Nations League 24/25 | November Internationals (Matchday 5-6)

We are a mess: can't defend, can't keep the ball, can't counter and don't create chances


Please leave Ståle in Austria

It feels "wonderful" to have 2 of the most underachieving managers for both your club and your country
 
We are a mess: can't defend, can't keep the ball, can't counter and don't create chances


Please leave Ståle in Austria
Is he the worst ever, relative to the players he has had available? Hareide worse?
 

Seems doable.

Seriously though, the way we’re falling apart right now. Clearly confidence is shot. We abandoned his general style of play, now we’re hoofing it, and we’re being found out. It’s pretty clear he’s not building jack shit at this point.
 
Who said that?

Someone said it in jest on here the other day after the last match hence the wink emotion.

In reality Norway need a decent manager in to get them organised as there's more than enough attacking talent to get to major finals. Sweden also been the same for years, only really Denmark who generally get the most out of their resources and so get to most tournaments.

Edit: Ralf Rangnick exactly the hire Norway needed and he was gettable after his Man. United stint. Austria got some excellent players but you wouldn't say their first 11 out tonight is that superior to Norway but they can defend, press and then take their chances.
 
Someone said it in jest on here the other day after the last match hence the wink emotion.

In reality Norway need a decent manager in to get them organised as there's more than enough attacking talent to get to major finals. Sweden also been the same for years, only really Denmark who generally get the most out of their resources and so get to most tournaments.

Edit: Ralf Rangnick exactly the hire Norway needed and he was gettable after his Man. United stint. Austria got some excellent players but you wouldn't say their first 11 out tonight is that superior to Norway but they can defend, press and then take their chances.

Ah. Thought maybe it was a misconstrual of people saying Ødegaard’s not generally been at his best for the NT.
 
Is he the worst ever, relative to the players he has had available? Hareide worse?

Hareide I think took over just as the 1990s generation were hitting their early 30s so was always going to be a dip in performances. Did have the likes of Carew and Arne Riise but it really wasn't a great squad.

Qualified Denmark to two tournaments out of two when he was there.

Solbakken worse as he's had Haaland and Odegaard making great impact at club level and there's other decent players dotted around the side (Sorloth, Ryerson etc) and also messed up a very qualifiable euros group. Hard to see why you'd just allow him to continue before the World cup group draw has even been made.
 
Coach doesn't matter, its the history of Norway, different coach, same shit, everytime.
 
Just checked the table and how are Austria in 2nd place with the same amount of points as Norway but a much better goal difference than them? What is the tie breaker after H2H if it isn’t GD?
 
Hareide I think took over just as the 1990s generation were hitting their early 30s so was always going to be a dip in performances. Did have the likes of Carew and Arne Riise but it really wasn't a great squad.

Qualified Denmark to two tournaments out of two when he was there.

Solbakken worse as he's had Haaland and Odegaard making great impact at club level and there's other decent players dotted around the side (Sorloth, Ryerson etc) and also messed up a very qualifiable euros group. Hard to see why you'd just allow him to continue before the World cup group draw has even been made.
Solbakken also been 4 years in the job and there has never been more questions than right now. At first Norway looked slightly better going more direct in Ødegaards absence, and today they have never looked worse without him. And they haven't really been very good with him, and that is not because he has underachieved himself. He has largely performed acceptable. Four years, best personell to pick from since Euro 2000 including one of the best midfielders in the world and a striker no one else has that has delivered basically a goal per game despite your teams underachievment. On their way to another qualifying campaign with no clear idea on how to set up the team. Shambles

I'd agree Hareide came closer with a worse team. And if the format were the same back then he'd definitely qualify.

Semb not getting to the World Cup in 2002, or being a part of a failed qualifying campaign for EURO 2004 (Don't really remember when Hareide came in but assume the qualifying were over since he saw out the season with Rosenborg) puts him in with a shout? He did allright in EURO 2000 allthough he should have done more but the team he had were arguably better than the squad now, and perhaps even better than the 98 squad. Riise, Bergdølmo, Berg, Lundekvam, Dan Eggen, Ronny Johnsen among others as defensive options. A Prem quality keeper in Myhre in goal. Midfield nothing to write home about but some names there. Bakke at Leeds, Svindal Larsen in Bundesliga, Leonardsen played in the Premier league for years. The Rosenborg midfield. Jo Tessem, Alfie Haaland all played in Premier League teams.
Very impressive attacking options for a small nation. Fit and hungry Carew, fit Solskjær, Tore Andre Flo, Steffen Iversen. Årst and Rushfeldt both banging in goals in Belgium and Austria. Remove the star factor of Haaland and Ødegaard and that squad is probably better.

So between two bauld frauds for worst of all time?
 
Just checked the table and how are Austria in 2nd place with the same amount of points as Norway but a much better goal difference than them? What is the tie breaker after H2H if it isn’t GD?
You're missing a 3rd team on the same amount of points. So there's a 3 way H2H.
 
Someone said it in jest on here the other day after the last match hence the wink emotion.

In reality Norway need a decent manager in to get them organised as there's more than enough attacking talent to get to major finals. Sweden also been the same for years, only really Denmark who generally get the most out of their resources and so get to most tournaments.

Edit: Ralf Rangnick exactly the hire Norway needed and he was gettable after his Man. United stint. Austria got some excellent players but you wouldn't say their first 11 out tonight is that superior to Norway but they can defend, press and then take their chances.
I think norway showed climpses of what they are capable of when they are playing with confidence but after the second goal they just collapsed. Also their left back had a nightmare...
To be honest I wasn't confident that we are going to win this one before the game.

With the right coach and system I think norway could really become a good team and regular at the euros and world cups. Have to sort out there defence though...
 
Just been reminded of one reason why I barely watch the game anymore.
 
Looked more like he was trying to stop the ball than pass it.
 
That, not in control so not a new situation rule is so daft. It rewards being shite. 100% goal for Germany.