he was the man of the match, he deserves praise... I think we've seen this before with Herrera ie let's not get carried away he has just one good game etc... and he turned out to be the most important player for now and for the future. It's just pure quality with Schneiderlin, you can already see he will be massive for us, actually you could see it before the transfer happened, because he is exactly what we lacked and needed
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I quoted you saying they were the best partnership in the league. I asked how you'd possibly come to that conclusion. You didn't give an answer relevant to it really, just that they'd played well together against some good teams, teams that didn't include the team who do have comfortably the best partnership in the league, ergo, how can they possibly be the best partnership in the league? Unless you genuinely believe them better than Cesc and Matic?
As good as he was, he wasn't as good as Schweini. . Bastian absolutely bossed it in the second whereas Schneiderlin was bundled over a few times and passed back a few times. His switches of play were tremendous though. .
I really do wonder whether I'm watching/watched a different game to the one some people have been watching on here.
so fair enough, you are saying the most consistent partnership, and I think the partnership that played better the few times that they could, and imo carrick fellaini herrera played better on those 5-6 occassions than any other midefield 2 or 3 all season, but again maybe you think different on that point too. I think there's plenty of evidence to suggest this but we are so far apart that we can move on I think
Southampton didnt let him go last summer as they lost 4 first teamers and Calum chambers. Spurs were interested in him during last summer window. He tweeted rather valdesesquely and later made up with the team and was reportedly allowed to leave this season. Arsenal were interested as well but didn't feel the need to pay £20m+ for a player they felt they didn't need
I understood you were suggesting the Fabregas/Matic partnership (which is a tad overrated imo, and hasn't regularly worked well in big games unless I'm mistaken), but you have to admit you took a pretty convaluted way to make your point!
Glad with Morgan's debut, he was really brilliant in those first 45 minutes and even though it's only pre season, Club America were no pushovers in midfield and he had to get stuck in. He showed energy and bite, and brilliant range of passing (a couple of very incisive forward passes to Mata could've turned out into very good attacking opportunities had Juan not still been on holiday). Agree with those saying Carrick is replaced and so on is going overboard, Carrick has been the best CM (for me) over the past couple of seasons, and we were really hampered when he was injured. Lots of options in any case for VG, suited both to the bigger and smaller games, looking forward to see how our midfield performs over the year.
I think that is why he has bought Schweinsteiger, so that he can rotate with Carrick. Then neither player is overused and will be available at the business end of the season. Carrick is still a very good player, but if he is played too much injuries might happen.
Definitely, and we he does get injured, before we had cover, we were royally fecked!
This is nice, in our CM options we have a mixture of experience, flair, technique, players able to control a game and slow the tempo, more box to box... We were a bit one dimensional in CM last year and it actually worked better in big matches, so it's nice to have a vast array of options there to approach games differently.Very impressed with Morgan. I think you can just see he will be absolutely huge for us. Him and Herrera can have a great blend I feel.
For me it's got to be Herrera&Schneiderlin+1 behind them. Their energy and tenacity in the oponents half with Carrick or BFS behind them is the perfect blend.
You're right, you and Henderson were the best.
I was impressed with him last night,
used the ball better than i expected, was a good debut and im looking forward to seeing more of him
used the ball better than i expected, was a good debut and im looking forward to seeing more of him
Imagine him playing on a pitch where players on his own team and himself arent slipping over cos of the conditions.
And we now have him, Herrera, Carrick, Basti as choices. So this is what its like to have a midfield.
And we now have him, Herrera, Carrick, Basti as choices. So this is what its like to have a midfield.
Fellaini is going to struggle to get a game in central midfield this season.
Schweini looked a class above even being 10 kg overweight. Schneiderlin is a nice combatant who can spray the occasional Rooney cross ball I guess.
Haha, me too.
He was really good last night but I also thought Bastian looked different class in the second half. I'm looking forward to seeing them play together. We've got some good midfield options now.
He provides the legs in midfield. It's amazing how much he gets in the way of, we have definitely lacked a player like him!
He provides something our midfield has missed for absolutely years and years. With his abilities (coupled with Herrera) it really should free up Carrick/Basti to control matches. A bit like what Juve were doing with Pirlo (and what we should have done with Scholes imho)
Me too. I thought Schweinsteiger looked a tad rusty personally but it's understandable as he's done a weeks less training (and two weeks less then Schneiderlin).
I just hope we see a 3 man midfield next match.
I think pretty much all of them played well individually (carrick started slow but he had some great forward passes and improved as the game wore on imo).
But none of them really ... all of them looked a bit unfamiliar with each other. First match together and playing in a 2 man midfield so hard to look good though.
Hererra, schweinsteiger looked the better combination of the two to me.
I'd probably be looking to get carrick, herrera into a 3 man midfield initially though to provide a bit of continuity from last season while other positions settle a bit.
I think pretty much all of them played well individually (carrick started slow but he had some great forward passes and improved as the game wore on imo).
But none of them really ... all of them looked a bit unfamiliar with each other. First match together and playing in a 2 man midfield so hard to look good though.
Hererra, schweinsteiger looked the better combination of the two to me.
I'd probably be looking to get carrick, herrera into a 3 man midfield initially though to provide a bit of continuity from last season while other positions settle a bit.
Just watched his highlights of the match, very impressed.
Would love to see him with Herrera and Bastian fecking Schweinsteiger as a midfield trio. Lots of energy and skill in that midfield
Ffs
Schweini is much the better footballer. Good enough addition though and has age on his side.
It looked like he was playing with a bit more freedom than he did under Koeman (understandably, with this being preseason). If Schneiderlin's natural passing game is more like that, I think we could have a top player on our hands.
Can't wait to see him and Schweinsteiger on the pitch together. Should complement each other nicely.
Ha ha, nice response.
From SaintsWeb. FFS what can one season in 7th place and one season in 4th place do. Trasfer from Southampton to Manchester is sideways move now
Schneiderlin and Herrera with Carrick or Steiger behind will be a brilliant midfield. The front 2 can press all day long, and have the legs to get box to box no problem. Allowing Steiger or Carrick to to pick out the passes, it will work lovely.
yeah but apparently according to some people here he's just headless tackler, bossed the game unlike Carrick who was still on holiday1.50 and 3.46
are you watching Wayne?
Saw quite a few 'rag' posts whilst lurking around, bit surprised they're a bit bitter with us.From SaintsWeb. FFS what can one season in 7th place and one season in 4th place do. Trasfer from Southampton to Manchester is sideways move now
The lad came up the ranks with them, why shouldn't he want to better himself. They all have Matt Le Tissier syndrome.
Might have something to do with the final game in the 04/05 season where we had nothing to play for and still beat them to send them down.
Some overreactions here. I like Schneiderlin too, but he is still at least level behind 34 year old Carrick. His first touch, ball control, short passing are nowhere near Carrick's level, if Carrick stays fit I highly doubt he'll start many games ahead of him.
He still time on his side though, unlike Carrick.
He still time on his side though, unlike Carrick.
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