NBA 2016-17

Bubz27 said:
Lakers and Deng agree a 4 year deal, $72m deal.

Another 30+ year old on a 4 year deal. I'm confused.
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Yup. Was very good (although inconsistent) for Miami last year. I think Miami will miss him, although it will give Winslow the opportunity to shine. Having said that, I wouldn't re-sign him for $18m a year.

In other news, Joe Johnson signed with Utah (2-year, $22m).

And there are reports that the reason Wade is pissed and talking to other teams is because Miami offered him a contract worth $10m per year.
 
I'm happy with Conley, Parsons and a swingman (Gordon or Lee). Coupled with Gasol, our GnG vets, and great drafting and potential (JaMychal Green is a lynchpin in the making) we're tooled to compete and make noise in the west for a while. Maybe we'll make a conference final or 2, and then who knows what happens from there?

Either way, feck anything resembling "The Process". Must be soul destroying as a fan.
 
Bubz27 said:
Lakers and Deng agree a 4 year deal, $72m deal.

Another 30+ year old on a 4 year deal. I'm confused.
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As a player acquisition, it's not a great deal. But as a mentor and locker room guy, I dig it more than the Mozgov deal. Lakers need to prove to free agents that their young core is something to build around for playoff contention. It's not gonna happen anytime soon so they pay premium $$ for older vets. Bazemore was offered slightly more than the Atlanta deal, but to him being on a playoff contender and Georgia's lower state tax was worth more to him. Next CBA will be interesting though, owners will cry foul (even with all the tv money) and the PA will demand more. I'd like to see a measure where state taxes are factored into the cap consideration; teams in CA should have a higher market cap than say TX.
 
adexkola said:
I'm happy with Conley, Parsons and a swingman (Gordon or Lee). Coupled with Gasol, our GnG vets, and great drafting and potential (JaMychal Green is a lynchpin in the making) we're tooled to compete and make noise in the west for a while. Maybe we'll make a conference final or 2, and then who knows what happens from there?

Either way, feck anything resembling "The Process". Must be soul destroying as a fan.
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How the heck are you a Grizzlies fan I always thought you were from NYC?
 
ArmchairCritic said:
How the heck are you a Grizzlies fan I always thought you were from NYC?
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I wasn't really following the NBA until 2010/2011. Around that time I happened to watch the Grizzlies Spurs series. Read up on them, fell in love with their philosophy and story. Been a fan ever since.

Plus the Knicks were a garbage dump post the Houston/Sprewell/Starbury days. Now that I think of it, they're the reason I didn't follow the NBA much back then.
 
Kasper said:
This free agency window has been crazy so far. Those deals for Mozgov, Evan Turner or Solomon Hill:lol:. Imagine we'd had something like that in football, the caf would be in complete meltdown.
I'm surprisingly happy about the Hawks deal with Howard, expected something far worse. 3 years is a perfect time and 23,5/year is reasonable compared to other deals (I mean Conley 5 years for 153, wtf?). Not sure about the Bazemore deal tho, I like him but that's just too much, even with the new cap.

Mavericks look screwed, I wonder if they do a complete rebuild and Nowitzki goes to the Warriors?
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If I'm Cuban, I'm looking at tanking next season and having as much cap room as possible to make a run at 2-3 high profile FAs.
 
VanHaal'sRedArmy said:
As a player acquisition, it's not a great deal. But as a mentor and locker room guy, I dig it more than the Mozgov deal. Lakers need to prove to free agents that their young core is something to build around for playoff contention. It's not gonna happen anytime soon so they pay premium $$ for older vets. Bazemore was offered slightly more than the Atlanta deal, but to him being on a playoff contender and Georgia's lower state tax was worth more to him. Next CBA will be interesting though, owners will cry foul (even with all the tv money) and the PA will demand more. I'd like to see a measure where state taxes are factored into the cap consideration; teams in CA should have a higher market cap than say TX.
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Yeah most definitely, Deng is not a bad deal. Good for the locker room and good mentor for the young guys, especially Randle.

The length of these deals is the big issue I have. If we were smart, we'd have money for 2 max deals next summer. Now we don't.
 
Bubz27 said:
Yeah most definitely, Deng is not a bad deal. Good for the locker room and good mentor for the young guys, especially Randle.

The length of these deals is the big issue I have. If we were smart, we'd have money for 2 max deals next summer. Now we don't.
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I don't think signing a prime free agent star this season or the next is in the plans. Right now, it's about building around the young core of Clarkson, Russell, Randle, and Ingram. It's more about having cap flexibility when those guys become RFAs or UFAs. Of course with the cap increasing again, adding a marquee free agent isn't completely out of the question.
 
