Is this guy reliable or just another numpty?
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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Is this guy reliable or just another numpty?
Caicedo is a reliable player IMO, very good defensively and crisp passer.
I know what you meant
He seemed very Chelsea bound but I could see him changing his mind when we make serious efforts. He is a United fan and we could offer him CL.
-----------------Onana
Dalot--Varane--Martinez--Shaw
-------Casemiro--Caicedo--
--Antony----Bruno-----Rashford
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Dalot--Varane--Martinez--Shaw
-------Casemiro--Caicedo--
--Antony----Bruno-----Rashford
----------------Hojlund
Mount + Rabiot + Caicedo
Must mean a couple players are on the way out?
Most likely means one or more of those moves aren't happening.
That's good. Just push Dalot up alongside Antony and tuck Shaw in as the LCB whilst progressing the ball, which would allow Martinez to step into midfield.
---------------Onana
-----Varane--Martinez--Shaw
---------Casemiro--Caicedo--
--Dalot----Antony----Bruno-----Rashford
------------------Hojlund
See that looks good on paper, but I just don't think ETH wants to setup with a double pivot.
Caicedo adds physicality, energy and press resistance to our midfield. Really helps our play in the buildup phase, but if we're selling 2-3 midfielders we would need another creative #8/10 option, rather than Rabiot. Maybe someone like Eze.
We played with a double pivot a lot this season, with Casemiro-Eriksen or Casemiro-Fred. ETH has shown to be very flexible with formations. Caicedo is versatile enough to play both as a #6 and #8. He has got Fred's stamina/ball winning coupled with being good on the ball.
Ideally we add Mount or Kudus to the team as competition to Bruno and they both bring additional qualities to the team. It just depends on how much money we have to spend.
And to the people saying we aren't going to play with a double pivot. We have to play with either a midfielder double pivot or one that is compromised of a midfielder and fullback. You can't going into games with just a lone #6 because that only looks good on paper but would get destroyed in reality.
Having been priced out of a move for Mount, it seems exceedingly unlikely that we will instead turn our attentions to this much more expensive player.
United suddenly being 'in' for Chelsea's top midfield target this summer is more likely just part of the fun and games of the Mount negotiations.
United suddenly being 'in' for Chelsea's top midfield target this summer is more likely just part of the fun and games of the Mount negotiations.
Xavi Simons would be so perfect.
I'd really want a better attacking fullback than Dalot in that sort of set-up.
Could easily be Shaw up there in attack, with Dalot/AWB being the 3rd CB in buildup. That's happened a lot this season later on. I'm a fan of the Shaw-Rashford pipeline.
---------------Onana
-----Dalot--Varane--Martinez
---------Casemiro--Caicedo--
--Antony----Bruno----Rashford---Shaw
------------------Hojlund
Ideally we'd have Mason Mount in the right half space with Antony holding width. And with Mount's ability to deliver accurate crosses with his right foot, it'd make a strong combination on the right side of attack in possession as well as the right side being strong out of possession.
Caceido please
We need him more now with Rabiot off table
I'd be annoyed if Chelsea gets him. Always looks a good player whenever I watch Brighton. United fan, we can offer CL....can only hope Ten Hag gets over his hard on for Mount, who can try to convince to come to us next season anyway.
Think our name is just in there for pressure. It suits both Brighton and us for him to be linked to us as it hurts Chelsea in multiple directions.
Is Caceido really better than Fred?
This is not a tricky question, I have simply not watched Caceido enough to be able to judge myself.
This is not a tricky question, I have simply not watched Caceido enough to be able to judge myself.
I really like Fred’s attitude and application, and his ability to shut out a game for us like against City at home. However, Caicedo is probably a better right back than Fred a midfielder, let alone the like for like comparison in midfield. He has way more room to grow as well.
You see, I didn't even spell the name correctly. But I just copied the other post above mine!
Yes significantly
Definitely lack energetic option now Rabiot stays
I believe you. The thing is I read the same things about Fred when we first got him for 50 million....
If we're going to line up with one of our RBs dropping into RCB when we're in possession, it's going to be Wan-Bissaka who gets the nod.
Dalot only makes sense as a ball carrier in a back 4.
We need a former player agent on the case. Valencia?
Yeah need him to get on phone
The cost of Caicedo is irrelevant.
Mount has 1 year left so we have clearly set a limit on his signing as he'll be free next year.
That doesn't mean we couldn't afford more if we wanted to, hence us moving on to Caicedo, who is younger and has longer left on his current deal.
Is he good enough at spinning around for the double pivot role is my question?
We should’ve closed that deal when he was still playing in South America.
Complex ownership situation
Yeah I reckon so
Leave that to Antony who's an expert.
It most definitely is not irrelevant given, a) United's financial position, b) the club's dreadful track record at achieving sizable sales fees and, c) the necessity to purchase a reliable striker.
The Caicedo link just strikes me as obvious mischief-making from United, disgruntled by Chelsea's own shenanigans.
I was thinking about this the other day.
Rather than one man signing off on everything (Joel) they should appoint some sort of 'transfer committee' if they don't have one already but I think they have one sort of. For small deals (let's say under £5 million) they shouldn't need the approval of Joel but if they can get a majority of the transfer committee instead. I think it would be a better way to do it.
I meant Caicedo's ownership
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