for the Suns and was selected with the right picks.
So thinking Cam Johnson would be available later is useless since we don't know what the other GMs think, and thinking a player worth to be picked later doesn't reflect the actual value of the player. Put it this way, if the Suns picks Domantas Sabonis with the 4th pick instead of Bender, and both players turns out exactly like they are now, would you actually think that Suns are reaching? Of course not.
And the Jalen Smith pick was done with the future in mind. It was clear that once Suns was going to be a contending team, he'll not going to get much minutes. Almost no contending team would give a rookie big minutes.
Marks job got way easier once Kyrie and Durant decided to go to the Nets once FA hits. This attract Harden to come and other veteran who're looking for a ring, willing to come and paid with vets minimum.
@charlton66 I wanted to include your post in as you also mentioned similar points but can't quote it
He contributed to his team winning against his opponent and that's the only thing that matters in a play-in game imo. Couldn't care less if he was outplayed by Curry for 48 minutes or not.Its already started, The talking heads and media in general have started blathering on about "the shot" and how James' achievements last night are already the best in play-in history. In a fairly average performance he threw up a prayer with the shot clock winding down and it went in. Lebron was not great, he was outplayed by Steph most of the night. But no, according to the fanbois (looking at you Nick Wright) it was better than Jayson Tatum's 50 for the Celtics and of course Steph's 37. For years, I've had to listen to media suck ups tell me how James was carrying teams against monumental odds. It was always Lebron against the Warriors. Now with the tables having been turned and he having far and away the better team its still somehow all about him. It gets old.
He did ok. Like you say, he was much improved second half, however, he scored 22 points for the game on 7-17 shooting. That's not bad, but nothing to write home about. Wright was almost giddy in his praise for Lebron. I don't know why I watched to be honest. I suppose I expected some even handed reporting with the Dubs getting a scintilla of praise. Didn't happen.Tbf James played really well in the second half specially considering how little he has played recently
That's one way to put it. You could also say he got a triple double and scored a very clutch 3 which sealed the W, I guess.He did ok. Like you say, he was much improved second half, however, he scored 22 points for the game on 7-17 shooting. That's not bad, but nothing to write home about. Wright was almost giddy in his praise for Lebron. I don't know why I watched to be honest. I suppose I expected some even handed reporting with the Dubs getting a scintilla of praise. Didn't happen.
That's in a nutshell. He contributed. You'd never know there was anybody else on his team. For years the Warriors achievements have been minimized because Lebron supposedly was playing against these tremendous odds, but the minute the shoe is on the other foot, the other team hardly gets a mention and as I said, it's still somehow all about him. I'm tired of it.He contributed to his team winning against his opponent and that's the only thing that matters in a play-in game imo. Couldn't care less if he was outplayed by Curry for 48 minutes or not.
And make no mistake, Curry has probably been praised a thousand times more than James for throwing up prayers which go in when the shot-clock is winding down.
Are you US based? Back here we don't get any NBA coverage unless you're actively following up yourself so I guess that's why I don't "get" these problems. Same goes for when Utd fans on here are disgruntled about the apparent Liverpool media love-in, no issues whatsoever with that over hereThat's in a nutshell. He contributed. You'd never know there was anybody else on his team. For years the Warriors achievements have been minimized because Lebron supposedly was playing against these tremendous odds, but the minute the shoe is on the other foot, the other team hardly gets a mention and as I said, it's still somehow all about him. I'm tired of it.
.....and I'm a bad loser.
Yes, I'm US based. Lived here for almost 40 years. What I don't get is that you seem like an OK lad. I can forgive being a Lakers fan but Liverpool? Where you dropped on your head as a child?Are you US based? Back here we don't get any NBA coverage unless you're actively following up yourself so I guess that's why I don't "get" these problems. Same goes for when Utd fans on here are disgruntled about the apparent Liverpool media love-in, no issues whatsoever with that over here
The Lakers had their 3-peat when I was a child, had to choose Liverpool instead of Utd if I didn't wanna be considered a total gloryhunter back in the daysYes, I'm US based. Lived here for almost 40 years. What I don't get is that you seem like an OK lad. I can forgive being a Lakers fan but Liverpool? Where you dropped on your head as a child?
Was he not?Lebron supposedly was playing against these tremendous odds,
I love Kwame Brown.
He was, but now he's not and it's still the same old story. He gets the credit as an underdog, he gets the credit when he has the better team.Was he not?
I'm glad somebody sympathizes with meits so tough being a warriors fan
The Heat are going to beat the 76ers in the second round. I just think they’re a better side, and I don’t believe the 76ers have the ball handlers to win a close play-off series. Butler and Bam are better than Simmons and Embiid too.
Just interesting you said "supposedly" which helps build the idea that he wasn't.He was, but now he's not and it's still the same old story. He gets the credit as an underdog, he gets the credit when he has the better team.
I'm glad somebody sympathizes with me
Different series need different gameplans.Also, why did the Lakers sign so many centers if the plan was always going to be AD at the 5?
Its already started, The talking heads and media in general have started blathering on about "the shot" and how James' achievements last night are already the best in play-in history. In a fairly average performance he threw up a prayer with the shot clock winding down and it went in. Lebron was not great, he was outplayed by Steph most of the night. But no, according to the fanbois (looking at you Nick Wright) it was better than Jayson Tatum's 50 for the Celtics and of course Steph's 37. For years, I've had to listen to media suck ups tell me how James was carrying teams against monumental odds. It was always Lebron against the Warriors. Now with the tables having been turned and he having far and away the better team its still somehow all about him. It gets old.
Well, thank you for those kind words. At least someone appreciates my efforts.Wow, this is a haterific post
I got you that extensive list of amazing NBA games and series, and this is how you repay me?I hope Booker destroys the Lakers next.