I wouldn't put him at Carrick's level just yet IMO.
He's a lot more refined and shows more promise than a 25 year old Carrick did though.
He's a lot more refined and shows more promise than a 25 year old Carrick did though.
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The same applies for Carrick in other departments of the game, which Schneiderlin does better. Don't want to take anything away from Carrick, just saying.
My thoughts exactly.
I was really impressed with Schneiderlin. Good positioning, making a lot of successful tackles and showed good vision and passing ability. His goal was the icing on the cake. Fantastic header with great weight.
Schweinsteiger did ok, but wasn't anything near to his best yet. People are excited we signed him and there is every reason to be, but there is a lot more to come from him.
Madness
some people really do their best to sound like fools here. Carrick will probably be rated higher than anyone 10 years after his retirement. This is really getting silly
Schneiderlin has pace strength and mobility on his side. A midfielder isn't just rated on his passing.
His passing is excellent, but still not as exquisite as Carrick's, even when Carrick was his age. Though on the other hand, he's got a lot more grit and proactivity compared to a younger, or even current Carrick.
Carrick at 25 was someone who could control games. Don't think that is Schneiderlin's forte. Different type of midfielders.
People spent years on here moaning that Carrick never took control of games, and would always let Scholes run the game, and just play second fiddle to him. Don't get me wrong, Carrick has always been a fantastic player, and I used to defend him on here for years, but lets no rewrite history and make Carrick of 2006 to be the same as now, because he isn't. He's only become more of a leader and controller as he's got older and more experienced (and also once Scholes retired).
I would expect the same thing with Morgan. He's got a very good passing range, but it will take a few years of learning and experience before he can control games in the way Carrick can now. I actually think they're very similar signings in terms of age, ability, potential etc etc
Carrick was always a better passer but he's not close to Morgan in terms of athleticism and tackling.
When you have Scholes by your side, you obviously play second fiddle. Much like Busquets and Xavi. Busquets had all the quality to control games even at that age, but he let Xavi take control of the tempo of games because Xavi was better.
Regarding his squad number, are we expecting him to take #6 from Evans?
That would be better, too many high numbers for me.
Darmian taking #2 from Rafael
Schweinsteiger will probably want to succeed Cleverley with #23
Depay will be an interesting choice, I've seen 14 mentioned but that will depend on Hernandez I'd imagine.
Not sure why Carrick and Schneiderlin are being compared, I think it's obvious that it's Carrick and Schweinsteiger that will compete for the #6 role with Schneiderlin alongside them to add athleticism, speed and energy.
Exactly. Which also makes sense given their age and injury records too.
Disagree. If Schweinsteiger is healthy, I think it's:
Schweinsteiger-Herrera
--Carrick/Schneiderlin--
as the midfield 3. In a 2, probably one of Herrera or Schweinsteiger gets dropped for Schneiderlin's qualities you mention above.
Schweinsteiger doesn't have the legs to play box to box anymore, putting him and Carrick in the same team causes the same problems Bayern had with him and Alonso. They are both in the Pirlo phase where their strength is to sit deep and control games with their passing, Ander and Schneiderlin provide the energy and hustle in front of them, like Vidal and Marchisio.
Agree with this.
Indeed. Playing Carrick and Bastian in the same team would be suicidal against a high tempo team
Yeah, I agree. Physically Morgan trumps a young Carrick too. Despite being 6'1 Carrick always seemed a bit stringy and unable to exert himself physically.
It could absolutely go that way, but I don't think Schneiderlin is quite the box to box force or clever short passer than those Juve CMs are, so I think we'd be best off with a more asymmetrical formation with Schweinsteiger a bit deeper and Herrera really looking to get forward as often as possible.
Memphis-Rooney--------
-------------Herrera-Mata
--Schweinsteiger---------
--------Schneiderlin------
Gets everyone on the field in their best position except for Mata, and he has 2 targets ahead + Herrera and a fullback on his right as options for his through passes, so should be okay.
Not sure it's Van Gaal's way, but I think it would prove the best solution over the course of the season for us, assuming Di Maria does indeed leave. If our fullbacks want to go forward it's good to have Schneiderlin's athleticism to cover for them (or the CBs when they go wide to do so) and Schweinsteiger is smart enough to know when to push forward and make it a normal 4-3-3 with him pushed up a bit higher and to the left and when he needs to be very central.
I don't see LvG liking that lopsided formation or Schweinsteiger as the furthest forward CM personally. If he wants to go a different route I'd imagine a 4-2-3-1.
------------Rooney
Memphis--Herrera---Pedro
---Scweini--Schneiderlin
Man Utd 3:1 San Jose Earthquakes
Not his best half that one..
Him and Carrick won't play together in a 2 once the season starts. His cross field passing is brilliant however.
Does well to win the ball on corners but switched off badly for the goal. Did not get on the ball as often as Carrick looked to be playing much further forward than him.
Got turned for the goal but always showing for the ball and some neat passing and won the ball back a couple times early on. I also think he played a nice first time pass on the build up to our first goal but have to double check.
Got completely sold for the goal, but some of his long passes were nice.
well hes not a left back 
Schneiderlin will be competing with Blind for the defensive role in midfield. I dont think in an ideal situation Van Gaal wants to play Schweinstiger and Carrick. It'll be one of the two if Herrera is fit.
Have I missed something?
No, I was just hypotheticalizing.
I think he was fine apart from getting turned a bit easily for the goal.
Think his passing and touch wasn't quite as good as it was on Friday.. Nothing alarming, just wasn't as good as the rest in that half
I was kind of impressed by his passing, tbh. Granted, he didn't always find a teammate, but that was more down to a lack of concentration than anything else. His technique and weight of pass was very good... he was just a little sloppy with his decision making. He'll get better when we start the season.
Must of watched a different game to most people as I really thought he was the pick of the midfielders today. Granted he turned off for the goal but he was a threat at set pieces and I thought his passing was forward thinking and incisive.
Big boots to fill
He may not be at Carrick level yet but he covers more inches of pitch and he's faster. Lack of mobility was one of United's biggest problems last year. With more and more teams defending with 10 men against us we need to make sure that the ball move quickly while making sure we can't get knocked down by quick counters. Schneiderlin can do that. I wonder if Carrick still can
Sell him already. Pointless signing!!!
Disappointed in him today. Poor in possession and looked lethargic. Probably nervous because of the opposition.
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