I really don't think I believe that we're just limited to 100m because there are no players we can guarantee selling, and we wouldn't be bidding 55m for mount if we genuinely only had another 45m to spend without sales
MUFC are looking at a budget of about £100m, due to FFP (The Athletic)
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Slap on the wrists and a harshly written letter to your mum
I'm with this. Just buy Kim, Onana, Kane, Mount and Rabiot and take whatever fine we get from Uefa after already building a proper team. It's what so many other clubs do.
Would be great if we could sell some players like Martial or Bailly to Saudi Arabian clubs like what Chelsea and Wolves are doing.
This did not age well, by the way
Our transfer business is limited by our lack of executive pedigree.
Chelsea already shown us the way how it should be done. I don't think FFP will be an issue for us looking at Chelsea's crazy spending.
However, we need the new owner coming in fast. Glazers is not going to do anything for our long term benefits.
However, we need the new owner coming in fast. Glazers is not going to do anything for our long term benefits.
Sold Iqbal for 1m.. FFP limit up by ~5m 
What do you mean?
Guess its about us not having top tier people in charge of running the club/transfers..
Inexperienced + not enough contacts/relations with other clubs
I don’t think that’s our number 1 issue this summer. The fact that the club sale is unresolved is a bigger issue
What does this add to our budget if all comes to fruition?
iqbal - 1m
Fred - 20m
Donny - 15m
Henderson- 25m
Tuanzebe - released
Jones - released
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iqbal - 1m
Fred - 20m
Donny - 15m
Henderson- 25m
Tuanzebe - released
Jones - released
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I don't understand how anyone here can think we'd get any money for Donny. I don't mean this to sound as harsh as it's going to, but based on how he has played and his contributions in the last few years he is worthless. He'll leave on a free eventually. Same for the likes of Eric Bailly.
Sure, that shouldn't affect our ability to sell though. And the first sale we have is... a decently promising young player for what amounts to nothing. Nice!
Also if Ten Hag is making these calls then he's a fecking idiot for not allowing Iqbal to go to the U20 World Cup.
Up to 101 mln thanks to Iqbal
Saudi will swoop in and ‘save’ clubs with FFP issues. They’ll take players from big clubs for small beer and free up FFP budgets. Chelsea already at it. United will do it too.
Hard to say. You'd imagine one summer of transfer activity wouldn't move the dial too much in terms of club valuation when a lot of it is going to based off of future cash flow assumptions, which would be a bit subjective. But possibly.
Dividends
Okay they can have Fred for 40m, Maguire for 50m, Van de Beek for 30m, Telles for 15m and Bailly for 20
I don't think the Saudis and the Qataris have the best relations
Fred seems like the only one that's possible here.
Donny we'll almost have to beg teams to take off of us. Hendo's injury really screwed us because last season was his opportunity to put himself in the shop window while out on loan. His season seems like a blur now and they did much better with Navas filling in for him. We might need to loan him again.
I think the two players that are realistic sales in addition to Fred to get us a decent amount are Maguire and Mctominay. Whether they want to go is a potential hurdle and these are also two HG players. I think we can get £75m for the three of them.
We did in reverse, we got Ighalo for a while
This post is just based on reports from today
Don't agree with the bolded. His loan went reasonably well and it has been widely reported Forest want to sign him permanently this summer, just the issue of haggling over the valuation and our own reluctance to sanction anything with DDG not signed. Forest don't have a starting keeper, Navas has no intention of joining full time and an experienced PL keeper is not rocking up at the City ground for less than 20M so we can expect at least that although we will probably end up having to accept a bunch of clauses to get anywhere near the valuation we want.
I could see Ajax buying him back. They did with Blind. Or a German team maybe.
Saudi is totally different.
100m won’t even get us 1 player at this rate. Prices nowadays are ridiculous. I feel like it’s just us that get mugged of though, the scousers, city and even Chelsea get decent players for decent amount.
Prices are indeed ridiculous these days. And of course wages are another matter.
If it's true -- and no one here would swear on their mother's grave that it is true -- that we only have 100m to spend on transfers, it's as clear as clear that we need we need to prioritize a proper striker above all else. If we can bring Kane in over the line at 100m (yes, I understand the miserable existence of Levy) then we have to bring in Kane and make do with who we have at the 6 and 8 positions to get through the season while we look to build up our warchest for the 2024 summer transfer window.
We could instead go with budget options to strengthen our depth and I'm not necessarily opposed to that, but if somehow by the grace of the gods to whom we have sacrificed enough over the last decade of mediocrity are able to bring in Kane, we'd be out of our fukking minds to say no we're not having that, we need a backup to Casemiro and Mount to step in for Eriksen.
If it's true -- and no one here would swear on their mother's grave that it is true -- that we only have 100m to spend on transfers, it's as clear as clear that we need we need to prioritize a proper striker above all else. If we can bring Kane in over the line at 100m (yes, I understand the miserable existence of Levy) then we have to bring in Kane and make do with who we have at the 6 and 8 positions to get through the season while we look to build up our warchest for the 2024 summer transfer window.
