My blood has gone red again.

Liverpool = more consistent, not better.

An on form Liverpool v an on form United would show the truth. When United play to their full potential, they are better, or at least as good as, anyone.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Because we're better.. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

How can you describe being boring as being better????
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>Liverpool = more consistent, not better.

An on form Liverpool v an on form United would show the truth. When United play to their full potential, they are better, or at least as good as, anyone.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

We're better..
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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How can you describe being boring as being better????</strong><hr></blockquote>

eh??

Whats hard to understand about the fact that we're better than you?

The fact that you don't find us entertaining doesn't change this fact..

Bizarre.. ;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

We're better..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Has something got stuck?

A reasoned argument should comprise of something more than repetition.

Davo = Lost in Space robot. It does not compute...... ;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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eh??

Whats hard to understand about the fact that we're better than you?

The fact that you don't find us entertaining doesn't change this fact..

Bizarre.. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Depends on your understanding of the word better.

I find entertaining football better than boring football.

Don't you?

Bizarre. ;)
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Has something got stuck?

A reasoned argument should comprise of something more than repetition.

Davo = Lost in Space robot. It does not compute...... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

A reasoned argument??

Being that we finished above you in the league, the accepted indicator of who is the better team...we even managed to give you 3 bootings in the process...

Whereas you changed the subject to which team plays the most exciting football..

Fantastic.. ;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

A reasoned argument??

Being that we finished above you in the league, the accepted indicator of who is the better team...we even managed to give you 3 bootings in the process...

Whereas you changed the subject to which team plays the most exciting football..

Fantastic.. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


I agreed you had a better defence. And to be fair, towards the end of the season, you showed signs of a decent attacking game as well.

We'll see how it pans out next season. If you play the kind of football you played in some of the games, and still keep a strong defence, I would go along with the theory that you are better. Depending on how we play of course.

There you go. A proper response.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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I agreed you had a better defence. And to be fair, towards the end of the season, you showed signs of a decent attacking game as well.

We'll see how it pans out next season. If you play the kind of football you played in some of the games, and still keep a strong defence, I would go along with the theory that you are better. Depending on how we play of course.

There you go. A proper response.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So we're currently better then?

;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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So we're currently better then?

;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

No. Because you're still boring.

By your reckoning then, Senegal are better than France. England and Sweden are better than Argentina. South Korea are better than Italy.....

Or would you agree that it was more a case of their results being better?
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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No. Because you're still boring.

By your reckoning then, Senegal are better than France. England and Sweden are better than Argentina. South Korea are better than Italy.....

Or would you agree that it was more a case of their results being better?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No

By my reckoning ourselves and Arsenal are better than you...due to finishing above you in a 38 game season..

Is anyone in the world better than you in your opinion?
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Is anyone in the world better than you in your opinion?</strong><hr></blockquote>

:rolleyes: Several million I should think.

Do you get personal when you're losing an argument?
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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:rolleyes: Several million I should think.

Do you get personal when you're losing an argument?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Do you lose the plot when you are?

"You" being Man Utd as opposed to you as an individual...

Who are your top 3 teams in order in England?
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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"You" being Man Utd as opposed to you as an individual...

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My mistake. Your reputation goes before you. ;)


Top 3 teams? On performance last season, I would say Arsenal, United, Liverpool. If Liverpool had continually played like the side that went on a goal rampage towards the end of the season, I would put them second, or possibly top.

For sheer entertainment, I would say United, Arsenal, Newcastle.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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My mistake. Your reputation goes before you. ;)


Top 3 teams? On performance last season, I would say Arsenal, United, Liverpool. If Liverpool had continually played like the side that went on a goal rampage towards the end of the season, I would put them second, or possibly top.

For sheer entertainment, I would say United, Arsenal, Newcastle.</strong><hr></blockquote>

"Apology" accepted.. ;)

The league table must be hard for you to understand then eh? What with us being above you and you being better than us....
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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"Apology" accepted.. ;)

The league table must be hard for you to understand then eh? What with us being above you and you being better than us....</strong><hr></blockquote>

No it's not difficult. Your results were better than ours. Your entertainment value wasn't.

Especially after the World Cup you have to admit that the better teams don't always win. ;)
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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No it's not difficult. Your results were better than ours. Your entertainment value wasn't.

Especially after the World Cup you have to admit that the better teams don't always win. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

You need to forget about the entertainment value...whilst you may prefer to watch a more attack minded team it has no relevance as to who is the actual better side...

The WC is slightly different from the league to the smaller number of matches

Plus Brazil won the WC, I reckon they were the best side in the tournament.... ;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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You need to forget about the entertainment value...whilst you may prefer to watch a more attack minded team it has no relevance as to who is the actual better side...

The WC is slightly different from the league to the smaller number of matches

Plus Brazil won the WC, I reckon they were the best side in the tournament.... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


But who is the best team in Europe?
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Your results were better than ours. </strong><hr></blockquote>

thus we're the better team.....surely?

results have to be the defining factor when measuring how good a team is.

Thats why the trophy gets handed to the team with the best results
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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But who is the best team in Europe?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hard to say..