Upsetting that toronto will be unable to make any sort of splash in free agency with the cap space available and losing Biz. Really need to find a 2 way PF somehow or there no chance of repeating last year, let alone improving.
 
Biyombo at $72M for 4 years is poor business for Orlando. I wonder if they are going to move Vucevic now.
 
adexkola said:
I'm happy with Conley, Parsons and a swingman (Gordon or Lee). Coupled with Gasol, our GnG vets, and great drafting and potential (JaMychal Green is a lynchpin in the making) we're tooled to compete and make noise in the west for a while. Maybe we'll make a conference final or 2, and then who knows what happens from there?

Either way, feck anything resembling "The Process". Must be soul destroying as a fan.
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It's a good team but to get to conference finals there'll be some work to do although Spurs have an old team and Thunder could be dismantled soon, so who knows. In the East you'd probably be looking at becoming a top 2-3 team shortly.
 
Durant's decision expected to be in the next 24 hours. Celtics have become a genuine chance after signing Horford I think.
 
entropy said:
Harrison Barnes on max contract? FML
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Just read about that. Maybe he'll break out on a team built around/for him, maybe not.

The biggest issue about this offer is that Cuban has $40m in salaries committed to 16-17 and must spend $85m minimum due to CBA rules. So this forces his hand. He can't just sign a bunch of third tier guys to low offers, apparently, and tank for 16-17 then go all out next summer. Sucks, but this is how the PA and owners negotiate on salary spends so we don't get clubs like in MLB spending $25m while another spends $175m.
 
Btw, did anyone notice Cleveland has a $54m tab on the luxury tax?

Ouch. At least the owner can call himself a champion now but I wonder if he'll want to keep spending north of $50m in luxury tax each season. I guess it all depends on how much the owner is actually paying from his own kitty. I presume the club is making enough from other revenue streams to cover the tax.
 
How much will a legitimate superstar go for now? If Conley is over $30m a year.
 
Bubz27 said:
How much will a legitimate superstar go for now? If Conley is over $30m a year.
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35% of the cap, if its a 10+ year veteran i.e. LeBron. He's holding off though, and he'll get something even more insane when the cap goes up again next season.
 
Skills said:
35% of the cap, if its a 10+ year veteran i.e. LeBron. He's holding off though, and he'll get something even more insane when the cap goes up again next season.
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So we could/will see someone get a $33m a year deal, $160m deal.
 
With all this money flying around the fact that Al Jefferson signed for three years 30 million is baffling. Did they not have internet access when they were negotiating? Has he fired his agent yet?
 
syrian_scholes said:
If he goes there then R.I.P to the competetivity of the NBA.
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Eh, probably but these super teams never really hit the ground running as well as they look on paper. How are they going share the touches, what happens to their interior defence etc.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
Eh, probably but these super teams never really hit the ground running as well as they look on paper. How are they going share the touches, what happens to their interior defence etc.
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I don't think they'd find a problem with that being coached by Kerr.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
They just won 73 games and still did not win the title.
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I know, but can any team match them again after they add Durant? Green-Durant-Thompson-Curry, Just those 4 playing together is crazy, I mean they'll be upgrading Barnes with Kevin fecking Durant.
 
Durant will disrupt the team flow. Plus it won't be his team no matter what.

He's gonna resign or join the Celtics.
 
VanHaal'sRedArmy said:
If they get rid of Barnes and add KD, Warriors should be the favorites for next season.
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I'd say they'd still be favourites even without KD based on the past two seasons.

The main thing about KD leaving would be removing OKC as contenders in the west. If he goes to Boston it could make things much more competitive there. Still expecting him to stay though.
 
Sarni said:
Yep but it's quite evident that they'd have beaten Cavaliers with Durant instead of Barnes.
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I am just saying these "super teams" are never as dominant as we expect them to be. The big 3 Miami Heat lost in the finals twice.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
I am just saying these "super teams" are never as dominant as we expect them to be. The big 3 Miami Heat lost in the finals twice.
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Yep of course it's possible but with Curry, Thompson, Durant and Green you basically have a full blown dream team with very few weaknesses. You'll have to count on at least 2 of them having a stinker to have a chance against them, and even then you still have 2 incredible players against you. It'd be better than big three of Miami.
 
KD going to the Warriors does not mean anything unless Lil B lifts his curse or KD plays him one-on-one, let us remember that.
 
He'll stay at Oklahoma, 90% sure. 1+1 contract and then off if they don't make the finals next year.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
KD going to the Warriors does not mean anything unless Lil B lifts his curse or KD plays him one-on-one, let us remember that.
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Isn't Lil'B a GSW fan? Kd isn't going to the Celtics to play with Horford and Ish when he has the option to play alongside Green, Curry, and Thompson.

It's either GS or stay put. The way he left the court after WCF, makes me lean toward the Warriors.
 
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