We could instead go with budget options to strengthen our depth and I'm not necessarily opposed to that, but if somehow by the grace of the gods to whom we have sacrificed enough over the last decade of mediocrity are able to bring in Kane, we'd be out of our fukking minds to say no we're not having that, we need a backup to Casemiro and Mount to step in for Eriksen.
with our ability to seal deals 100mil transfer budget could be way to much. A grand total of zero could be enough
At the end of every season posters give a list of transfer fees we could recieve for players unwanted by us. Always think its a waste of time. For so long now we have been absolutely diabolical at selling and selling well.
I would even go far as to say the likes of maguire and martial could end up staying. Nobody's seriously interested in our players yet. We've got a plethora of players to get rid of.
I would even go far as to say the likes of maguire and martial could end up staying. Nobody's seriously interested in our players yet. We've got a plethora of players to get rid of.
Maguire and Martial are pretty much nailed on to stay for me. I imagine we will only get rid of Martial when his contract runs out one day.
I actually think our starting lineup will be pretty much unchanged in the first game next season. Maybe have a new backup keeper and get Vlahovic or something in a panic buy right at the end of the window for an extortionate price.
If we amortise these on new player sales on 4/5 year contracts Henderson and IQbal Will offer £26m on players who cost nothing so true net profit. Multiply by 5 £130m
Fred would just be wages as we paid £47/50m for him on a 5+1 contract we renewed signed in 2018 this year is 5 years so one left. We agreed to pay his transfer fee over 5 years so he’s paid for but he will get paid a leaving fee/bonus if Fulham can’t pay his £120k wages. I doubt we’ll get more than £15m but that would be 15m cost set against original transfer value and payments made for the sale, we can not use this to amortise new player sales this is not a cost profit, Saving only his wages on the accounts at £120k or £6m per year
Donny is different we still owe money on him, 2 years left on contract at £45m over a 5 year contract, so we probably still owe £18m we might want a transfer fee of £18m to clear future payments.
We may have paid all cash upfront knowing Ajax which would change things but I highly doubt that the way the Glazers have operated
Tuanzebe snd Jones offer no transfer fees but we save probably £150k on wages.
Let’s say we increase our transfer budget safely by £100-125m but also set aside for the wages line in the accounts a figure of £500k per week or £25m would now be freed up, remember we need to keep all the club wages, financials, Agent and signing on fees at 90% of our gross revenue.
Iqbal 5k per week, Fred 120k per week, Henderson £100k per week, A Tuanzebe £50k per week, P Jones 100k per week, DVB £125k per week. Add Ronaldo £500k and De Gea potentially leaving at £375k per week and you now have nearly £70m per year freed up. Last recorded wage bill 21/22 was £380m, way too high on £600m revenue, especially since the club lost £115m as well. This year will be more like £325m because of Europa league rule but turnover will also reduce to no CL money, probably £545m.
We’ve already spent £75k per week to upgrade Diego Dalot’s New contract from £25k to £100k, Shaw new contract was Stated at £200k so a £20k per week increase, Lycha is being upgraded by £80k per week from £120-£200k, Garnaucho new £100k per week so £95k upgrade and then Marcus upgrade from £200k to £375k so £175k upgrade. That’s £23m already spent from £70m freed up and that’s providing you sell all the players you listed.
I’m guessing the £120m would be £240-250m after selling the players you listed and we would have £47m per year left over for wages;
GK - D Costa £55m wages £7m per year
CB - A Desali £45m wages £5m per year
CM - A Rabiot Free wages £15m per year
AM - M Mount £60m Wages £12 per year
CFW - R Hojlund 55m Wages £6m per year
Total Spent £215m wages £45m per year
(What’s left over for a second really cheap GK and wages and potentially a marquee Loan only with a loan fee of less than £10m )
The list makes total sense now United would have to sell S Mctominay in addition to truly make a marquee signing like Kane, Osimhen or Neymar?
Massively massively disagree except on Martial
Most definitely think Maguire leaves to seek regular game time ahead of the Euros and with DDG looking nailed on to go we'll sign a starting GK because Henderson is being shipped back to Forest too
We're about to bid £50m for Mount which should get the deal done because of his contract situation and Chelsea's need to sell
We'll sign a different ST not Vlahovic who's wages are excessive
Sounds like we still have the budget for several smart signings. Then we can look at the likes of Kane etc if McTominay is sold. Hopefully we also add to the budget by selling Williams, telles, maguire and elanga. Obviously 2 of those are homegrown so better financially for us
Would yous take 0 summer transfers but Glazers are out the door?
If we get Qatar money, I would be all for this. Worst case scenario would be one season outside of UCL or some few point deduction, but City cheated more than we need to get a top squad, and didn’t get neither. So it would likely be no real punishment.
Plus, whatever punishment we got for a minor violation, they would have to hand out multiples of that to City for numerous violations over a long time period
We really could spend £350-400m just like the article which was leaked a few weeks ago quoted however only if SJ and Qatar get this sale sorted asap.
We must sell Henderson, S Mctominay,
A Elanga, B Williams all players that are sold for net profit in the accounts.
Qatar needs united as much as we need them, it’s important to remember that the only reason Newcastle can’t spend £300-400m is because their turnover restricts it, It’s also important to note that if City wanted to spend £300-400m with their mature business plan now taking full bloom they could easily spend it and we’ve seen that Uefa paper thin threats mean very little to the Abu Dhabi group. These next two windows are vital for United reclaiming ground on Europes finest clubs.