You can only speculate as the top teams don't play each other in a league..

Unlike us and you, where its simple..
 
Originally posted by Knoxy:
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thus we're the better team.....surely?

results have to be the defining factor when measuring how good a team is.

Thats why the trophy gets handed to the team with the best results</strong><hr></blockquote>

I would agree that consistently, you were a better "team" than us. You performed better as a unit.

On the occasions that we did the same thing, I would say we were a better team than you.

Over the season, you were a better team - emphasis on the word team, as opposed to "side".

I think our football was more entertaining.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Hard to say..

You can only speculate as the top teams don't play each other in a league..

Unlike us and you, where its simple..</strong><hr></blockquote>

But surely, the team that wins the Champions League is the best team in Europe??
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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You were last season - who knows now..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Until you can prove otherwise we remain better..

As Arse remain champions..

You're third tho! Well done
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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But surely, the team that wins the Champions League is the best team in Europe??</strong><hr></blockquote>

Which part of my answer did you have trouble with?
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Which part of my answer did you have trouble with?</strong><hr></blockquote>

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You talk such shite!

Real Madrid won the competition with all the top teams in Europe in it, and they are not necessarily the best team in Europe? You move the goalposts as you go along clueless

Even if it difficult, surely you have got an opinion about what team is the best in Europe..?
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

You talk such shite!

Real Madrid won the competition with all the top teams in Europe in it, and they are not necessarily the best team in Europe? You move the goalposts as you go along clueless</strong><hr></blockquote>


They had an easy draw for both sets of group stages, thats the problem with such tournaments...its hard to judge who is the actual better team due to an "uneven playing surface"...

Unlike a league where's it clear..

Don't get in a strop sweetheart... ;)
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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But surely, the team that wins the Champions League is the best team in Europe??</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes, but the Champions league is a cup competition that relies heavily on performances over previous seasons.(eg the seeding) and also luck of the draw (eg each team doesn't play all of the others)
far more variables in the CL league than there are in a domestic league.
 
Originally posted by Knoxy:
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Yes, but the Champions league is a cup competition that relies heavily on performances over previous seasons.(eg the seeding) and also luck of the draw (eg each team doesn't play all of the others)
far more variables in the CL league than there are in a domestic league.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Please!

No reasoned logic or you'll be accused of "moving the goalposts" and being "clueless" as your answer doesn't fall in line with Midlandzzz pre-determined view...

;)
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Real Madrid won the competition with all the top teams in Europe in it</strong><hr></blockquote>

What about Valencia? are they not a top team?
 
I think what Davo is really trying to say is that he thought from 1993-2001, Manchester United were a better team than Liverpool.

But I doubt he said so at the time somehow. :)
 
Originally posted by Knoxy:
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What about Valencia? are they not a top team?</strong><hr></blockquote>

They're clearly not as good as Real..

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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They had an easy draw for both sets of group stages, thats the problem with such tournaments...its hard to judge who is the actual better team due to an "uneven playing surface"...

Unlike a league where's it clear..

Don't get in a strop sweetheart... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Far from in a strop - just laughing my head off the way things are simple when it suits your argument, and REALLY dufficult when it doesn't <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Real had to get past teams like Roma, Loco Moscow, Anderlecht, Panathinaikos, Sparta Prague, Porto, Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Bayer Leverkusen to win the trophy. If you think that's easy, I wonder what you make of some of Liverpool's run and opponents when you won the European cup - and undoubtedly thought they were the best team in Europe.. ;)
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>I think what Davo is really trying to say is that he thought from 1993-2001, Manchester United were a better team than Liverpool.

But I doubt he said so at the time somehow. :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree, you were..

And I admitted it..unlike you seem to be able to do.. ;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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I agree, you were..

And I admitted it..unlike you seem to be able to do.. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Ahh, but I have. I said you were the better "team" over the season. I also said that if you played the same kind of football that we saw on a few occasions, I would have put you top of my top three teams in England.

Pay attention. :)
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Far from in a strop - just laughing my head off the way things are simple when it suits your argument, and REALLY dufficult when it doesn't <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Real had to get past teams like Roma, Loco Moscow, Anderlecht, Panathinaikos, Sparta Prague, Porto, Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Bayer Leverkusen to win the trophy. If you think that's easy, I wonder what you make of some of Liverpool's run and opponents when you won the European cup - and undoubtedly thought they were the best team in Europe.. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


Are you really sat there laughing your head off? You sound really fun...

Did I say that Real had it easy? No, you're making that up...they had easy groups in comparison to other teams tho....once more, making the CL a less reliable source of a team's ability than a league

Your brilliant argument that Real are the best team in Europe when they finished third in the Spanish league is slightly flawed... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Ahh, but I have. I said you were the better "team" over the season. I also said that if you played the same kind of football that we saw on a few occasions, I would have put you top of my top three teams in England.

Pay attention. :) </strong><hr></blockquote>


If we had played the football you mention more often and achieved the same results to put us on top would be daft...

You really need to differentiate between entertaining football and successful football...